New Potomac River Bridge

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has studied the history of Los Angeles freeways/highways should know that any money put towards adding lanes or any type of bridges isn't going to fix the traffic problems.
You buy a single family home in the suburbs and it’s your problem.

More lanes will allow more people to cross the bridge.

You just repeated what the top PP said. More lanes will allow more people to sit in traffic.

It will increase capacity. If the worst case scenario is that traffic will move just as slow, at least more people can move slowly.

"Hey, let's spend billions of dollars to create bigger traffic jams!"

No. Let’s spend billions to allow more people to get to where they need to go like jobs that facilitate economic activity.

If you REALLY wanted that result, then you would support the expansion for mass transit. Spending on single occupancy cars is a fools errand.

Cars and transit are not mutually exclusive. Need more capacity for cars and if there is a case for adding transit they can do that too. The current plan is to provide buses priority access to the HOT lanes, which makes a lot of sense.

Why do we need more capacity for cars? There isn't already enough congestion?

Congestion just means that more people want to use something than there is capacity. Even if adding more lanes had zero impact on congestion it would mean that more people could use the bridge. However, the congestion argument is moot because HOT lanes are tolled at a variable rate to ensure that they maintain minimum speeds. They put an economic price on congestion.

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland needs to do 3 things.

1. Rebuild and expand the American Legion Bridge.
2. Expand Point of Rocks
3. Build a third bridge that will connect to Dulles area.

A forth thing that MD needs is for the congressional delegation to appropriate funds for NPS to expand Clara Barton Parkway to add a third reversible lane and to have upper Beach Drive reopened.

And, while they’re at it, they can build a Time Machine that sends you back to the 1950s where you apparently belong.

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Anonymous wrote:Do this and even MORE jobs will go to Nva. Even MORE job growth for Nva. Moco as a permanent bedroom community for Tysons. Also, the basic closure of Thurgood Marshall Airport (particularly as an international airport). This will never happen. This is the true failure of Moco leaders past Duncan to create any substantive job growth besides MCPS and county jobs.

BWI has more passengers than DCA or IAD. Why would it close? It's the busiest airport in the region!

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Anonymous wrote:I would be up for a new bridge if it were for bikes, peds and light rail or metro. We don't need another bridge for cars.

Potomac isn't that deep. Get some stilts and you can cross at Bles Park.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t trr we ll anyone about Chain Bridge.

I don't think there's a problem with current connections between VA and DC. The issue is between VA and MD and MD's boneheaded refusal to improve connections to VA at its own economic detriment.

How would it benefit Maryland to spend billions of dollars to build a highway and bridge to make it easier for Marylanders to drive to jobs in Virginia?

It would also make it easier for people in Virginia to drive to jobs in Maryland.
I know people who worked in Virginia, lived in Montgomery County. Once their kids graduated, they moved, as it was literally faster to take a bike and a rowboat across the Potomac, rather than drive 10 miles east to 495 in Maryland and west from 495 in Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland needs to do 3 things.

1. Rebuild and expand the American Legion Bridge.
2. Expand Point of Rocks
3. Build a third bridge that will connect to Dulles area.

A forth thing that MD needs is for the congressional delegation to appropriate funds for NPS to expand Clara Barton Parkway to add a third reversible lane and to have upper Beach Drive reopened.

And, while they’re at it, they can build a Time Machine that sends you back to the 1950s where you apparently belong.

That may be true but it’s better to want to live in the 1950s than the 1850s which is apparently the era that you would like to get back to.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t trr we ll anyone about Chain Bridge.

I don't think there's a problem with current connections between VA and DC. The issue is between VA and MD and MD's boneheaded refusal to improve connections to VA at its own economic detriment.

How would it benefit Maryland to spend billions of dollars to build a highway and bridge to make it easier for Marylanders to drive to jobs in Virginia?

It would also make it easier for people in Virginia to drive to jobs in Maryland.
I know people who worked in Virginia, lived in Montgomery County. Once their kids graduated, they moved, as it was literally faster to take a bike and a rowboat across the Potomac, rather than drive 10 miles east to 495 in Maryland and west from 495 in Virginia.

How is it socially beneficial for people to live in another state from where they work? Those who work in Tyson’s should live near Tyson’s. Those who work in MoCo should live there. Building multi-billion dollar infrastructure to accommodate a strange desire among some people to commute dozens of miles every day is the very worst kind of welfare.

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland needs to do 3 things.

1. Rebuild and expand the American Legion Bridge.
2. Expand Point of Rocks
3. Build a third bridge that will connect to Dulles area.

A forth thing that MD needs is for the congressional delegation to appropriate funds for NPS to expand Clara Barton Parkway to add a third reversible lane and to have upper Beach Drive reopened.

And, while they’re at it, they can build a Time Machine that sends you back to the 1950s where you apparently belong.

That may be true but it’s better to want to live in the 1950s than the 1850s which is apparently the era that you would like to get back to.

The world is going to be a hell of a lot less livable in 2050 than it was in 1850 thanks to those who refuse to change their behavior despite all the damage done to the planet and all those who inhabit it.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t trr we ll anyone about Chain Bridge.

I don't think there's a problem with current connections between VA and DC. The issue is between VA and MD and MD's boneheaded refusal to improve connections to VA at its own economic detriment.

How would it benefit Maryland to spend billions of dollars to build a highway and bridge to make it easier for Marylanders to drive to jobs in Virginia?

It would also make it easier for people in Virginia to drive to jobs in Maryland.
I know people who worked in Virginia, lived in Montgomery County. Once their kids graduated, they moved, as it was literally faster to take a bike and a rowboat across the Potomac, rather than drive 10 miles east to 495 in Maryland and west from 495 in Virginia.

How is it socially beneficial for people to live in another state from where they work? Those who work in Tyson’s should live near Tyson’s. Those who work in MoCo should live there. Building multi-billion dollar infrastructure to accommodate a strange desire among some people to commute dozens of miles every day is the very worst kind of welfare.

Why stop at objecting to infrastructure for commuting a couple miles? Let’s just force everyone to live only in walking distance to their jobs, aka a “company town”. It’s a tried a true approach that’s totally economically efficient and will ensure they workers can maximize their wages instead of being held captive to employers for their basic welfare.

I swear you people not only want to live in the past, you also want all of us to join you there in the worst possible past imaginable. Living in 19th century company towns paid by script. Living like 16th century peasants and serfs in a “walkable”, walled village. It’s all so hilariously nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be up for a new bridge if it were for bikes, peds and light rail or metro. We don't need another bridge for cars.

+1,000,000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t trr we ll anyone about Chain Bridge.

I don't think there's a problem with current connections between VA and DC. The issue is between VA and MD and MD's boneheaded refusal to improve connections to VA at its own economic detriment.

How would it benefit Maryland to spend billions of dollars to build a highway and bridge to make it easier for Marylanders to drive to jobs in Virginia?

Exactly. Invest in jobs so Marylanders don’t have to make the commute.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t trr we ll anyone about Chain Bridge.

I don't think there's a problem with current connections between VA and DC. The issue is between VA and MD and MD's boneheaded refusal to improve connections to VA at its own economic detriment.

How would it benefit Maryland to spend billions of dollars to build a highway and bridge to make it easier for Marylanders to drive to jobs in Virginia?

It would also make it easier for people in Virginia to drive to jobs in Maryland.
I know people who worked in Virginia, lived in Montgomery County. Once their kids graduated, they moved, as it was literally faster to take a bike and a rowboat across the Potomac, rather than drive 10 miles east to 495 in Maryland and west from 495 in Virginia.

How is it socially beneficial for people to live in another state from where they work? Those who work in Tyson’s should live near Tyson’s. Those who work in MoCo should live there. Building multi-billion dollar infrastructure to accommodate a strange desire among some people to commute dozens of miles every day is the very worst kind of welfare.

Why stop at objecting to infrastructure for commuting a couple miles? Let’s just force everyone to live only in walking distance to their jobs, aka a “company town”. It’s a tried a true approach that’s totally economically efficient and will ensure they workers can maximize their wages instead of being held captive to employers for their basic welfare.

I swear you people not only want to live in the past, you also want all of us to join you there in the worst possible past imaginable. Living in 19th century company towns paid by script. Living like 16th century peasants and serfs in a “walkable”, walled village. It’s all so hilariously nuts.

How about y’all stop voting for policies that hamstring businesses that provide jobs and then complain when you can’t get over a bridge without traffic to commute to your jobs? Take the metro for God’s sake! Yes, it’s expensive and inconvenient - maybe that’s what Marylanders need to endure to understand how their vote affects them.

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They should build a tunnel under the Potomac River from Maryland to DC that way it avoids the agriculture preserve and links up with route 28 in Virginia. You could build the outer beltway that way

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t trr we ll anyone about Chain Bridge.

I don't think there's a problem with current connections between VA and DC. The issue is between VA and MD and MD's boneheaded refusal to improve connections to VA at its own economic detriment.

How would it benefit Maryland to spend billions of dollars to build a highway and bridge to make it easier for Marylanders to drive to jobs in Virginia?

Exactly. Invest in jobs so Marylanders don’t have to make the commute.

If you invest in infrastructure it will convince businesses to locate in MD and create jobs. What business in their right mind would locate somewhere that would be difficult for their clients and employees to access?

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Anonymous wrote:Do this and even MORE jobs will go to Nva. Even MORE job growth for Nva. Moco as a permanent bedroom community for Tysons. Also, the basic closure of Thurgood Marshall Airport (particularly as an international airport). This will never happen. This is the true failure of Moco leaders past Duncan to create any substantive job growth besides MCPS and county jobs.

BWI has more passengers than DCA or IAD. Why would it close? It's the busiest airport in the region!

BWI won’t close but it’s a different type of airport than DCA and IAD. It principally caters to low cost carriers and leisure travelers on a budget.