John Stewart and Dave Chapelle need to come together for a comedy/open discussion SPECIAL!

[Anonymous]

I would love this, OP!

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The problem is that the tropes get repeated with none of the nuance and intelligent dismantling that the comedian intended.

But most comedy plays with tropes, and good comics construct thematic, purposeful sets so you get the point.

And good comics go after a rainbow of people using tropes, so no group is singled out. DC goes after everybody.

We can’t put certain groups “off limits.” Not when it comes to comedy.

Context matters. Tropes in comedy are not the same as tropes in the workplace or on mainstream media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The problem is that the tropes get repeated with none of the nuance and intelligent dismantling that the comedian intended.

But most comedy plays with tropes, and good comics construct thematic, purposeful sets so you get the point.

And good comics go after a rainbow of people using tropes, so no group is singled out. DC goes after everybody.

We can’t put certain groups “off limits.” Not when it comes to comedy.

Context matters. Tropes in comedy are not the same as tropes in the workplace or on mainstream media.

This. The fact that many people misunderstand this is not a reason to ban comedians from discussing certain topics.

Recall the episode of The Office where they have to bring in a sensitivity instructor because Michael has tried to do a bit from a Chris Rock standup routine that (1) was not office appropriate, and (2) should never be delivered by a white person. The fact that someone like Michael can misunderstand and misapply the comedy in that case is not a reason to ban Chris Rock from talking about race in his comedy, or playing with stereotypes of black people in his act. It’s a reason to condemn Michael and explain to him and others present why what he said was offensive in an office context where he is a white authority figure.

That’s JS’s point— you don’t gain anything by just telling comedians not to talk about certain topics. In a weirdly roundabout way, the Chris Rock routine does ultimately educate people in that fictional office on racism. And then the comedic episode of the office likely educated others.

Does that mean there won’t be an idiot who decides to quote Michael Scott quoting Chris Rock at his office holiday party? No. There are always idiots. But we can’t use them to justify censorship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would love this, OP!

^I hadn’t watched the Jon Stewart clip when I first replied (in the middle of the night).

I freaking adore Jon Stewart!! I am so happy he gets the nuance and brilliance of comedy, and I’m eternally grateful he spoke out on it. I hope people watch this clip and learn a little bit.

So, yeah, Stewart and Chapelle are absolutely in agreement on the topic, and I think an open discussion could be helpful.

I have to say that I love that they are good friends. ❤️

[Black PP]

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Anonymous wrote:I saw Chappelles monologue. Nothing he said was even offensive. I’m sick and tired of them going after comedians for doing…comedy.

Miss the old days of “if you don’t like it, change the channel.”

Chappelle is friends with many legacy Jewish comedians over the decades so to say he’s someone anti-Semitic based off one snl monologue that no one was offended by but media pundits.

Yes. He’s really good friends with JS. He gave a beautiful heart warming speech to him at the Mark Twain awards over the summer at the Kennedy Center.

Some of my best friends are black. I mean, Jewish.

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Anonymous wrote:How about if we dive deep into the ideas that racists have against POC? If it worth it to hear them out and really understand what they have to say about POC, things that we are MISSING in our negative responses to them? The things they get right? Yes, let's go there. And let's do it under the mask of comedy. Let's "go there" with the racists of the world. Shall we?

Of course not. Go to hell, OP.

Ummm… have you ever seen other Chappelle bits?

That's not the one that's relevant right now, is it.