Are all Big 3 alumni this insufferable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, I am genuinely stunned by the backlash the OP's posted piece has received. I have a completely opposing view of it. And let me clarify that I VERYYYYYY much dislike NCS, due to the culture. I would not even consider applying for my straight A, high SSAT, URM (uniquely diverse) daughter. Never! With that out of the way...

I fully understood the points being conveyed by the author. The young lady is simply at a crossroads of identity exploration, as many are at that age during freshman year of college. It does not strike me as whining, but rather seeking to carve her own path in life, and one that is valid and appreciated as her own instead of a mere replication of her preceding parents (+other family members). Being in that situation at any university would be difficult, and is only amplified at any Ivy. As much as I detest NCS, and the widely-reported negative experience of URM girls there (in large part, on account of girls like the author), I still appreciate her human experience and the challenges of maturation into adulthood. This seems to be my unpopular opinion (shrugs). Compassion for all human struggles, despite SES/privilege, goes a long way and can extend to struggles starkly different from our own. My immigrant parents would be her parents' literary foil, yet I cannot/wouldn't condemn her for struggling to establish herself as an individual. Just my thoughts.

So just because you are an immigrant, oh wait, no. You’re not. Your daughter is what, third gen? As an actual immigrant, let me tell you, nobody thinks your whole you can’t say anything against your weird position because you’re a URM is valid or meaningful. This is what word salad refers to. What are your actual complaints and perspectives? Your whole post is a weird combination of bashing and I’m better than you with my compassion and amazingly successful child. Ok. Cool lady.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that the negative reaction here is way overblown. The essay does give me a touch of the ick, but so do about half the posts on this forum. It really just reads like an earnest journal entry that probably should have stayed in the journal.

Clearly these posters don’t realize a world that they are clearly really not part of. You have to be aware to realize what she’s talking about and I think many are not aware. There is “wealthy” and then there is wealthy combined with elite clubs, summering at the same places, knowing all of the same people at all travel destinations. It can be polarizing even to “wealthy” people. That is what she is talking about. It’s a culture And you can be “rich” technically and still come in to this kind of Uber wealth world and realize wow it’s on a whole different level than you could’ve ever imagined. Clearly you people trashing her are not part of that world so you don’t even know what you’re missing out on.

I’m not part of that world but went to boarding school, so I have an idea of what she’s talking about. The criticism is that her piece reads as “woe is me, it’s so hard to be privileged,” which is incredibly tone deaf. And you sound like you could be your mom with your last line there. The whole point of the criticism is that she is incredibly privileged and has the life that others can only dream of and yet still finds a way to turn that into some sort of hardship.

[Anonymous]

^this is referring to her essay on how hard it is to be a Dartmouth legacy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, I am genuinely stunned by the backlash the OP's posted piece has received. I have a completely opposing view of it. And let me clarify that I VERYYYYYY much dislike NCS, due to the culture. I would not even consider applying for my straight A, high SSAT, URM (uniquely diverse) daughter. Never! With that out of the way...

I fully understood the points being conveyed by the author. The young lady is simply at a crossroads of identity exploration, as many are at that age during freshman year of college. It does not strike me as whining, but rather seeking to carve her own path in life, and one that is valid and appreciated as her own instead of a mere replication of her preceding parents (+other family members). Being in that situation at any university would be difficult, and is only amplified at any Ivy. As much as I detest NCS, and the widely-reported negative experience of URM girls there (in large part, on account of girls like the author), I still appreciate her human experience and the challenges of maturation into adulthood. This seems to be my unpopular opinion (shrugs). Compassion for all human struggles, despite SES/privilege, goes a long way and can extend to struggles starkly different from our own. My immigrant parents would be her parents' literary foil, yet I cannot/wouldn't condemn her for struggling to establish herself as an individual. Just my thoughts.

You sound weirdly obsessed with NCS and weirdly braggy. My daughter is also OMG a URM and I can’t imagine being this obnoxious. Get over yourself.

Do you have a condition/disorder that hinders reading comprehension?? Perhaps that is why your response is so severely disconnected from my post. What are you talking about? It is befuddling. I simply clarified that I do not have an angle that would therefore 'justify' my compassion towards the author. I am being objective. What segment of my post is bragging - indicating that my daughter would be a worthy candidate? And, having an awareness of the school's widely-reported toxicity qualifies as being "weirdly obsessed"? Opting out of application to avoid documented toxicity makes me "obnoxious"?

You sound triggered, rabid, and illogical.

[Anonymous]

If you don’t want to be a legacy, it’s very simple, you don’t apply. I went to an elite private school too and many kids didn’t want to go to their dad’s school bc of legacy. And the ones that did anyway did it because it was the best school they got into. The ones who were principled just didn’t apply (eg friend whose father and brother went to Princeton. She just didn’t apply).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just read her other essay.

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2022/10/cradle-to-cap-and-gown-the-prep-school-to-ivy-pipeline

"After attending public school through the eighth grade, I switched to an all-girls private school in Washington, D.C. Going from a class of 500 to a class of 74 was a shock, but the true jolt was adapting to the pure wealth and privilege surrounding me. I consider my family to be very well off, but my peers made me feel like a pauper. Although there are a fair number of students on financial aid at exclusive high schools, the majority of the student body comes from rich, well-connected families."

Absurd. Oblivious and absurd.

Sounds true to me. And being a 9th grader you can see things as they are. An elementary school student might not.

[Anonymous]

Reminds me of Brett Kavanaugh

[Anonymous]

Hope she doesn’t rope in our awesome Dartmouth neighbor kid who was first in his class at a big W public school (gasp).

[Anonymous]

You are the mean one OP taking pleasure in the silly thoughts of a young college student. She knows and now the whole world knows she would not be at Dartmouth w/o her family connections. She hung herself with her own words. That should be punishment enough. She will cringe in a year when she re-reads the article.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, I am genuinely stunned by the backlash the OP's posted piece has received. I have a completely opposing view of it. And let me clarify that I VERYYYYYY much dislike NCS, due to the culture. I would not even consider applying for my straight A, high SSAT, URM (uniquely diverse) daughter. Never! With that out of the way...

I fully understood the points being conveyed by the author. The young lady is simply at a crossroads of identity exploration, as many are at that age during freshman year of college. It does not strike me as whining, but rather seeking to carve her own path in life, and one that is valid and appreciated as her own instead of a mere replication of her preceding parents (+other family members). Being in that situation at any university would be difficult, and is only amplified at any Ivy. As much as I detest NCS, and the widely-reported negative experience of URM girls there (in large part, on account of girls like the author), I still appreciate her human experience and the challenges of maturation into adulthood. This seems to be my unpopular opinion (shrugs). Compassion for all human struggles, despite SES/privilege, goes a long way and can extend to struggles starkly different from our own. My immigrant parents would be her parents' literary foil, yet I cannot/wouldn't condemn her for struggling to establish herself as an individual. Just my thoughts.

You sound weirdly obsessed with NCS and weirdly braggy. My daughter is also OMG a URM and I can’t imagine being this obnoxious. Get over yourself.

Do you have a condition/disorder that hinders reading comprehension?? Perhaps that is why your response is so severely disconnected from my post. What are you talking about? It is befuddling. I simply clarified that I do not have an angle that would therefore 'justify' my compassion towards the author. I am being objective. What segment of my post is bragging - indicating that my daughter would be a worthy candidate? And, having an awareness of the school's widely-reported toxicity qualifies as being "weirdly obsessed"? Opting out of application to avoid documented toxicity makes me "obnoxious"?

You sound triggered, rabid, and illogical.

Ok. That’s a lot of wordy justification. So objective, just knee jerk detesting something. Much logic. Very intimidating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just read her other essay.

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2022/10/cradle-to-cap-and-gown-the-prep-school-to-ivy-pipeline

"After attending public school through the eighth grade, I switched to an all-girls private school in Washington, D.C. Going from a class of 500 to a class of 74 was a shock, but the true jolt was adapting to the pure wealth and privilege surrounding me. I consider my family to be very well off, but my peers made me feel like a pauper. Although there are a fair number of students on financial aid at exclusive high schools, the majority of the student body comes from rich, well-connected families."

Absurd. Oblivious and absurd.

How is that statement absurd?

paired with her whine about being a legacy at Dartmouth, she is part of that privileged class

Maybe she should have gone to BU or NYU and her Wash DC rich kid myopia could be put in check by Chinese, Greek, or Italian kids of wealth and their off campus penthouses, 911s, standing tables at clubs and zero interest in homework or job seeking.

Someone will always be faster or richer or whatever than you. Get over it. All of you.

[Anonymous]

And the Mideast kids.

Oh my lord the stories

Ran out of gas, left my car in the side of the road, limped back, the staff can deal with it.

[Anonymous]

* limo’d back

Lol

[Anonymous]

Neat wedding ever: royalty in Pakistan. Whole gsb class

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most pompous people I've ever met in my career went to Dartmouth. The legacy of d-baggery continues.

Ivies are a bunch of anti-American studies activists now. Wish they’d defund and sell off their endowments already. They don’t deserve them.