In other news…Canada bans sale of new guns

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Anonymous wrote:Except so many of our mass shootings the purchases were legal, or they had someone buy them legally. Like the I Uvalde shooter who waited until his 18th birthday.

Heron is illegal. Cocaine is illegal. Human trafficking is illegal. Yet, they all proliferate underground.

If new firearm purchases were outlawed, they would simply move underground as well. People who wanted a gun could find one.

Reducing gun violence involves looking at how we glorify gun violence in our nation, and how a small group of people make billions of dollars each year by marketing movies, games, and other media products that identify killing people with guns as "cool."

Making it harder to buy guns legally would reduce gun violence.

You think the kid in sandy hook would’ve gone to nyc to buy an AR on the street?!

Also, what about all of the suicide????????? That is so common in our country.And it has been proven that when access to lethal means is reduced, suicides are reduced.

It may sound counter intuitive, but it is absolutely known. Many suicides are impulsive.

Lots of different methods of suicide exist.

“In 2020, firearms were the most common method used in suicide deaths in the United States, accounting for over half of all suicide deaths (24,292).”

Source: https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/suicide

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Anonymous wrote:The market will simply go underground. Weapons will still be sold and transferred and, now, even harder to track.

Then explain Australia.

Australia has the strongest border security in the world. We have the weakest.

Australia also has really low crime and a really low tolerance for crime. Police have authority to stop and search anyone, for example. They don’t have cashless bail that lets criminals out back onto the street immediately once they’ve been processed. Very low tolerance for drugs and high level of control over supply of drugs due to extremely strong border protections. People aren’t just walking over their borders carrying backpacks of drugs or firearms.

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By the way, as much as we think of Canada as being “like us” in culture and as much as they loudly espouse all sorts of liberal policies to criticize the right in this country, Canada is extremely conservative when it comes to border control. They’re absolutely nothing like the US and actually a lot like Australia in that regard. I honestly don’t know how they get away with speaking the way they do about us opening our borders to anyone who wants to walk over when there’s no way in hell they would accept those people themselves. They won’t even let Americans with no criminal record over the border if they have medical problems or can’t tell a convincing story of what they’re planning to do in Canada. So of course they have a much lower crime rate and can control the flow and supply of weapons.

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Anonymous wrote:The market will simply go underground. Weapons will still be sold and transferred and, now, even harder to track.

Then explain Australia.

Australia has the strongest border security in the world. We have the weakest.

Australia also has really low crime and a really low tolerance for crime. Police have authority to stop and search anyone, for example. They don’t have cashless bail that lets criminals out back onto the street immediately once they’ve been processed. Very low tolerance for drugs and high level of control over supply of drugs due to extremely strong border protections. People aren’t just walking over their borders carrying backpacks of drugs or firearms.

Not unfair points in general, but keep in mind that Australia is an island, and a pretty isolated one at that. If we were surrounded by water on all sides, we'd have less of a problem with border jumpers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The market will simply go underground. Weapons will still be sold and transferred and, now, even harder to track.

Then explain Australia.

Australia has the strongest border security in the world. We have the weakest.

Australia also has really low crime and a really low tolerance for crime. Police have authority to stop and search anyone, for example. They don’t have cashless bail that lets criminals out back onto the street immediately once they’ve been processed. Very low tolerance for drugs and high level of control over supply of drugs due to extremely strong border protections. People aren’t just walking over their borders carrying backpacks of drugs or firearms.

Not unfair points in general, but keep in mind that Australia is an island, and a pretty isolated one at that. If we were surrounded by water on all sides, we'd have less of a problem with border jumpers.

Try telling that to Spain, Italy, and Greece--they get plenty of migrants arriving in boats even though they have land borders.