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Anonymous wrote:My kid is 265 and steadily 98/99. Got into CES and TPMS, so don't be discouraged by viewing the mean as a bar. You don't know how high or low the range strays.

Did he get into Blair? Not sure how this is relevant if not.

I'm trying to share my positive non-panic attitude, I guess.

I’m not panicking at all. That my kids score is the mean of those admitted is great and very encouraging! He’s steadily 99th percentile. Just not one of the kids with 300+ scores. I know he’d do very well in the program but we’ll see.

300 and 270 are both 99% for the fall of 8th, and they use the percentile since the test wasn't designed to differentiate between fractions of a percent.

That’s not what they said on Monday night.

It sure was.

Were you actually there? What he said was that he didn’t remember the exact mean MAP score but that parents could email him to find it out. He did not say anything even remotely like the actual score doesn’t master anyway because we look at percentiles only.

It's been discussed here openly for years that percentiles are used since comparing the RAW scores is meaningless. If you'd asked them about this, I'm sure they would've told you as much.6

What is discussed on DCUM often doesn’t have any bearing on what fact is. Just because someone repeats it regularly here doesn’t mean it’s true.

^^ exactly what you're saying has no bearing on the reality that NWEA didn't design this test to differentiate between the 99.1 and 99.99999% and MCPS knows this

In that case why are they sharing the mean scores for last years entrance? BECAUSE they use them!

Because some parent asked for it. They never claimed it was meaningful.

I see you ignored the post about MAP measuring growth.

I guess it does, but so what. The growth between 99.1% and 99.9% is 0.8%. It mostly just shows that some were engaged in significant outside enrichment.

Yes that sounds about right.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is 265 and steadily 98/99. Got into CES and TPMS, so don't be discouraged by viewing the mean as a bar. You don't know how high or low the range strays.

Did he get into Blair? Not sure how this is relevant if not.

I'm trying to share my positive non-panic attitude, I guess.

I’m not panicking at all. That my kids score is the mean of those admitted is great and very encouraging! He’s steadily 99th percentile. Just not one of the kids with 300+ scores. I know he’d do very well in the program but we’ll see.

300 and 270 are both 99% for the fall of 8th, and they use the percentile since the test wasn't designed to differentiate between fractions of a percent.

That’s not what they said on Monday night.

It sure was.

Were you actually there? What he said was that he didn’t remember the exact mean MAP score but that parents could email him to find it out. He did not say anything even remotely like the actual score doesn’t master anyway because we look at percentiles only.

It's been discussed here openly for years that percentiles are used since comparing the RAW scores is meaningless. If you'd asked them about this, I'm sure they would've told you as much.6

What is discussed on DCUM often doesn’t have any bearing on what fact is. Just because someone repeats it regularly here doesn’t mean it’s true.

^^ exactly what you're saying has no bearing on the reality that NWEA didn't design this test to differentiate between the 99.1 and 99.99999% and MCPS knows this

Well, the higher raw score shows significantly more outside enrichment and allows students (from wealthier families) the edge they deserve from all that hard work!

I don't know why you're attacking MCPS or yourself by implying "wealthier families" are doing what MCPS, or you as a parent, can't?

I'm not attacking anybody. I'm fine with people being able to buy their way into these programs. That's how it's always been.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is 265 and steadily 98/99. Got into CES and TPMS, so don't be discouraged by viewing the mean as a bar. You don't know how high or low the range strays.

Did he get into Blair? Not sure how this is relevant if not.

I'm trying to share my positive non-panic attitude, I guess.

I’m not panicking at all. That my kids score is the mean of those admitted is great and very encouraging! He’s steadily 99th percentile. Just not one of the kids with 300+ scores. I know he’d do very well in the program but we’ll see.

300 and 270 are both 99% for the fall of 8th, and they use the percentile since the test wasn't designed to differentiate between fractions of a percent.

That’s not what they said on Monday night.

It sure was.

Were you actually there? What he said was that he didn’t remember the exact mean MAP score but that parents could email him to find it out. He did not say anything even remotely like the actual score doesn’t master anyway because we look at percentiles only.

It's been discussed here openly for years that percentiles are used since comparing the RAW scores is meaningless. If you'd asked them about this, I'm sure they would've told you as much.6

What is discussed on DCUM often doesn’t have any bearing on what fact is. Just because someone repeats it regularly here doesn’t mean it’s true.

^^ exactly what you're saying has no bearing on the reality that NWEA didn't design this test to differentiate between the 99.1 and 99.99999% and MCPS knows this

Well, the higher raw score shows significantly more outside enrichment and allows students (from wealthier families) the edge they deserve from all that hard work!

I don't know why you're attacking MCPS or yourself by implying "wealthier families" are doing what MCPS, or you as a parent, can't?

I'm not attacking anybody. I'm fine with people being able to buy their way into these programs. That's how it's always been.

You sound unstable, overly focused on money and anti-Asian. You keep repeatedly posting about "wealth" on these magnet threads.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have an update on this question?

Exactly. What is the score please from someone who followed up?

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have an update on this question?

286

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286

293

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293?????is this cutoff score?

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have an update on this question?

286

293

It really depends on the applicant pool year to year, doesn't it? Even the magnet folks won't know until they see the applicant pool for the current year.

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Anonymous wrote:293?????is this cutoff score?

no way this is the cutoff. maybe mean MAP-M? I will still think it's way too high.

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Anonymous wrote:293?????is this cutoff score?

There is no cutoff score. I posted the average 286. Don’t know where 293 comes from.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have an update on this question?

286

293

It really depends on the applicant pool year to year, doesn't it? Even the magnet folks won't know until they see the applicant pool for the current year.

The median score a few years ago was 275 based on information published by the county.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is 265 and steadily 98/99. Got into CES and TPMS, so don't be discouraged by viewing the mean as a bar. You don't know how high or low the range strays.

Did he get into Blair? Not sure how this is relevant if not.

I'm trying to share my positive non-panic attitude, I guess.

I’m not panicking at all. That my kids score is the mean of those admitted is great and very encouraging! He’s steadily 99th percentile. Just not one of the kids with 300+ scores. I know he’d do very well in the program but we’ll see.

300 and 270 are both 99% for the fall of 8th, and they use the percentile since the test wasn't designed to differentiate between fractions of a percent.

That’s not what they said on Monday night.

It sure was.

Were you actually there? What he said was that he didn’t remember the exact mean MAP score but that parents could email him to find it out. He did not say anything even remotely like the actual score doesn’t master anyway because we look at percentiles only.

It's been discussed here openly for years that percentiles are used since comparing the RAW scores is meaningless. If you'd asked them about this, I'm sure they would've told you as much.6

What is discussed on DCUM often doesn’t have any bearing on what fact is. Just because someone repeats it regularly here doesn’t mean it’s true.

^^ exactly what you're saying has no bearing on the reality that NWEA didn't design this test to differentiate between the 99.1 and 99.99999% and MCPS knows this

Well, the higher raw score shows significantly more outside enrichment and allows students (from wealthier families) the edge they deserve from all that hard work!

I don't know why you're attacking MCPS or yourself by implying "wealthier families" are doing what MCPS, or you as a parent, can't?

I'm not attacking anybody. I'm fine with people being able to buy their way into these programs. That's how it's always been.

You sound unstable, overly focused on money and anti-Asian. You keep repeatedly posting about "wealth" on these magnet threads.

I'm on your side, and love being able to buy my kids way into these programs!

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Anonymous wrote:293?????is this cutoff score?

There is no cutoff score. I posted the average 286. Don’t know where 293 comes from.

From someone trying to dissuade others from applying.

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Anonymous wrote:293?????is this cutoff score?

There is no cutoff score. I posted the average 286. Don’t know where 293 comes from.

I would be surprised if there's a hard cutoff. Don't they locally norm these things?

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Anonymous wrote:293?????is this cutoff score?

There is no cutoff score. I posted the average 286. Don’t know where 293 comes from.

I would be surprised if there's a hard cutoff. Don't they locally norm these things?

If they accept all members of the MAP-M 300 Club, how many spots are left for the mere mortals?