Is Johns Hopkins still desirable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys are idiots. It’s also top ranked in public policy, economics, etc. It’s hospital and medical research are world renowned, but it’s global policy program is renowned world wide too.

What ranking are you using? The public affairs school is ranked 35, same as UMD. Its Economics program is ranked 22, same as UMD.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-public-affairs-schools/public-affairs-rankings?_sort=rank-asc
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/economics-rankings?_sort=rank-asc

It's ranked 4 for Global Policy and Administration Programs, but that is for the graduate school SAIS which is based in DC, 1 hour away during off-peak hours by car. SAIS professors live in DC so the undergrads in Baltimore get little to no benefit from the graduate school.

Actually some SAIS professors teach at the undergrad campus and the 5 year ba/ma program is popular. Hopkins also has campuses in Bologna and Beijing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a great school, but in a terrible location. DC took a tour and crossed it off the list based on surrounding area

Yale, Columbia, and Chicago have done just fine with their locations in the not-so-distant past. Hopefully that portion of Baltimore will continue to improve.

Hopkins also has the benefit of the name recognition that its med school and hospital provide. It was a popular school for kids in Mountain View and Palo Alto, CA to look at when I was out there.

Columbia's immediate surroundings are less than ideal but it's based on NYC, a global city. Manhattan is extremely safe for such a large city by American standards.

Chicago's immediate surroundings are pretty bad but again it's based in the 3rd largest American city. It's a matter of knowing which neighborhoods of a the city to avoid.

Baltimore is the 30th largest city in the US, smaller than Memphis, Tennessee and Portland, Oregon. The entire city is dangerous and rundown with very few, small pockets of relative safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys are idiots. It’s also top ranked in public policy, economics, etc. It’s hospital and medical research are world renowned, but it’s global policy program is renowned world wide too.

What ranking are you using? The public affairs school is ranked 35, same as UMD. Its Economics program is ranked 22, same as UMD.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-public-affairs-schools/public-affairs-rankings?_sort=rank-asc
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/economics-rankings?_sort=rank-asc

It's ranked 4 for Global Policy and Administration Programs, but that is for the graduate school SAIS which is based in DC, 1 hour away during off-peak hours by car. SAIS professors live in DC so the undergrads in Baltimore get little to no benefit from the graduate school.

Actually some SAIS professors teach at the undergrad campus and the 5 year ba/ma program is popular. Hopkins also has campuses in Bologna and Beijing.

The few that do will be the ones just starting out, not the world-renowned ones that gets Hopkins it's top 4 ranking.

I'm sure the BA/MA program is great but not particularly advantageous over Georgetown or Columbia, which both have 5-year BA/MA programs and are located in much better cities for anything international policy-related as an undergrad.

Spending 4 years in a school you do not want to go to just so you can get into the 1-year masters programs seems to be overkill, especially when that student could probably get into a top masters elsewhere in Harvard, Columbia or Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins is obviously a very good school, but it's particularly renowned for MD. I'm sure there's some advantages that pre-meds have as well due to having two major medical research universities located in the city, in both research and shadowing opportunities.

Beyond pre-med, it's not particularly known for anything else academically or career-wise. It does not have a big tech/engineering culture and isn't a hotspot for tech startups, incubators or recruiting into top tech firms. It doesn't have the network or history of recruitment into Wall Street finance firms and Big 3 consulting firms and its MBA is extremely mediocre. It's not particularly renowned for political activism although that's a positive. It doesn't have a law school although that's probably another positive. The last two points probably lead to the lack of Hopkins alumni in Congress.

A lot of the high ranking that Hopkins gets is due to programs that undergrad students get zero access to because it's in a different city altogether and requires car + commute time to access. The federal government's Applied Physics Lab is run by Hopkins and brings in the biggest federal research dollars along with the medical school, but it's in Laurel - a 30 minute drive minimum during non-commute hours. SAIS is Hopkin's graduate school for international relations, is among the best along with Georgetown's and Harvard's, but it's based in DC - an hour drive minimum during non-commute hours. With the APL, perhaps Hopkins undergrads get some benefit with the few professors that teach in both locations, but the greatest benefit of top professors is working directly in their research labs. With SAIS, the top professors all live in DC and do not professors care much about teaching undergrads in a city an hour away.

The campus is mediocre with a very cramped quad. The architecture is mediocre.

The city is the worst out of all the top universities. Not because it's boring, but because it's outright dangerous and rundown. There's relatively safe development near the harbor, but it is a small area and everywhere else is terrible. What could be amazing night-outs turn out to be outright dangerous.

The lack of Division 1 sports and terrible Greek Life is an advantage as far as I'm concerned. Baltimore has major sports teams with the Orioles and the Ravens. Greeks are about 30% of the population which is the threshold where they dominate the campus culture, which is unfortunate.

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So much of this is flat out wrong, it’s difficult to know where to start. There are three academic quads at Hopkins and one residential quad so not sure which of those you claim is cramped but I guess is you just aren’t very familiar with the campus at all, or the city for that matter of you think “one area” is safe.

Hopkins has Division 1 men and women’s lacrosse. The other sports are D3 but in recent years, the football team has won 40 consecutive games and has ibeen ranked in the top 20 in d3 on several occasions, the baseball team is often ranked in the T25, and the swimming and track teams always do well in the NCAA championship meets.

You claim that it’s engineering and tech programs are week. US News ranks Hopkins undergrad engineering 13th and biomedical engineering 1st. Bio computing/bioinformatics is ranked 4th. Hopkins is ranked 12th for undergraduate research,

I could go on and on but it is clear that you have little knowledge about Hopkins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys are idiots. It’s also top ranked in public policy, economics, etc. It’s hospital and medical research are world renowned, but it’s global policy program is renowned world wide too.

What ranking are you using? The public affairs school is ranked 35, same as UMD. Its Economics program is ranked 22, same as UMD.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-public-affairs-schools/public-affairs-rankings?_sort=rank-asc
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/economics-rankings?_sort=rank-asc

It's ranked 4 for Global Policy and Administration Programs, but that is for the graduate school SAIS which is based in DC, 1 hour away during off-peak hours by car. SAIS professors live in DC so the undergrads in Baltimore get little to no benefit from the graduate school.

Actually some SAIS professors teach at the undergrad campus and the 5 year ba/ma program is popular. Hopkins also has campuses in Bologna and Beijing.

The few that do will be the ones just starting out, not the world-renowned ones that gets Hopkins it's top 4 ranking.

I'm sure the BA/MA program is great but not particularly advantageous over Georgetown or Columbia, which both have 5-year BA/MA programs and are located in much better cities for anything international policy-related as an undergrad.

Spending 4 years in a school you do not want to go to just so you can get into the 1-year masters programs seems to be overkill, especially when that student could probably get into a top masters elsewhere in Harvard, Columbia or Georgetown.

You remain clueless, it’s a 3/2 split, not a 4/1. To you always go on and on about topics you know nothing about?

[Anonymous]

Here’s a ranking of undergraduate international studies programs. https://www.collegefactual.com/majors/social-sciences/international-relations-national-security/rankings/top-ranked/bachelors-degrees/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a ranking of undergraduate international studies programs. https://www.collegefactual.com/majors/social-sciences/international-relations-national-security/rankings/top-ranked/bachelors-degrees/

Salary looks shitty for this major

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a great school, but in a terrible location. DC took a tour and crossed it off the list based on surrounding area

Yale, Columbia, and Chicago have done just fine with their locations in the not-so-distant past. Hopefully that portion of Baltimore will continue to improve.

Hopkins also has the benefit of the name recognition that its med school and hospital provide. It was a popular school for kids in Mountain View and Palo Alto, CA to look at when I was out there.

Columbia's immediate surroundings are less than ideal but it's based on NYC, a global city. Manhattan is extremely safe for such a large city by American standards.

Chicago's immediate surroundings are pretty bad but again it's based in the 3rd largest American city. It's a matter of knowing which neighborhoods of a the city to avoid.

Baltimore is the 30th largest city in the US, smaller than Memphis, Tennessee and Portland, Oregon. The entire city is dangerous and rundown with very few, small pockets of relative safety.

Saying “NYC” evokes images of good areas like the UWS or Greenwich Village.

The actual comparison is between Morningside Heights (Columbia) and Charles Village (Hopkins). Morningside Heights is dicey at best; a few months ago, a Columbia student was stabbed in Morningside Heights while walking home from soccer practice. Two years before that, a female Columbia student was murdered nearby.

As far as safety goes, I’d give the advantage to Hopkins.

[Anonymous]

We tried RD because of the ranking but didn't really want it for non-stem, non-pre-med kid (pre-law). Guess that showed up as was rejected. At non-HYP ivy now so worked out. But only applied because of the ranking and being consistently in the top in a lot of surveys.

[Anonymous]

JHU is the highest academic D3 in the east and possibly the country. For kids who want to play their sport and graduate with a prestigious degree, it’s hard to do better than JHU.

[Anonymous]

You all are a bunch of idiots. Basically, Hopkins gets knocked for not being 'fun'?? Lol, ummm ok.

Hopkins isn't popular because it is a hard school. It is actually a very hard school where grades aren't inflated like Harvard. The reason JHU isn't 'fun' is because your kids actually have to go study, and they have to study a lot. At least you get what you pay for, which is an education, not a party scene.

Have bay of you even ever been near Homewood? It is totally fine. The area around the campus and Charles Village have grown big time. Hampden is walkable and has many bars and restaurants. Peabody heights is a brewery walkable from campus. The whole Moint Vernon area has multiple options and is accessible by shuttle. The area 23rd street now has a string of bars, some of which have been named or of the top 50 bars in all of America. Clavel also has some of the best Mexican food in the entire state of MD.

I mean, sure, there's crime just like every other school that's in a big city. As if UPenn is in some nice location? ITT: a bunch of scared suburban white people who've probably only passed through Baltimore only to go to an Oriole's game once or briefly the IH. Baltimore is a fine city that has a lot of hidden gems. It punches well above its weight for food and bars. Baltimore has way, wayyyyyy better bars and restaurants than DC.

[Anonymous]

I graduated from JHU in ‘ 93 and was just back there a couple of years ago. The area around campus is lovely and because most students lived off campus when I was there (I think that has changed a bit) Charles village especially is quite safe and has a nice buzz to it. Sure, parts of Baltimore have big problems but it has lots of fun area and even coming from small town New England I figured out pretty quickly how to be safe. I actually think Baltimore is a great little city to be a student. Honestly there’s also plenty of partying and fun stuff going on. But there’s a high proportion of premed and engineering students whose course loads are intense so impacts culture of campus.

[Anonymous]

Is jhu heavily international?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I never hear anyone mention it any more. I know that it is still a very fine school (and two of my siblings went there) -- but are kids less interested? Or is it just my kid's friends who aren't interested?

It just feels like a pre-med school

+1. Great for pre-med, mid for almost everything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I never hear anyone mention it any more. I know that it is still a very fine school (and two of my siblings went there) -- but are kids less interested? Or is it just my kid's friends who aren't interested?

It just feels like a pre-med school

+1. Great for pre-med, mid for almost everything else.

Again false, but hey, don’ let lack of facts get in the way.