Why are there no safety rules regarding children on bikes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not even kids or pedestrians. It's that DRIVING in this city is stressful because of other DRIVERS who don't follow the rules of the road! It's that most days of the week, I go to pull onto a major DC road where at least one day a week a car runs the red light as I'm about to pull out on the green. It's drivers who run a stop sign when you're about to proceed after you actually legally stopped. It's drivers that go 50mph down my tiny neighborhood street, sometimes the wrong way on a one way. Near misses are annoying enough that there could be zero pedestrian accidents and I'd still want more enforcement because DC area drivers are such a sh*tshow. .

The fact that we have a freeforall, break the law with no repercussions, governance for traffic violations doesn't help.

I don't think enforcement is the panacea that will solve all of your problems. Are you ok with physically slowing down cars? Speed bumps? Raised crosswalks? Narrower lanes? I think it does work out overall for safety, but it comes at the cost of some convenience while driving.

Yes. I'm actually hoping for speedbumps on my street and an extra stop sign nearby. Yes I'm ok with raised crosswalks and narrower lanes, especially with the way drivers in SUV have stopped too far into the crosswalk when I'm crossing holding hands with my kids who are below their line of sight (even my 8 year old is below the line of sight for some cars).

I have kids so I don't care about losing a bit of convenience. I think the people who don't care about even a handful of kids dying on DC streets are straight up selfish aholes, that's honestly what I think.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

You must live in a different Washington DC than I do. Maybe even an alternate dimension? Or, you just don't view 10-15mph above the speed limit as speeding, or rolling a stop sign, stopping in the crosswalk instead of behind the bar, buzzing pedestrians in the crosswalk... etc as problems.

Honesty, I've posted this before, but all these "it's the parents and kids and pedestrian, not the car" people are just rich *holes who live in expensive real estate in NW where the rate of traffic accidents is the lowest in the city ANYWAYS WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE BETTER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS and are used to getting their way. Any obstacle, including a little speed bump, is difficult for their "I get what I want for my entire life" egos. They're just ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

Yes I live here and drive to/from work every day. "hard to speed?" hahahahahaha. Do you even live here? You're hilarious. Stop signs and traffic lights don't mean anything when drivers speed through them which happens every day on my drive. Maybe you live in some of the areas of the city with better roads and built in safety precautions? Even my 8 year old gets mad at the speeders on our tiny street. We can hear them fly through sometimes without even being outside it's so noisy.

I've never seen a DC police officer pull anyone over. I've even seen people run red lights in front of DC police and they do nothing.

I think this person writes 95 percent of all the posts on DCUM dealing with bikes. They seem to be on DCUM 24 hours a day. I don't think they do anything else with their time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

Yes I live here and drive to/from work every day. "hard to speed?" hahahahahaha. Do you even live here? You're hilarious. Stop signs and traffic lights don't mean anything when drivers speed through them which happens every day on my drive. Maybe you live in some of the areas of the city with better roads and built in safety precautions? Even my 8 year old gets mad at the speeders on our tiny street. We can hear them fly through sometimes without even being outside it's so noisy.

I've never seen a DC police officer pull anyone over. I've even seen people run red lights in front of DC police and they do nothing.

I think this person writes 95 percent of all the posts on DCUM dealing with bikes. They seem to be on DCUM 24 hours a day. I don't think they do anything else with their time.

I think Nick D. writes all the posts complaining about kids and pedestrians. It generally sounds like one crotchety geezer. Fits his MO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

You must live in a different Washington DC than I do. Maybe even an alternate dimension? Or, you just don't view 10-15mph above the speed limit as speeding, or rolling a stop sign, stopping in the crosswalk instead of behind the bar, buzzing pedestrians in the crosswalk... etc as problems.

Honesty, I've posted this before, but all these "it's the parents and kids and pedestrian, not the car" people are just rich *holes who live in expensive real estate in NW where the rate of traffic accidents is the lowest in the city ANYWAYS WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE BETTER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS and are used to getting their way. Any obstacle, including a little speed bump, is difficult for their "I get what I want for my entire life" egos. They're just ridiculous.

Oh, like this: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-4-year-olds-mom-pleads-safety-changes-after-son-hit-and-killed-by-car/65-1d036b36-2f32-4791-8b13-e28f1474bb4b

Like the kids hit on Southern Ave?

You really should think about who you are as a person. It's not good right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

Yes I live here and drive to/from work every day. "hard to speed?" hahahahahaha. Do you even live here? You're hilarious. Stop signs and traffic lights don't mean anything when drivers speed through them which happens every day on my drive. Maybe you live in some of the areas of the city with better roads and built in safety precautions? Even my 8 year old gets mad at the speeders on our tiny street. We can hear them fly through sometimes without even being outside it's so noisy.

I've never seen a DC police officer pull anyone over. I've even seen people run red lights in front of DC police and they do nothing.

I think this person writes 95 percent of all the posts on DCUM dealing with bikes. They seem to be on DCUM 24 hours a day. I don't think they do anything else with their time.

I think Nick D. writes all the posts complaining about kids and pedestrians. It generally sounds like one crotchety geezer. Fits his MO.

Seriously, you seem a little (a lot) obsessive. Maybe find a hobby? You clearly have too much time on your hands. Also, none of us know who "Nick" is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

Yes I live here and drive to/from work every day. "hard to speed?" hahahahahaha. Do you even live here? You're hilarious. Stop signs and traffic lights don't mean anything when drivers speed through them which happens every day on my drive. Maybe you live in some of the areas of the city with better roads and built in safety precautions? Even my 8 year old gets mad at the speeders on our tiny street. We can hear them fly through sometimes without even being outside it's so noisy.

I've never seen a DC police officer pull anyone over. I've even seen people run red lights in front of DC police and they do nothing.

I think this person writes 95 percent of all the posts on DCUM dealing with bikes. They seem to be on DCUM 24 hours a day. I don't think they do anything else with their time.

I think Nick D. writes all the posts complaining about kids and pedestrians. It generally sounds like one crotchety geezer. Fits his MO.

Seriously, you seem a little (a lot) obsessive. Maybe find a hobby? You clearly have too much time on your hands. Also, none of us know who "Nick" is.

DP, good for you if you've never met him or heard from him. Although that means you haven't been to many traffic safety meetings with DDOT.

He's fairly easy to identify on here with hyperbole and lies like "there are only 300 bicyclists in DC" that are all young white men and the city spends BILLIONS on bike lanes. He's not very different in real life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

You must live in a different Washington DC than I do. Maybe even an alternate dimension? Or, you just don't view 10-15mph above the speed limit as speeding, or rolling a stop sign, stopping in the crosswalk instead of behind the bar, buzzing pedestrians in the crosswalk... etc as problems.

Honesty, I've posted this before, but all these "it's the parents and kids and pedestrian, not the car" people are just rich *holes who live in expensive real estate in NW where the rate of traffic accidents is the lowest in the city ANYWAYS WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE BETTER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS and are used to getting their way. Any obstacle, including a little speed bump, is difficult for their "I get what I want for my entire life" egos. They're just ridiculous.

Oh, like this: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-4-year-olds-mom-pleads-safety-changes-after-son-hit-and-killed-by-car/65-1d036b36-2f32-4791-8b13-e28f1474bb4b

Like the kids hit on Southern Ave?

You really should think about who you are as a person. It's not good right now.

Yes, I'm saying the victim blamers who say "it's the pedestrian or the biker" and "where are their parents" don't want road safety improvements are jerks. I'm not the one blaming the pedestrians, it's some other person on this thread. I'd like safety improvements, raised crosswalks, more speed bumps, more cameras, and more enforcement. I think the people who argue against these improvements are entitled jerks and often enough, they seem to live in the affluent parts of the city that already have better road improvements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If a child is in a car, they have be strapped into a car seat that meets federal safety standards or they have to be seat belted in.

But if that child is on a bike, on the very same road, then no safety rules apply at all? How can this be?

Cars go 60-70mph. Bikes don't, especially people biking with kids.

It would be great to have a real conversation about safety standards but that's going to happen with people who actually care about kids and are looking at data. Not whiny drivers who just don't want bicyclists in their way.

The speed of the bike is irrelevant. The issue is what happens when a 4,000 pound car hits a bike with a child on it who has essentially nothing protecting them.

Wouldn't that argument mean that pedestrians should wear helmets as well?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a child is in a car, they have be strapped into a car seat that meets federal safety standards or they have to be seat belted in.

But if that child is on a bike, on the very same road, then no safety rules apply at all? How can this be?

Cars go 60-70mph. Bikes don't, especially people biking with kids.

It would be great to have a real conversation about safety standards but that's going to happen with people who actually care about kids and are looking at data. Not whiny drivers who just don't want bicyclists in their way.

The speed of the bike is irrelevant. The issue is what happens when a 4,000 pound car hits a bike with a child on it who has essentially nothing protecting them.

Wouldn't that argument mean that pedestrians should wear helmets as well?

most pedestrians have the good sense to stay out of the road, and there isn't much danger of cars driving on sidewalks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a child is in a car, they have be strapped into a car seat that meets federal safety standards or they have to be seat belted in.

But if that child is on a bike, on the very same road, then no safety rules apply at all? How can this be?

Cars go 60-70mph. Bikes don't, especially people biking with kids.

It would be great to have a real conversation about safety standards but that's going to happen with people who actually care about kids and are looking at data. Not whiny drivers who just don't want bicyclists in their way.

The speed of the bike is irrelevant. The issue is what happens when a 4,000 pound car hits a bike with a child on it who has essentially nothing protecting them.

Wouldn't that argument mean that pedestrians should wear helmets as well?

most pedestrians have the good sense to stay out of the road, and there isn't much danger of cars driving on sidewalks.

Yeah, we all just walk around our one square block, never crossing an intersection and no one even has a driveway or alley.

Good for you for not spending time on Twitter or Popville, but there are plenty of examples of people driving onto sidewalks - even into buildings.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

You must live in a different Washington DC than I do. Maybe even an alternate dimension? Or, you just don't view 10-15mph above the speed limit as speeding, or rolling a stop sign, stopping in the crosswalk instead of behind the bar, buzzing pedestrians in the crosswalk... etc as problems.

Honesty, I've posted this before, but all these "it's the parents and kids and pedestrian, not the car" people are just rich *holes who live in expensive real estate in NW where the rate of traffic accidents is the lowest in the city ANYWAYS WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE BETTER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS and are used to getting their way. Any obstacle, including a little speed bump, is difficult for their "I get what I want for my entire life" egos. They're just ridiculous.

Oh, like this: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-4-year-olds-mom-pleads-safety-changes-after-son-hit-and-killed-by-car/65-1d036b36-2f32-4791-8b13-e28f1474bb4b

Like the kids hit on Southern Ave?

You really should think about who you are as a person. It's not good right now.

Yes, I'm saying the victim blamers who say "it's the pedestrian or the biker" and "where are their parents" don't want road safety improvements are jerks. I'm not the one blaming the pedestrians, it's some other person on this thread. I'd like safety improvements, raised crosswalks, more speed bumps, more cameras, and more enforcement. I think the people who argue against these improvements are entitled jerks and often enough, they seem to live in the affluent parts of the city that already have better road improvements.

Oh - I misread, sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

You must live in a different Washington DC than I do. Maybe even an alternate dimension? Or, you just don't view 10-15mph above the speed limit as speeding, or rolling a stop sign, stopping in the crosswalk instead of behind the bar, buzzing pedestrians in the crosswalk... etc as problems.

Honesty, I've posted this before, but all these "it's the parents and kids and pedestrian, not the car" people are just rich *holes who live in expensive real estate in NW where the rate of traffic accidents is the lowest in the city ANYWAYS WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE BETTER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS and are used to getting their way. Any obstacle, including a little speed bump, is difficult for their "I get what I want for my entire life" egos. They're just ridiculous.

Oh, like this: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-4-year-olds-mom-pleads-safety-changes-after-son-hit-and-killed-by-car/65-1d036b36-2f32-4791-8b13-e28f1474bb4b

Like the kids hit on Southern Ave?

You really should think about who you are as a person. It's not good right now.

Yes, I'm saying the victim blamers who say "it's the pedestrian or the biker" and "where are their parents" don't want road safety improvements are jerks. I'm not the one blaming the pedestrians, it's some other person on this thread. I'd like safety improvements, raised crosswalks, more speed bumps, more cameras, and more enforcement. I think the people who argue against these improvements are entitled jerks and often enough, they seem to live in the affluent parts of the city that already have better road improvements.

Seriously, you seem like an obsessive creep. Maybe worth talking to a mental health professional.

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Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

You must live in a different Washington DC than I do. Maybe even an alternate dimension? Or, you just don't view 10-15mph above the speed limit as speeding, or rolling a stop sign, stopping in the crosswalk instead of behind the bar, buzzing pedestrians in the crosswalk... etc as problems.

Honesty, I've posted this before, but all these "it's the parents and kids and pedestrian, not the car" people are just rich *holes who live in expensive real estate in NW where the rate of traffic accidents is the lowest in the city ANYWAYS WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE BETTER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS and are used to getting their way. Any obstacle, including a little speed bump, is difficult for their "I get what I want for my entire life" egos. They're just ridiculous.

Oh, like this: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-4-year-olds-mom-pleads-safety-changes-after-son-hit-and-killed-by-car/65-1d036b36-2f32-4791-8b13-e28f1474bb4b

Like the kids hit on Southern Ave?

You really should think about who you are as a person. It's not good right now.

Yes, I'm saying the victim blamers who say "it's the pedestrian or the biker" and "where are their parents" don't want road safety improvements are jerks. I'm not the one blaming the pedestrians, it's some other person on this thread. I'd like safety improvements, raised crosswalks, more speed bumps, more cameras, and more enforcement. I think the people who argue against these improvements are entitled jerks and often enough, they seem to live in the affluent parts of the city that already have better road improvements.

Seriously, you seem like an obsessive creep. Maybe worth talking to a mental health professional.

How are they an obsessive creep for wanting fewer people killed and injured? You sound like a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:1) they are required: "The law mandates that riders under 16 are required to wear a helmet while cycling in the District of Columbia."

2) a bigger concern is the DC drivers who are speeding and don't even know how to properly come to a full stop at a stop sign. So sick of people in giant SUVs stopping in the middle of the crosswalk like they apparently never went to driving school or stopped caring or both.

Before anyone accuses me of being a bicyclist activist, I do not bike, but I do have kids (who wear helmets).

DC does pretty much no traffic enforcement. We have speed and red light cameras but there's barely any repercussion if you even get tickets and don't pay them. There was an increase in booting recently (good) but it was barely anything for awhile. 2 people for the whole city with millions of dollars in unpaid tickets.

It's basically a free for all for people to drive like complete jerks. Really, you want to start a thread about kids wearing helmets?

The streets here aren't nearly as dangerous as all the hyperventilating here suggests, but if they were, it would beg the obvious question: What are earth as people doing taking children into all of that? And why aren't there more rules protecting those kids from their parents' poor choices?

If you listen to people in DC communities, they want safer streets. You personally may not care, but you're in the minority on that. I care, my neighbors care, and we will continue to vote accordingly and hope our representatives and the DC council heed the numerous concerns of their constituents. Generally speaking, DC residents favor traffic safety improvements rather than the freeforall "it's fine, do nothing, ever" attitude you espouse.

Free for all? Do you even live here? Traffic accidents are extremely rare in Washington D.C. It's hard to speed because the congestion is terrible and traffic cameras are everywhere and the police are omnipresent. We have the biggest police force in the United States. If that's not enough, the blocks here are short, which means there are stop signs or traffic lights every five feet, with plenty of speed bumps in between.

You must live in a different Washington DC than I do. Maybe even an alternate dimension? Or, you just don't view 10-15mph above the speed limit as speeding, or rolling a stop sign, stopping in the crosswalk instead of behind the bar, buzzing pedestrians in the crosswalk... etc as problems.

Honesty, I've posted this before, but all these "it's the parents and kids and pedestrian, not the car" people are just rich *holes who live in expensive real estate in NW where the rate of traffic accidents is the lowest in the city ANYWAYS WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE BETTER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS and are used to getting their way. Any obstacle, including a little speed bump, is difficult for their "I get what I want for my entire life" egos. They're just ridiculous.

Oh, like this: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-4-year-olds-mom-pleads-safety-changes-after-son-hit-and-killed-by-car/65-1d036b36-2f32-4791-8b13-e28f1474bb4b

Like the kids hit on Southern Ave?

You really should think about who you are as a person. It's not good right now.

Yes, I'm saying the victim blamers who say "it's the pedestrian or the biker" and "where are their parents" don't want road safety improvements are jerks. I'm not the one blaming the pedestrians, it's some other person on this thread. I'd like safety improvements, raised crosswalks, more speed bumps, more cameras, and more enforcement. I think the people who argue against these improvements are entitled jerks and often enough, they seem to live in the affluent parts of the city that already have better road improvements.

Seriously, you seem like an obsessive creep. Maybe worth talking to a mental health professional.

You're hilarious, ND!