should i not buy a telfar bag because i am white?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s just a tote bag. Why do you need THAT exact tote bag? No one is going to stop you from buying it and most people won’t know or care, but if you live in an area and run in circles where people are aware of the brand, why?

I am a white woman and not everything is for you OP. It’s ok for there to be some things that you like and covet but cannot have.

It’s like cultural appropriation and Halloween costumes. If you have to ask if it’s wrong, it’s probably wrong. If you ask “if I do X Y Z, then is it ok?” It is wrong. If you have to justify or explain your choice, if you have to modify the costume to make it ok - that is your clue it is wrong.

If you feel you will have to explain your choice or if you will constantly wonder if POC are giving you stink eye when you carry the bag - it’s not worth it. Just find another tote bag.

I’m Latina and this is bs. This mentality is backwards and racist.

+1

This has to be a troll. So, let’s say there are items white oriole can have, but not black people. Is that okay? Of course not. How stupid

[Anonymous]

You should not buy it because it’s over-priced.

But that never stopped the status-conscious. So off you go.

[Anonymous]

99.9 % of woman would not be able to identify the bag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s just a tote bag. Why do you need THAT exact tote bag? No one is going to stop you from buying it and most people won’t know or care, but if you live in an area and run in circles where people are aware of the brand, why?

I am a white woman and not everything is for you OP. It’s ok for there to be some things that you like and covet but cannot have.

It’s like cultural appropriation and Halloween costumes. If you have to ask if it’s wrong, it’s probably wrong. If you ask “if I do X Y Z, then is it ok?” It is wrong. If you have to justify or explain your choice, if you have to modify the costume to make it ok - that is your clue it is wrong.

If you feel you will have to explain your choice or if you will constantly wonder if POC are giving you stink eye when you carry the bag - it’s not worth it. Just find another tote bag.

Telfar’s slogan is “not for you, it’s for everyone “. So I think they want everyone to purchase and use their bags. Unfortunately they can’t keep them in stock. OP beware, there are bootleg Telfar’s being sold on the internet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s just a tote bag. Why do you need THAT exact tote bag? No one is going to stop you from buying it and most people won’t know or care, but if you live in an area and run in circles where people are aware of the brand, why?

I am a white woman and not everything is for you OP. It’s ok for there to be some things that you like and covet but cannot have.

It’s like cultural appropriation and Halloween costumes. If you have to ask if it’s wrong, it’s probably wrong. If you ask “if I do X Y Z, then is it ok?” It is wrong. If you have to justify or explain your choice, if you have to modify the costume to make it ok - that is your clue it is wrong.

If you feel you will have to explain your choice or if you will constantly wonder if POC are giving you stink eye when you carry the bag - it’s not worth it. Just find another tote bag.

Yeah, I mean, why stop at tote bags. OP shouldn’t sit in the front of the bus or use certain water fountains. Not everything is for you, right?? Nobody wants someone of another race to give them the “stink eye” or confront them about using things that aren’t theirs, right??

[Anonymous]

If you like the bag buy it. Carrying a bag from a Black designer is not cultural appropriation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s just a tote bag. Why do you need THAT exact tote bag? No one is going to stop you from buying it and most people won’t know or care, but if you live in an area and run in circles where people are aware of the brand, why?

I am a white woman and not everything is for you OP. It’s ok for there to be some things that you like and covet but cannot have.

It’s like cultural appropriation and Halloween costumes. If you have to ask if it’s wrong, it’s probably wrong. If you ask “if I do X Y Z, then is it ok?” It is wrong. If you have to justify or explain your choice, if you have to modify the costume to make it ok - that is your clue it is wrong.

If you feel you will have to explain your choice or if you will constantly wonder if POC are giving you stink eye when you carry the bag - it’s not worth it. Just find another tote bag.

I’m Latina and this is bs. This mentality is backwards and racist.

+1

This has to be a troll. So, let’s say there are items white oriole can have, but not black people. Is that okay? Of course not. How stupid

+1 I'm biracial (black/white) and agree this is absurd.

OP, were you able to get one? I've tried a couple of times but they sell out too fast.

[Anonymous]

They are great bags! Durable, hold lots of stuff, and the little one is adorable. I've used the big one for overnight trips to NYC. Get them!

[Anonymous]

People have taken cultural appropriation to its absurdity.

[Anonymous]

How is it cultural appropriation to support a Black-owned business? Seriously backwards.

I remember people passing around lists of Black-owned business after George Floyd's murder, when people cared about racial justice. They did that to encourage white people to buy from minority owned businesses. Some of us are actually making that choice as much as possible still.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is it cultural appropriation to support a Black-owned business? Seriously backwards.

I remember people passing around lists of Black-owned business after George Floyd's murder, when people cared about racial justice. They did that to encourage white people to buy from minority owned businesses. Some of us are actually making that choice as much as possible still.

Because it's become a buzzword and people don't actually know what it means. Purchasing a product from a Black-owned business, thereby compensating the Black person for their work and ideas, is the opposite of "appropriation."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is it cultural appropriation to support a Black-owned business? Seriously backwards.

I remember people passing around lists of Black-owned business after George Floyd's murder, when people cared about racial justice. They did that to encourage white people to buy from minority owned businesses. Some of us are actually making that choice as much as possible still.

Because it's become a buzzword and people don't actually know what it means. Purchasing a product from a Black-owned business, thereby compensating the Black person for their work and ideas, is the opposite of "appropriation."

Thank you. I got into argument with a friend over the use of the word appropriation and tbh, I think it damaged our friendship.

Basically, I was saying

Elvis = Appropriation
Eminem = not appropriation

But they disagreed, saying if you're not from the culture, but still profit off the culture, then you are doing something wrong.

I say that Eminem did not appropriate it because he does not claim it as his own and gives the historical respect to the culture that did create the genre. Even though he profits from it.

It's definitely a touchy word

[Anonymous]

I do not understand this "black owned brands are only for black people" mentality. WTF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not understand this "black owned brands are only for black people" mentality. WTF?

Is this really a thing?

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thank you everyone for your insights. I was not able to get one but will get it next time.