UVA admissions from NOVA public schools

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you not believe it OP? Schools value geographic diversity.

Let say student A (Langley HS high performance school) and student B (Annandale HS low performance school) with identical GPAs, SAT/ACT scores, same ECs. There is a very good chance that student B will get accepted to UVA while student A will get rejected.

If Student A attends Annandale, it's less likely they will end up with similar statistics and accomplishments by senior year. That's why parents pay a premium for Langley and pupil place their kids out of Annandale in large numbers.

Where are you getting this from? The curriculum is the same across all of the neighborhood high schools. There are plenty of kids at every one of them with lots of APs and high test scores. You’re just being a snob.

You are misinformed. Neither the curriculum nor the extra-curricular are the same at Annandale and Langley. Annandale does not offer AP courses and very few students at Annandale receive IB diplomas. But feel free to actually demonstrate that dozens of Annandale students are matriculating to UVA every year.

You no more need an IB diploma to benefit from IB than you need a Capstone to benefit from AP.

But you knew that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you not believe it OP? Schools value geographic diversity.

Let say student A (Langley HS high performance school) and student B (Annandale HS low performance school) with identical GPAs, SAT/ACT scores, same ECs. There is a very good chance that student B will get accepted to UVA while student A will get rejected.

If Student A attends Annandale, it's less likely they will end up with similar statistics and accomplishments by senior year. That's why parents pay a premium for Langley and pupil place their kids out of Annandale in large numbers.

Where are you getting this from? The curriculum is the same across all of the neighborhood high schools. There are plenty of kids at every one of them with lots of APs and high test scores. You’re just being a snob.

Mean SAT scores are much lower at Annandale than Langley/McLean. Not saying there aren’t high stats kids at Annandale, but there are definitely fewer of them making admission more likely. (I think the same argument would apply to TJ in comparison to Langley/McLean.)

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fairfax-county-sat-outcomes-stay-strong-despite-pandemic-testing-challenges

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the SCHEV stats for UVA and LCPS for 2021. 1832 applied, 479 accepted and 275 attend. This out of 18 high schools. That comes to an average of about 26 accepted and 15 attend. I am the one that posted that my kids LCPS had less than 15 acceptances, they have about 10 who attend from that class. That was from Naviance when my kid gradated in 2021. Our school is not in one of the more wealthy areas and is one of the smaller schools in the county. These stats are somewhat useless though because they are not broken down by school. Net net the only useful stat is that the acceptance rate for LCPS was 26%. To compare, Fairfax acceptance rate is 32.4% for the same period.

I think folks that live in Fairfax are the ones saying "dozens get in" because guess what your schools are much bigger than LCPS by and large and well, looks like it has a higher acceptance rate as well. Can we please stop spouting off what we do not know to be true?

Well, 26 percent being accepted is not “next to impossible.” Also, the average Loudoun high school has 1000 few students than Fairfax so it’s not surprising that the numbers are lower. Finally, that fewer are being admitted from your “poorer” Loudoun high school doesn’t mean it harder to get in from there - it just means that, for whatever reason, fewer are applying.

My point that it’s not as hard as people make it out to be still stands.

yes fewer people are applying. At my kids LCPS school about 75-80 apply every year, about 15-20 get in every year, that's 20-25% so that makes sense. I'm not saying it's impossible to get in, but there are not "dozens of people accepted at every NOVA school".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA probably doesn’t have a quota, but they do have high standards. Unless something were to dramatically shift a school’s underlying demographics, it’s probably fair to say that about the same percent each year will meet UVA’s standards. What are those standards? As another poster mentioned, it’s roughly top 5% of class, 33+ ACT, 1450+ SAT, 8+ AP classes, and 4.35+ GPA (recently this has been inflated due to COVID grades). If a school has 500 kids, 5% is 25 kids. That’s about the number that get admitted.

A previous poster mentioned that FCPS has approximately a 30% acceptance rate. Way more than 5.

They mean that the top 5% is about 25 kids. The top 5% being a typical line in the sand between getting into UVA and not getting in within NOVA schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to Naviance at my kids' NOVA high school, UVA admits about 50 students per year (range from 45-51 over the past seven years). That holds steady regardless of how many apply. So, while they say they don't have quotas they sure seem to have a quota.

So because there's a trend, you assume a rule? That's illogical.

[Anonymous]

I’ve been on this board for a long time (3 kids). I honestly believe that some people on this board spew misinformation about admissions to scare others off from applying. They truly believe that providing high level information that doesn’t apply to each high school, or anecdotes of high stat rejections, will scare people off. There are a lot of crazy people on DCUM and I don’t put it past them to think this way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you not believe it OP? Schools value geographic diversity.

Let say student A (Langley HS high performance school) and student B (Annandale HS low performance school) with identical GPAs, SAT/ACT scores, same ECs. There is a very good chance that student B will get accepted to UVA while student A will get rejected.

If Student A attends Annandale, it's less likely they will end up with similar statistics and accomplishments by senior year. That's why parents pay a premium for Langley and pupil place their kids out of Annandale in large numbers.

Where are you getting this from? The curriculum is the same across all of the neighborhood high schools. There are plenty of kids at every one of them with lots of APs and high test scores. You’re just being a snob.

Mean SAT scores are much lower at Annandale than Langley/McLean. Not saying there aren’t high stats kids at Annandale, but there are definitely fewer of them making admission more likely. (I think the same argument would apply to TJ in comparison to Langley/McLean.)

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fairfax-county-sat-outcomes-stay-strong-despite-pandemic-testing-challenges

UVA has always placed more emphasis on grades and course selection than test scores. My UMC blond white kid got in with an SAT score in the mid 1200s, which at that time (not too long ago) was more than 100 points below the school’s average, from a NOVA public with a very high GPA. not that long ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA probably doesn’t have a quota, but they do have high standards. Unless something were to dramatically shift a school’s underlying demographics, it’s probably fair to say that about the same percent each year will meet UVA’s standards. What are those standards? As another poster mentioned, it’s roughly top 5% of class, 33+ ACT, 1450+ SAT, 8+ AP classes, and 4.35+ GPA (recently this has been inflated due to COVID grades). If a school has 500 kids, 5% is 25 kids. That’s about the number that get admitted.

A previous poster mentioned that FCPS has approximately a 30% acceptance rate. Way more than 5.

They mean that the top 5% is about 25 kids. The top 5% being a typical line in the sand between getting into UVA and not getting in within NOVA schools.

You’re assuming that the entire top 5% of the class applies to UVA, which is definitely not the case anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on this board for a long time (3 kids). I honestly believe that some people on this board spew misinformation about admissions to scare others off from applying. They truly believe that providing high level information that doesn’t apply to each high school, or anecdotes of high stat rejections, will scare people off. There are a lot of crazy people on DCUM and I don’t put it past them to think this way.

Yeah, I agree. Or they put this information out there to justify their own kids rejection.

Yes, it is not easy to get into UVA and it is getting harder every year. But lots of kids from nova still get in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA probably doesn’t have a quota, but they do have high standards. Unless something were to dramatically shift a school’s underlying demographics, it’s probably fair to say that about the same percent each year will meet UVA’s standards. What are those standards? As another poster mentioned, it’s roughly top 5% of class, 33+ ACT, 1450+ SAT, 8+ AP classes, and 4.35+ GPA (recently this has been inflated due to COVID grades). If a school has 500 kids, 5% is 25 kids. That’s about the number that get admitted.

A previous poster mentioned that FCPS has approximately a 30% acceptance rate. Way more than 5.

They mean that the top 5% is about 25 kids. The top 5% being a typical line in the sand between getting into UVA and not getting in within NOVA schools.

You’re assuming that the entire top 5% of the class applies to UVA, which is definitely not the case anywhere.

It’s probably very close. Even if kids want to attend Ivies, everyone knows those schools are crapshoots. UVA is frequently a backup for even the brightest kids in NOVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In 2021-22, UVA accepted 1320 kids from Fairfax County. Thirty high schools so 44 kids per high school. 656 enrolled so ~22 per high school.

In the same year, FCPS graduated 14000 kids, so UVA admitted about 10% of all graduates. 5% of all graduates chose to attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do so many posters continue to insist that it’s almost impossible to get into UVA from a NOVA public and throw out ridiculous and easily refutable numbers like “only 10 from our school got in?” Yes it’s a tough admit but the typical NOVA high school gets dozens of applicants in each year.

I wonder if these posters are just telling themselves this because their own kids didn’t get in.

What kind of moron can’t get accepted into UVA?!? My DC applied to 10 schools, got accepted into every one of them, and UVA was never even a contender. DC ended up going to Princeton. Pathetic that anyone would even feel it necessary to apply to such a poorly rated school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do so many posters continue to insist that it’s almost impossible to get into UVA from a NOVA public and throw out ridiculous and easily refutable numbers like “only 10 from our school got in?” Yes it’s a tough admit but the typical NOVA high school gets dozens of applicants in each year.

I wonder if these posters are just telling themselves this because their own kids didn’t get in.

What kind of moron can’t get accepted into UVA?!? My DC applied to 10 schools, got accepted into every one of them, and UVA was never even a contender. DC ended up going to Princeton. Pathetic that anyone would even feel it necessary to apply to such a poorly rated school.

hahahahahahahha welcome to the discussion PP!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA probably doesn’t have a quota, but they do have high standards. Unless something were to dramatically shift a school’s underlying demographics, it’s probably fair to say that about the same percent each year will meet UVA’s standards. What are those standards? As another poster mentioned, it’s roughly top 5% of class, 33+ ACT, 1450+ SAT, 8+ AP classes, and 4.35+ GPA (recently this has been inflated due to COVID grades). If a school has 500 kids, 5% is 25 kids. That’s about the number that get admitted.

A previous poster mentioned that FCPS has approximately a 30% acceptance rate. Way more than 5.

They mean that the top 5% is about 25 kids. The top 5% being a typical line in the sand between getting into UVA and not getting in within NOVA schools.

You’re assuming that the entire top 5% of the class applies to UVA, which is definitely not the case anywhere.

It’s probably very close. Even if kids want to attend Ivies, everyone knows those schools are crapshoots. UVA is frequently a backup for even the brightest kids in NOVA.

This, most of the top 5% is going to apply to UVA for no other reason than as a safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you not believe it OP? Schools value geographic diversity.

Let say student A (Langley HS high performance school) and student B (Annandale HS low performance school) with identical GPAs, SAT/ACT scores, same ECs. There is a very good chance that student B will get accepted to UVA while student A will get rejected.

If Student A attends Annandale, it's less likely they will end up with similar statistics and accomplishments by senior year. That's why parents pay a premium for Langley and pupil place their kids out of Annandale in large numbers.

Where are you getting this from? The curriculum is the same across all of the neighborhood high schools. There are plenty of kids at every one of them with lots of APs and high test scores. You’re just being a snob.

Mean SAT scores are much lower at Annandale than Langley/McLean. Not saying there aren’t high stats kids at Annandale, but there are definitely fewer of them making admission more likely. (I think the same argument would apply to TJ in comparison to Langley/McLean.)

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fairfax-county-sat-outcomes-stay-strong-despite-pandemic-testing-challenges

UVA has always placed more emphasis on grades and course selection than test scores. My UMC blond white kid got in with an SAT score in the mid 1200s, which at that time (not too long ago) was more than 100 points below the school’s average, from a NOVA public with a very high GPA. not that long ago.

This is still true and whenever I say this, people tell me I'm lying. My DS from a NoVa public got into UVA with a 1380 but top 2% of his class. They do weight the grades more, which they should honestly as it represents a longer stretch of time than one or two days of SAT testing. Posters here have told me they think he should not have gotten in, but yet he did and he currently has a 4.0 as a second year so clearly UVA made the right decision to bet on his success there even if his SAT was on the lower side.