1600 and Rejected?

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Anonymous wrote:1600 in one sitting or super scored? ([/b]I think there's a difference.[b] I don't know if colleges do.)

My niece with a superscored 1600 was rejected from HYP, got into Cornell, and is going to a BS/MD program somewhere ... I forget which school but it is not Rice or Brown.

Why do you think there is a difference? Presumably the math and verbal sections are equally difficult across different sittings. This is just yet another thing that creates artificial distinctions between students who aren’t really different.

Not every college considers a super-score.

Right, they do it as a way to create artificial distinctions, like I said. Is a kid who scored 1560 on test 1 (780/780) and then a 1600 on test 2 different from a kid who scored 780/800 and 800/780? No they aren’t. Way too much is placed on the SAT/ACT. All they test is whether you are good at that test or not, and to a certain degree, how affluent you are.

Definately measures how affluent you are. Much easier to raise your score with private/1-1 tutoring. I know, it works. My own kid (3.99 UW Gpa, 10 AP courses) went from a 1300 to a 1500 with just 4 hours of tutoring and 2-3 hours of their own outside "studying". And the remaining 5 hours of tutoring my kid did plus 3 more practice tests were all around 1500 +/- 20 points. These tutors help your kid hone in on specifically what they are missing and help with the basic tricks of how to navigate the test.

I have no doubt that if my kid wanted to do more intensive tutoring (10-20 hours), they could have gotten to a 1550. They were hovering around a perfect Math but never got it. And verbal could easily improve with more work. We chose not to do it, as mentally it's just not worth taking the extra time for another 40-50 points. I felt my kid had gotten to their sweet spot. But if I wanted to spend another $2K and 20+ hours of my kid's time, they could have scored higher. However, majority of people cannot afford to do that---most just use online free tutoring, which is not as helpful as one-one tutoring typically.

It doesn't always work out though. I know parents who throw tons of money at test prep and the kid stays sub-1300.

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If Asian

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Anonymous wrote:I heard recently that Cornell rejected ~88% of applicants with a 1600. Other ivies are probably similar.

so you heard from your bartender?

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Anonymous wrote:If Asian

This. My kid has 1600, 4.0, NMS, ECs, magnet curriculum, 12 APs, full pay, internship and was rejected from some highly selective schools for cs. No biggie. Going to state school with generous merit scholarship, double major, research opportunity etc.

He is getting a new car and 25K from us as a thank you for saving us a ton of money.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard recently that Cornell rejected ~88% of applicants with a 1600. Other ivies are probably similar.

so you heard from your bartender?

Basically. It was in a podcast.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you want anecdotes when you already know perfect testing doesn’t guarantee acceptances?

Why do you care? If the question is so idiotic, do not click on the thread.

I’m curious, too. Tell us more, Op.

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, me 20 years ago. Rejected at Harvard and Princeton. Ended up at state flagship.

For free I hope.

Rejections can happen, but they won't happen everywhere!

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Anonymous wrote:If Asian

This. My kid has 1600, 4.0, NMS, ECs, magnet curriculum, 12 APs, full pay, internship and was rejected from some highly selective schools for cs. No biggie. Going to state school with generous merit scholarship, double major, research opportunity etc.

He is getting a new car and 25K from us as a thank you for saving us a ton of money.

So we’re a ton of non-Asian kids with similar stats. CS is probably the most competitive for any kid.

Glad it worked out for him. Hope he enjoys his school (and the car and the cash)! Sounds like a great kid.

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Anonymous wrote:And 20 years ago a 1600 was a much rarer thing. My DD had a 1590 and was rejected from MIT and Brown, waitlisted at Carnegie and Cornell.

That’s not a 1600.

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My older is a rising senior, with an almost 4.0 gpa (she had 2 Bs), 8 APs going into senior yr with all 5s (and will take 6 more AP classes sr year), and a 1600 sat. We’ve been advised by her private college counselor that ivies and like (duke etc) are unrealistic for her, so her reaches are colleges like Wash U which we’re still advised are a long shot.

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Anonymous wrote:My older is a rising senior, with an almost 4.0 gpa (she had 2 Bs), 8 APs going into senior yr with all 5s (and will take 6 more AP classes sr year), and a 1600 sat. We’ve been advised by her private college counselor that ivies and like (duke etc) are unrealistic for her, so her reaches are colleges like Wash U which we’re still advised are a long shot.

Ok, that makes zero sense. Long shot maybe, as for anyone, but must be decent chance for a T-20.

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Anonymous wrote:My older is a rising senior, with an almost 4.0 gpa (she had 2 Bs), 8 APs going into senior yr with all 5s (and will take 6 more AP classes sr year), and a 1600 sat. We’ve been advised by her private college counselor that ivies and like (duke etc) are unrealistic for her, so her reaches are colleges like Wash U which we’re still advised are a long shot.

Ok, that makes zero sense. Long shot maybe, as for anyone, but must be decent chance for a T-20.

Well Wash U is top 20. But counselor says she is a strong candidate but still long shot for Wash U and Emory. DDs first choice was Brown which counselor said was extreme long shot to the point of wasting an ED chance.

DD is in mcps. Apparently many many students in mcps have close to 4.0s, lots of APs and above 1560 sat.

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Anonymous wrote:My older is a rising senior, with an almost 4.0 gpa (she had 2 Bs), 8 APs going into senior yr with all 5s (and will take 6 more AP classes sr year), and a 1600 sat. We’ve been advised by her private college counselor that ivies and like (duke etc) are unrealistic for her, so her reaches are colleges like Wash U which we’re still advised are a long shot.

Ok, that makes zero sense. Long shot maybe, as for anyone, but must be decent chance for a T-20.

Well Wash U is top 20. But counselor says she is a strong candidate but still long shot for Wash U and Emory. DDs first choice was Brown which counselor said was extreme long shot to the point of wasting an ED chance.

DD is in mcps. Apparently many many students in mcps have close to 4.0s, lots of APs and above 1560 sat.

Brown is a long shot for every kid who does not see their last name on a building but some one gets in. She should apply.

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Anonymous wrote:My older is a rising senior, with an almost 4.0 gpa (she had 2 Bs), 8 APs going into senior yr with all 5s (and will take 6 more AP classes sr year), and a 1600 sat. We’ve been advised by her private college counselor that ivies and like (duke etc) are unrealistic for her, so her reaches are colleges like Wash U which we’re still advised are a long shot.

Ok, that makes zero sense. Long shot maybe, as for anyone, but must be decent chance for a T-20.

Well Wash U is top 20. But counselor says she is a strong candidate but still long shot for Wash U and Emory. DDs first choice was Brown which counselor said was extreme long shot to the point of wasting an ED chance.

DD is in mcps. Apparently many many students in mcps have close to 4.0s, lots of APs and above 1560 sat.

IMHO I think that advice is a little extreme

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So what does it take to get into the top schools then? Perfect scores and GPA with good APs, well rounded... what else could they possibly be looking for?