My experience giving up sugar, gluten, and alcohol leaves me with mixed feelings

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Question - will you live longer, or will it just seem like it?


someone once posted on here a link to a BMI calculator that told you if you would live longer statistically based on losing weight. I'm totally butchering the description and of course I can't find it now, sorry!


I’d be curious to see this because a recent and widely reported study on BMI/longevity actually led to the conclusion that people who are mildly overweight actually live the longest. It’s pretty interesting.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-a-few-extra-pounds-help-you-live-longer/



We’ll when I plugged my info in(BMI 24.1), it told me there would not be any longevity benefit to me losing weight.
Anonymous
I have no interest in being fitness-model stunning, but I’m happy for you, OP. Life is short. I want to enjoy some things.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Is it all about looks though? Or is it an investment in your long term health.


But really, is it worth the extra few years? Based on what I have seen, it's not. The people I know who strictly follow this diet are typically not enjoyable to be around, nor are they happy with themselves or the people in their lives. There's a certain personality that prioritizes it to an extreme, I agree that moderation is hard, but it probably is the answer. I am glad you posted, OP. I think it represents what a lot of people think and feel.


Spoken by someone who has never had medical interventions or life threatening diseases. In a decade or so when you're stuffing your face and having a heart attack you'll remember this thread and think "if only..."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it all about looks though? Or is it an investment in your long term health.


But really, is it worth the extra few years? Based on what I have seen, it's not. The people I know who strictly follow this diet are typically not enjoyable to be around, nor are they happy with themselves or the people in their lives. There's a certain personality that prioritizes it to an extreme, I agree that moderation is hard, but it probably is the answer. I am glad you posted, OP. I think it represents what a lot of people think and feel.


Spoken by someone who has never had medical interventions or life threatening diseases. In a decade or so when you're stuffing your face and having a heart attack you'll remember this thread and think "if only..."


You don’t seem happy now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it all about looks though? Or is it an investment in your long term health.


But really, is it worth the extra few years? Based on what I have seen, it's not. The people I know who strictly follow this diet are typically not enjoyable to be around, nor are they happy with themselves or the people in their lives. There's a certain personality that prioritizes it to an extreme, I agree that moderation is hard, but it probably is the answer. I am glad you posted, OP. I think it represents what a lot of people think and feel.


Spoken by someone who has never had medical interventions or life threatening diseases. In a decade or so when you're stuffing your face and having a heart attack you'll remember this thread and think "if only..."


You don’t seem happy now.


Its you who has to worry
Anonymous
Instead of dieting all the time I’m going to do a modified 5 day fast every few months for health and longevity benefits. I’m not super thin but it’s kept my weight in check. This is from Dr Walter longo’s extensive, decades long research into longevity and health span. Rest of his recommendations are also easy for me 90 pct of the time…a pescatarian diet with a lot of veggies and legumes, fats from nuts avocado etc. healthy carbs included. Not high protein (which has undesirable effects in terms of aging cancer etc). Moderate zone 3-3 exercise. Occasional wine, it’s s lifestyle that’s sustainable . I probably eat more dairy and the occasional red or white mean than recommended but doesn’t seem to bother me and I really prefer a more plant based diet. Cutting sugar and refined flour was key but I’ve been doing that for a year anyway, slowly. I do eat real
Fermented sourdough bread (1pc a day with avocado tomato olive oil spinach and cukes..,hmmm) but no snacks. I eat 2-3 times a day max.

Since doing this 4 months (one full fast cycle and doing my second now) I’ve lost 6 lbs (126 to 120); skin looks good
(I get rosacea) ; digestive issues better (also added pro and prebiotic) and my cholesterol dropped into normal after being chronically high (family history) with a drop in ldl and increase in Hdl.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Instead of dieting all the time I’m going to do a modified 5 day fast every few months for health and longevity benefits. I’m not super thin but it’s kept my weight in check. This is from Dr Walter longo’s extensive, decades long research into longevity and health span. Rest of his recommendations are also easy for me 90 pct of the time…a pescatarian diet with a lot of veggies and legumes, fats from nuts avocado etc. healthy carbs included. Not high protein (which has undesirable effects in terms of aging cancer etc). Moderate zone 3-3 exercise. Occasional wine, it’s s lifestyle that’s sustainable . I probably eat more dairy and the occasional red or white mean than recommended but doesn’t seem to bother me and I really prefer a more plant based diet. Cutting sugar and refined flour was key but I’ve been doing that for a year anyway, slowly. I do eat real
Fermented sourdough bread (1pc a day with avocado tomato olive oil spinach and cukes..,hmmm) but no snacks. I eat 2-3 times a day max.

Since doing this 4 months (one full fast cycle and doing my second now) I’ve lost 6 lbs (126 to 120); skin looks good
(I get rosacea) ; digestive issues better (also added pro and prebiotic) and my cholesterol dropped into normal after being chronically high (family history) with a drop in ldl and increase in Hdl.


120 lb is pretty thin unless you’re short
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Question - will you live longer, or will it just seem like it?


someone once posted on here a link to a BMI calculator that told you if you would live longer statistically based on losing weight. I'm totally butchering the description and of course I can't find it now, sorry!


I’d be curious to see this because a recent and widely reported study on BMI/longevity actually led to the conclusion that people who are mildly overweight actually live the longest. It’s pretty interesting.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-a-few-extra-pounds-help-you-live-longer/



We’ll when I plugged my info in(BMI 24.1), it told me there would not be any longevity benefit to me losing weight.


My BMI is the same. My doctor says I’m at a healthy weight. I’d like to lose a few pounds - I don’t love the changes perimenopause is creating - but I also want to enjoy my life. Cutting out sugar, alcohol, and gluten would reduce that enjoyment for me, but YMMV.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So your take is eat poison (sugar) and drink poison (alcohol) because it is ‘fun’….. do you think you’ve been brainwashed at all while you exist in this matrix?


Sugar and alcohol are not "poison." Dear lord. Come back off the ledge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it all about looks though? Or is it an investment in your long term health.


But really, is it worth the extra few years? Based on what I have seen, it's not. The people I know who strictly follow this diet are typically not enjoyable to be around, nor are they happy with themselves or the people in their lives. There's a certain personality that prioritizes it to an extreme, I agree that moderation is hard, but it probably is the answer. I am glad you posted, OP. I think it represents what a lot of people think and feel.


Spoken by someone who has never had medical interventions or life threatening diseases. In a decade or so when you're stuffing your face and having a heart attack you'll remember this thread and think "if only..."


You don’t seem happy now.


Its you who has to worry


I don’t think so. When I used the link above, it said I didn’t have to lose weight. And I’m clearly a happier, more content person than you are. You should work on that. You have a limited amount of time on this little planet. Spending it miserable is a waste.
Anonymous
Instead of dieting all the time I’m going to do a modified 5 day fast every few months for health and longevity benefits. I’m not super thin but it’s kept my weight in check. This is from Dr Walter longo’s extensive, decades long research into longevity and health span. Rest of his recommendations are also easy for me 90 pct of the time…a pescatarian diet with a lot of veggies and legumes, fats from nuts avocado etc. healthy carbs included. Not high protein (which has undesirable effects in terms of aging cancer etc). Moderate zone 3-3 exercise. Occasional wine, it’s s lifestyle that’s sustainable . I probably eat more dairy and the occasional red or white mean than recommended but doesn’t seem to bother me and I really prefer a more plant based diet. Cutting sugar and refined flour was key but I’ve been doing that for a year anyway, slowly. I do eat real
Fermented sourdough bread (1pc a day with avocado tomato olive oil spinach and cukes..,hmmm) but no snacks. I eat 2-3 times a day max.

Since doing this 4 months (one full fast cycle and doing my second now) I’ve lost 6 lbs (126 to 120); skin looks good
(I get rosacea) ; digestive issues better (also added pro and prebiotic) and my cholesterol dropped into normal after being chronically high (family history) with a drop in ldl and increase in Hdl.


120 lb is pretty thin unless you’re short


I round up to 5'2"! So 120 is a heathy weight but not thin. I actually dont want to lose weight, just build some muscle-my face is good right now. I lost some weight a few years ago due to illness and I looked really drawn. I guess its true,after 40 (50?) you choose between face and ass...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Question - will you live longer, or will it just seem like it?


someone once posted on here a link to a BMI calculator that told you if you would live longer statistically based on losing weight. I'm totally butchering the description and of course I can't find it now, sorry!


I’d be curious to see this because a recent and widely reported study on BMI/longevity actually led to the conclusion that people who are mildly overweight actually live the longest. It’s pretty interesting.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-a-few-extra-pounds-help-you-live-longer/



We’ll when I plugged my info in(BMI 24.1), it told me there would not be any longevity benefit to me losing weight.


My BMI is the same. My doctor says I’m at a healthy weight. I’d like to lose a few pounds - I don’t love the changes perimenopause is creating - but I also want to enjoy my life. Cutting out sugar, alcohol, and gluten would reduce that enjoyment for me, but YMMV.


I concluded the same a few years ago. There is no benefit to me to being 5-10 lb thinner. The work I’d have to do to maintain it would make me miserable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it all about looks though? Or is it an investment in your long term health.


But really, is it worth the extra few years? Based on what I have seen, it's not. The people I know who strictly follow this diet are typically not enjoyable to be around, nor are they happy with themselves or the people in their lives. There's a certain personality that prioritizes it to an extreme, I agree that moderation is hard, but it probably is the answer. I am glad you posted, OP. I think it represents what a lot of people think and feel.


Spoken by someone who has never had medical interventions or life threatening diseases. In a decade or so when you're stuffing your face and having a heart attack you'll remember this thread and think "if only..."


You don’t seem happy now.


Its you who has to worry


I don’t think so. When I used the link above, it said I didn’t have to lose weight. And I’m clearly a happier, more content person than you are. You should work on that. You have a limited amount of time on this little planet. Spending it miserable is a waste.


Weight is not everything. Healthy eating is healthy eating. You likely are a perfect weight but with horrible rotting internal organs.

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