Maga opposition to expertise?

[Anonymous]

Probably has its roots in anti-semitism. Rootless cosmopolitan elitists and all of that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not that they don’t trust experts, they have a mega distrust of the establishment. That’s the pull of Trump.

It’s not about Trump. It’s about him pointing out the hypocrisy.

Global warming: “TURN YOUR THERMOSTATS DOWN” they say. Then get caught with their’s cranked to 78. “He’s from Hawaii”. Private jet? “He/she is more important than you, so needs to fly private”. Telling us how oppressed and oppressive we are in the US when the countries they support enslave other people. Sending our hard-earned FINITE tax dollars to other nations while our own go hungry and live on the streets. Tell us we don’t have a right to our guns but they do because, again, they are more important than us so need protection. And as a hard example, jailing a 70+ year old Bodega worker in Rikers on high bail for stabbing a man with a past violent criminal record, who was beating the crap out of him. All caught on video, mind you, so we know the worker was not lying. It was only due to MAGA outrage that the Bodega worker was finally treated fairly by Democrats.

But that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm not going to take up smoking because some politicians/bureaucrats/authorities are telling me not to smoke while lighting a cigarette behind closed doors. I'll think they are stupid, but I'm not going to jeopardize my own health and well being because of their stupidity.

Are MAGA people that manipulable? Do they all suffer from oppositional defiance disorder? Can we get them to change their behavior by telling them to do the opposite?

Do you always follow rules others set up for you that they exempt themselves from? You don’t question it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not that they don’t trust experts, they have a mega distrust of the establishment. That’s the pull of Trump.

It’s not about Trump. It’s about him pointing out the hypocrisy.

Global warming: “TURN YOUR THERMOSTATS DOWN” they say. Then get caught with their’s cranked to 78. “He’s from Hawaii”. Private jet? “He/she is more important than you, so needs to fly private”. Telling us how oppressed and oppressive we are in the US when the countries they support enslave other people. Sending our hard-earned FINITE tax dollars to other nations while our own go hungry and live on the streets. Tell us we don’t have a right to our guns but they do because, again, they are more important than us so need protection. And as a hard example, jailing a 70+ year old Bodega worker in Rikers on high bail for stabbing a man with a past violent criminal record, who was beating the crap out of him. All caught on video, mind you, so we know the worker was not lying. It was only due to MAGA outrage that the Bodega worker was finally treated fairly by Democrats.

But that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm not going to take up smoking because some politicians/bureaucrats/authorities are telling me not to smoke while lighting a cigarette behind closed doors. I'll think they are stupid, but I'm not going to jeopardize my own health and well being because of their stupidity.

Are MAGA people that manipulable? Do they all suffer from oppositional defiance disorder? Can we get them to change their behavior by telling them to do the opposite?

Do you always follow rules others set up for you that they exempt themselves from? You don’t question it?

That's quite a straw man you built there. Nice work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not that they don’t trust experts, they have a mega distrust of the establishment. That’s the pull of Trump.

It’s not about Trump. It’s about him pointing out the hypocrisy.

Global warming: “TURN YOUR THERMOSTATS DOWN” they say. Then get caught with their’s cranked to 78. “He’s from Hawaii”. Private jet? “He/she is more important than you, so needs to fly private”. Telling us how oppressed and oppressive we are in the US when the countries they support enslave other people. Sending our hard-earned FINITE tax dollars to other nations while our own go hungry and live on the streets. Tell us we don’t have a right to our guns but they do because, again, they are more important than us so need protection. And as a hard example, jailing a 70+ year old Bodega worker in Rikers on high bail for stabbing a man with a past violent criminal record, who was beating the crap out of him. All caught on video, mind you, so we know the worker was not lying. It was only due to MAGA outrage that the Bodega worker was finally treated fairly by Democrats.

But that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm not going to take up smoking because some politicians/bureaucrats/authorities are telling me not to smoke while lighting a cigarette behind closed doors. I'll think they are stupid, but I'm not going to jeopardize my own health and well being because of their stupidity.

Are MAGA people that manipulable? Do they all suffer from oppositional defiance disorder? Can we get them to change their behavior by telling them to do the opposite?

Do you always follow rules others set up for you that they exempt themselves from? You don’t question it?

That's quite a straw man you built there. Nice work.

Yeah, must be embarrassing to be bested by a stupid MAGA person I mean who believes a man telling you that the seas are rising at an alarming rate so you have to change YOUR behavior, then buys TWO expensive beach front properties? Even Obama doesn't believe his own crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not that they don’t trust experts, they have a mega distrust of the establishment. That’s the pull of Trump.

It’s not about Trump. It’s about him pointing out the hypocrisy.

Global warming: “TURN YOUR THERMOSTATS DOWN” they say. Then get caught with their’s cranked to 78. “He’s from Hawaii”. Private jet? “He/she is more important than you, so needs to fly private”. Telling us how oppressed and oppressive we are in the US when the countries they support enslave other people. Sending our hard-earned FINITE tax dollars to other nations while our own go hungry and live on the streets. Tell us we don’t have a right to our guns but they do because, again, they are more important than us so need protection. And as a hard example, jailing a 70+ year old Bodega worker in Rikers on high bail for stabbing a man with a past violent criminal record, who was beating the crap out of him. All caught on video, mind you, so we know the worker was not lying. It was only due to MAGA outrage that the Bodega worker was finally treated fairly by Democrats.

But that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm not going to take up smoking because some politicians/bureaucrats/authorities are telling me not to smoke while lighting a cigarette behind closed doors. I'll think they are stupid, but I'm not going to jeopardize my own health and well being because of their stupidity.

Are MAGA people that manipulable? Do they all suffer from oppositional defiance disorder? Can we get them to change their behavior by telling them to do the opposite?

Do you always follow rules others set up for you that they exempt themselves from? You don’t question it?

When it comes to health and safety, I follow rules that I know make sense and that are based on science and research. I don't follow or ignore them based on whether the people who write them or pass them into law follow them. Why would I? What a ridiculous thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not that they don’t trust experts, they have a mega distrust of the establishment. That’s the pull of Trump.

It’s not about Trump. It’s about him pointing out the hypocrisy.

Global warming: “TURN YOUR THERMOSTATS DOWN” they say. Then get caught with their’s cranked to 78. “He’s from Hawaii”. Private jet? “He/she is more important than you, so needs to fly private”. Telling us how oppressed and oppressive we are in the US when the countries they support enslave other people. Sending our hard-earned FINITE tax dollars to other nations while our own go hungry and live on the streets. Tell us we don’t have a right to our guns but they do because, again, they are more important than us so need protection. And as a hard example, jailing a 70+ year old Bodega worker in Rikers on high bail for stabbing a man with a past violent criminal record, who was beating the crap out of him. All caught on video, mind you, so we know the worker was not lying. It was only due to MAGA outrage that the Bodega worker was finally treated fairly by Democrats.

But that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm not going to take up smoking because some politicians/bureaucrats/authorities are telling me not to smoke while lighting a cigarette behind closed doors. I'll think they are stupid, but I'm not going to jeopardize my own health and well being because of their stupidity.

Are MAGA people that manipulable? Do they all suffer from oppositional defiance disorder? Can we get them to change their behavior by telling them to do the opposite?

Do you always follow rules others set up for you that they exempt themselves from? You don’t question it?

That's quite a straw man you built there. Nice work.

Yeah, must be embarrassing to be bested by a stupid MAGA person I mean who believes a man telling you that the seas are rising at an alarming rate so you have to change YOUR behavior, then buys TWO expensive beach front properties? Even Obama doesn't believe his own crap.

Some of us have a conscience and follow it. No matter what others do. Again, you sound highly manipulable. You apparently base your decisions in opposition to what other people do, rather than on your own principles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not that they don’t trust experts, they have a mega distrust of the establishment. That’s the pull of Trump.

It’s not about Trump. It’s about him pointing out the hypocrisy.

Global warming: “TURN YOUR THERMOSTATS DOWN” they say. Then get caught with their’s cranked to 78. “He’s from Hawaii”. Private jet? “He/she is more important than you, so needs to fly private”. Telling us how oppressed and oppressive we are in the US when the countries they support enslave other people. Sending our hard-earned FINITE tax dollars to other nations while our own go hungry and live on the streets. Tell us we don’t have a right to our guns but they do because, again, they are more important than us so need protection. And as a hard example, jailing a 70+ year old Bodega worker in Rikers on high bail for stabbing a man with a past violent criminal record, who was beating the crap out of him. All caught on video, mind you, so we know the worker was not lying. It was only due to MAGA outrage that the Bodega worker was finally treated fairly by Democrats.

But that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm not going to take up smoking because some politicians/bureaucrats/authorities are telling me not to smoke while lighting a cigarette behind closed doors. I'll think they are stupid, but I'm not going to jeopardize my own health and well being because of their stupidity.

Are MAGA people that manipulable? Do they all suffer from oppositional defiance disorder? Can we get them to change their behavior by telling them to do the opposite?

Do you always follow rules others set up for you that they exempt themselves from? You don’t question it?

That's quite a straw man you built there. Nice work.

Yeah, must be embarrassing to be bested by a stupid MAGA person I mean who believes a man telling you that the seas are rising at an alarming rate so you have to change YOUR behavior, then buys TWO expensive beach front properties? Even Obama doesn't believe his own crap.

Some of us have a conscience and follow it. No matter what others do. Again, you sound highly manipulable. You apparently base your decisions in opposition to what other people do, rather than on your own principles.

The title of this thread speaks of expertise. The people who are stating they are experts and to follow their rules, again, don't follow the same rules themselves. A true expert would not behave that way. Another example - all the parties liberals in authority threw, with them unmasked but the help, masked.

[Anonymous]

There are a lot of delusional fools in the world. Demagogues and conmen know how to find them and wind them up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not that they don’t trust experts, they have a mega distrust of the establishment. That’s the pull of Trump.

It’s not about Trump. It’s about him pointing out the hypocrisy.

Global warming: “TURN YOUR THERMOSTATS DOWN” they say. Then get caught with their’s cranked to 78. “He’s from Hawaii”. Private jet? “He/she is more important than you, so needs to fly private”. Telling us how oppressed and oppressive we are in the US when the countries they support enslave other people. Sending our hard-earned FINITE tax dollars to other nations while our own go hungry and live on the streets. Tell us we don’t have a right to our guns but they do because, again, they are more important than us so need protection. And as a hard example, jailing a 70+ year old Bodega worker in Rikers on high bail for stabbing a man with a past violent criminal record, who was beating the crap out of him. All caught on video, mind you, so we know the worker was not lying. It was only due to MAGA outrage that the Bodega worker was finally treated fairly by Democrats.

But that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm not going to take up smoking because some politicians/bureaucrats/authorities are telling me not to smoke while lighting a cigarette behind closed doors. I'll think they are stupid, but I'm not going to jeopardize my own health and well being because of their stupidity.

Are MAGA people that manipulable? Do they all suffer from oppositional defiance disorder? Can we get them to change their behavior by telling them to do the opposite?

Do you always follow rules others set up for you that they exempt themselves from? You don’t question it?

That's quite a straw man you built there. Nice work.

Yeah, must be embarrassing to be bested by a stupid MAGA person I mean who believes a man telling you that the seas are rising at an alarming rate so you have to change YOUR behavior, then buys TWO expensive beach front properties? Even Obama doesn't believe his own crap.

Some of us have a conscience and follow it. No matter what others do. Again, you sound highly manipulable. You apparently base your decisions in opposition to what other people do, rather than on your own principles.

The title of this thread speaks of expertise. The people who are stating they are experts and to follow their rules, again, don't follow the same rules themselves. A true expert would not behave that way. Another example - all the parties liberals in authority threw, with them unmasked but the help, masked.

So I'm sure you are very sick and tired of all the "moral majority", "family values" GOP politicians who have been caught committing adultery or, much worse, who are pedophiles. Right? Or who vote against any assistance to the poor, for children etc.? Right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Could some of the Maga opposition to expertise (scientists, economists, medical workers, etc) be rooted in racism and mysogyny?

They are increasingly encountering doctors, nurses, etc who are nonwhite and/or female instea of the white Christian male they've been brainwashed to worship so is the issue for them really the fact that Dr. Jha is not Dr. John Wayne?

The racial composition of the cultural war is not white vs non-white. It's white, se asian, indian vs black and majority of hispanics. Statisically I'd have more confidence in an asian doctor because of how hard they had to work to succeed in an academic system that actively discriminates against them on the basis of their race.

[Anonymous]

I’ve often wondered about the reason for this. I think part of the problem is a confusion about discerning between expertise and expressions of arrogance. So a scientist discussing climate change or Covid is not the same as a politician and MAGA doesn’t make the distinction. And let’s face it, there are a lot of arrogant jerks in government who come off as holier than thou.

Also, an inability to understand that what we understand in science is ever-evolving and therefore “changes” as people learn more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve often wondered about the reason for this. I think part of the problem is a confusion about discerning between expertise and expressions of arrogance. So a scientist discussing climate change or Covid is not the same as a politician and MAGA doesn’t make the distinction. And let’s face it, there are a lot of arrogant jerks in government who come off as holier than thou.

Also, an inability to understand that what we understand in science is ever-evolving and therefore “changes” as people learn more.

That's what makes it bizarre when the right wing tries to pretend science is somehow a religion. In science you get to learn new things, it's based on observation, testing and measuring, and it's continually evolving. But religion is based entirely on dogma and you cannot observe, test, measure or even question any of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not that they don’t trust experts, they have a mega distrust of the establishment. That’s the pull of Trump.

It’s not about Trump. It’s about him pointing out the hypocrisy.

Global warming: “TURN YOUR THERMOSTATS DOWN” they say. Then get caught with their’s cranked to 78. “He’s from Hawaii”. Private jet? “He/she is more important than you, so needs to fly private”. Telling us how oppressed and oppressive we are in the US when the countries they support enslave other people. Sending our hard-earned FINITE tax dollars to other nations while our own go hungry and live on the streets. Tell us we don’t have a right to our guns but they do because, again, they are more important than us so need protection. And as a hard example, jailing a 70+ year old Bodega worker in Rikers on high bail for stabbing a man with a past violent criminal record, who was beating the crap out of him. All caught on video, mind you, so we know the worker was not lying. It was only due to MAGA outrage that the Bodega worker was finally treated fairly by Democrats.

But that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm not going to take up smoking because some politicians/bureaucrats/authorities are telling me not to smoke while lighting a cigarette behind closed doors. I'll think they are stupid, but I'm not going to jeopardize my own health and well being because of their stupidity.

Are MAGA people that manipulable? Do they all suffer from oppositional defiance disorder? Can we get them to change their behavior by telling them to do the opposite?

Do you always follow rules others set up for you that they exempt themselves from? You don’t question it?

That's quite a straw man you built there. Nice work.

Yeah, must be embarrassing to be bested by a stupid MAGA person I mean who believes a man telling you that the seas are rising at an alarming rate so you have to change YOUR behavior, then buys TWO expensive beach front properties? Even Obama doesn't believe his own crap.

Anyone who thinks climate change is a hoax doesn't even have any business being on a thread about expertise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not that they don’t trust experts, they have a mega distrust of the establishment. That’s the pull of Trump.

It’s not about Trump. It’s about him pointing out the hypocrisy.

Global warming: “TURN YOUR THERMOSTATS DOWN” they say. Then get caught with their’s cranked to 78. “He’s from Hawaii”. Private jet? “He/she is more important than you, so needs to fly private”. Telling us how oppressed and oppressive we are in the US when the countries they support enslave other people. Sending our hard-earned FINITE tax dollars to other nations while our own go hungry and live on the streets. Tell us we don’t have a right to our guns but they do because, again, they are more important than us so need protection. And as a hard example, jailing a 70+ year old Bodega worker in Rikers on high bail for stabbing a man with a past violent criminal record, who was beating the crap out of him. All caught on video, mind you, so we know the worker was not lying. It was only due to MAGA outrage that the Bodega worker was finally treated fairly by Democrats.

But that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm not going to take up smoking because some politicians/bureaucrats/authorities are telling me not to smoke while lighting a cigarette behind closed doors. I'll think they are stupid, but I'm not going to jeopardize my own health and well being because of their stupidity.

Are MAGA people that manipulable? Do they all suffer from oppositional defiance disorder? Can we get them to change their behavior by telling them to do the opposite?

Do you always follow rules others set up for you that they exempt themselves from? You don’t question it?

That's quite a straw man you built there. Nice work.

Yeah, must be embarrassing to be bested by a stupid MAGA person I mean who believes a man telling you that the seas are rising at an alarming rate so you have to change YOUR behavior, then buys TWO expensive beach front properties? Even Obama doesn't believe his own crap.

Some of us have a conscience and follow it. No matter what others do. Again, you sound highly manipulable. You apparently base your decisions in opposition to what other people do, rather than on your own principles.

The title of this thread speaks of expertise. The people who are stating they are experts and to follow their rules, again, don't follow the same rules themselves. A true expert would not behave that way. Another example - all the parties liberals in authority threw, with them unmasked but the help, masked.

Are you talking about Boris Johnson, soon-to-be former Conservative Prime Minister of UK?

[Anonymous]

No it has nothing to do with that and everything to do with the "experts" being wrong on just about everything these days.