New boss at CNN attempts to moderate the network

Anonymous
Too late. The Clown News Network lost credibility long ago. The minute Fredo and his weird bromance with Don Lemon was aired you knew it was a clown show
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My issue with the D's use of "the big lie" is that historically, that phrase was used by Hitler and Nazi propagandists. I find it odd and troubling that the Ds use the precise phrasing as Nazi propagandists and agree with the new CNN boss that "Trump's election lie" is more appropriate and less bizarre.


You're confused on the usage. Nazi propagandists made use of Die Große Lüge as a tactic. It was not something that they used as phrasing. By big lie, they referred to jumping straight to a huge and outlandish lie to short-circuit the minds of the masses and repeating that huge lie consistently and ubiquitously to the point where they believe it.

And that is exactly what Trump did - told a huge outlandish lie, that he won by a landslide, and that there was a massive corrupt coordinated effort to steal it from him. It was in fact a big lie.

Call it what it is. And read your history so that you aren't coming here confused with "issues" that you misunderstood in the first place.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My issue with the D's use of "the big lie" is that historically, that phrase was used by Hitler and Nazi propagandists. I find it odd and troubling that the Ds use the precise phrasing as Nazi propagandists and agree with the new CNN boss that "Trump's election lie" is more appropriate and less bizarre.


Agree. But lie doesn’t include the huge amount of money he raised off a lie, so fraud is more accurate



I think they stick with lie because fraud has legal implications, and they are trying to skirt issues with defamation.


Oh, the Trump legal fraud stuff is yet to come. It was a lie AND it was fraud.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Too late. The Clown News Network lost credibility long ago. The minute Fredo and his weird bromance with Don Lemon was aired you knew it was a clown show

This you, PP?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My issue with the D's use of "the big lie" is that historically, that phrase was used by Hitler and Nazi propagandists. I find it odd and troubling that the Ds use the precise phrasing as Nazi propagandists and agree with the new CNN boss that "Trump's election lie" is more appropriate and less bizarre.


You're confused on the usage. Nazi propagandists made use of Die Große Lüge as a tactic. It was not something that they used as phrasing. By big lie, they referred to jumping straight to a huge and outlandish lie to short-circuit the minds of the masses and repeating that huge lie consistently and ubiquitously to the point where they believe it.

And that is exactly what Trump did - told a huge outlandish lie, that he won by a landslide, and that there was a massive corrupt coordinated effort to steal it from him. It was in fact a big lie.

Call it what it is. And read your history so that you aren't coming here confused with "issues" that you misunderstood in the first place.


Does not matter the underlying story and real history. The population does not care or have the time to get the real story. The Big Lie was was slogan of the Nazis and optics are everything.

The fact that Paul Revere is famous for the British are coming warning while in fact he was captured before warning anyone is irrelevant. His name rhymes better in poem and that is what we remember.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Too late. The Clown News Network lost credibility long ago. The minute Fredo and his weird bromance with Don Lemon was aired you knew it was a clown show


No if you take anything CNN should just make things up like Fox News does. That’s the model. Make your network a propaganda outlet for the Republican Party and you are good to go. Unbiased news is dead.
Anonymous
CNN already has a slight right-bias. If anything they need to bring more strident Progressives into the newsroom
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CNN already has a slight right-bias. If anything they need to bring more strident Progressives into the newsroom


Try harder. Dont waste our time with this amateur troll stuff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Too late. The Clown News Network lost credibility long ago. The minute Fredo and his weird bromance with Don Lemon was aired you knew it was a clown show


"Clown show" says a clown who watches FOX, Newsmax and OANN
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My issue with the D's use of "the big lie" is that historically, that phrase was used by Hitler and Nazi propagandists. I find it odd and troubling that the Ds use the precise phrasing as Nazi propagandists and agree with the new CNN boss that "Trump's election lie" is more appropriate and less bizarre.


You're confused on the usage. Nazi propagandists made use of Die Große Lüge as a tactic. It was not something that they used as phrasing. By big lie, they referred to jumping straight to a huge and outlandish lie to short-circuit the minds of the masses and repeating that huge lie consistently and ubiquitously to the point where they believe it.

And that is exactly what Trump did - told a huge outlandish lie, that he won by a landslide, and that there was a massive corrupt coordinated effort to steal it from him. It was in fact a big lie.

Call it what it is. And read your history so that you aren't coming here confused with "issues" that you misunderstood in the first place.


No, you are distorting history. In Mein Kampf, Hitler, who went on to lead the Nazis, described "the big lie" (die grosse luege, since you insist on using german, which I can do all day) as the belief, which Hitler said was spread by Jews, that Germany lost WWI due to the failures of German general Erich Ludendorff.

It was not, as you suggest, Hitler's idea to say "hey guys, lets make up crazy stuff so people believe it!" You may be using it that way in a contemporary fashion, but that is not how it was used by Nazi propagandists or by Hitler.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too late. The Clown News Network lost credibility long ago. The minute Fredo and his weird bromance with Don Lemon was aired you knew it was a clown show


"Clown show" says a clown who watches FOX, Newsmax and OANN



No one watches OANN anymore.


Fox, newsmax, NY Post, Daily Mail, and the Daily Wire

And as much as Ds on this forum love to hate Tucker Carlson, the most searched for political commentator on the internet is actually Ben Shapiro. And by that I mean, most of either party.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My issue with the D's use of "the big lie" is that historically, that phrase was used by Hitler and Nazi propagandists. I find it odd and troubling that the Ds use the precise phrasing as Nazi propagandists and agree with the new CNN boss that "Trump's election lie" is more appropriate and less bizarre.


You're confused on the usage. Nazi propagandists made use of Die Große Lüge as a tactic. It was not something that they used as phrasing. By big lie, they referred to jumping straight to a huge and outlandish lie to short-circuit the minds of the masses and repeating that huge lie consistently and ubiquitously to the point where they believe it.

And that is exactly what Trump did - told a huge outlandish lie, that he won by a landslide, and that there was a massive corrupt coordinated effort to steal it from him. It was in fact a big lie.

Call it what it is. And read your history so that you aren't coming here confused with "issues" that you misunderstood in the first place.


No, you are distorting history. In Mein Kampf, Hitler, who went on to lead the Nazis, described "the big lie" (die grosse luege, since you insist on using german, which I can do all day) as the belief, which Hitler said was spread by Jews, that Germany lost WWI due to the failures of German general Erich Ludendorff.

It was not, as you suggest, Hitler's idea to say "hey guys, lets make up crazy stuff so people believe it!" You may be using it that way in a contemporary fashion, but that is not how it was used by Nazi propagandists or by Hitler.


Regardless of history, Trump absolutely did fabricate and tell a big lie. And he told it repeatedly, with every single opportunity he had. And that big lie gave rise to a violent movement that attacked the US Capitol on 1/6. Trying to smear and malign people as "Nazis" for stating the truth and fact of it being a big lie doesn't cut it. Do better. Don't attack the truth as it only makes you part of the lie.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too late. The Clown News Network lost credibility long ago. The minute Fredo and his weird bromance with Don Lemon was aired you knew it was a clown show


"Clown show" says a clown who watches FOX, Newsmax and OANN



No one watches OANN anymore.


Fox, newsmax, NY Post, Daily Mail, and the Daily Wire

And as much as Ds on this forum love to hate Tucker Carlson, the most searched for political commentator on the internet is actually Ben Shapiro. And by that I mean, most of either party.


Fox, Newsmax, NY Post, Daily Mail and Daily Wire are all trash, as are Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro. Anyone who thinks they are honest or respectable media while sneering at CNN needs their heads examined.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My issue with the D's use of "the big lie" is that historically, that phrase was used by Hitler and Nazi propagandists. I find it odd and troubling that the Ds use the precise phrasing as Nazi propagandists and agree with the new CNN boss that "Trump's election lie" is more appropriate and less bizarre.


You're confused on the usage. Nazi propagandists made use of Die Große Lüge as a tactic. It was not something that they used as phrasing. By big lie, they referred to jumping straight to a huge and outlandish lie to short-circuit the minds of the masses and repeating that huge lie consistently and ubiquitously to the point where they believe it.

And that is exactly what Trump did - told a huge outlandish lie, that he won by a landslide, and that there was a massive corrupt coordinated effort to steal it from him. It was in fact a big lie.

Call it what it is. And read your history so that you aren't coming here confused with "issues" that you misunderstood in the first place.


No, you are distorting history. In Mein Kampf, Hitler, who went on to lead the Nazis, described "the big lie" (die grosse luege, since you insist on using german, which I can do all day) as the belief, which Hitler said was spread by Jews, that Germany lost WWI due to the failures of German general Erich Ludendorff.

It was not, as you suggest, Hitler's idea to say "hey guys, lets make up crazy stuff so people believe it!" You may be using it that way in a contemporary fashion, but that is not how it was used by Nazi propagandists or by Hitler.


Regardless of history, Trump absolutely did fabricate and tell a big lie. And he told it repeatedly, with every single opportunity he had. And that big lie gave rise to a violent movement that attacked the US Capitol on 1/6. Trying to smear and malign people as "Nazis" for stating the truth and fact of it being a big lie doesn't cut it. Do better. Don't attack the truth as it only makes you part of the lie.


I never called anyone Nazis, nor did I discuss the veracity of Trump's election claims. I said it's odd and disturbing for the left to use the exact phrase as Hitler, and that it's bizarre that they think this is a good tactic given the history. The VW car company doesnt use the slogan, "as conceived by Hitler!" as a slogan... for a reason. Weird and unappealing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CNN already has a slight right-bias. If anything they need to bring more strident Progressives into the newsroom



Good one!
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