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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My issue with the D's use of "the big lie" is that historically, that phrase was used by Hitler and Nazi propagandists.  I find it odd and troubling that the Ds use the precise phrasing as Nazi propagandists and agree with the new CNN boss that "Trump's election lie" is more appropriate and less bizarre.[/quote]

You're confused on the usage.  Nazi propagandists [i]made use of[/i] Die Große Lüge as a tactic.  It was not something that they used as phrasing.  By big lie, they referred to jumping straight to a huge and outlandish lie to short-circuit the minds of the masses and repeating that huge lie consistently and ubiquitously to the point where they believe it.

And that is exactly what Trump did - told a huge outlandish lie, that he won by a landslide, and that there was a massive corrupt coordinated effort to steal it from him.  It was in fact a big lie.

Call it what it is.  And read your history so that you aren't coming here confused with "issues" that you misunderstood in the first place.[/quote]

No, you are distorting history. In Mein Kampf, Hitler, who went on to lead the Nazis, described "the big lie" (die grosse luege, since you insist on using german, which I can do all day) as the belief, which Hitler said was spread by Jews, that Germany lost WWI due to the failures of German general Erich Ludendorff.

It was not, as you suggest, Hitler's idea to say "hey guys, lets make up crazy stuff so people believe it!" You may be using it that way in a contemporary fashion, but that is not how it was used by Nazi propagandists or by Hitler.  [/quote]

Regardless of history, Trump absolutely did fabricate and tell a big lie.  And he told it repeatedly, with every single opportunity he had.  And that big lie gave rise to a violent movement that attacked the US Capitol on 1/6.  Trying to smear and malign people as "Nazis" for stating the truth and fact of it being a big lie doesn't cut it.  Do better.  Don't attack the truth as it only makes you part of the lie.[/quote]

I never called anyone Nazis, nor did I discuss the veracity of Trump's election claims. I said it's odd and disturbing for the left to use the exact phrase as Hitler, and that it's bizarre that they think this is a good tactic given the history. The VW car company doesnt use the slogan, "as conceived by Hitler!" as a slogan... for a reason. Weird and unappealing. [/quote]

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