I'm seriously considering taking my kids out of public school

[Anonymous]

High great school ratings help avoid this

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Congrats, OP, for turning this tragedy into being all about you.

Dp. This is about all of us. The fact of the matter is that, in America, we *could* be victims in a mass shooting. Pp's statical analysis of risk doesn't comfort me. However rare (statistically), the fact remains that mass shootings can and do happen anywhere at any time. Excuse op and me for being upset and wanting to protect our kids.

Some of us care about other people's kids.

Every time something like this happens, you can count on DCUM moms to start posts about how this affects THEM. No thought is ever given to how it affects others.

WTH are you even talking about?

Ignore the troll. She always comments about people being selfish blah blah blah. I have been considering private for a long time. What is even sicker is these shooters killed their own families!

I'm not being a troll. I'm saying what I honestly think. Instead of thinking only of yourself, think about what you can do to help others. Putting your kid in a private schools accomplishes nothing for anyone else, and probably nothing for yourself as well. You're kidding yourself.

So then tell us what to do to “help others.” This impacts ALL OF US. I don’t see how you can possibly think this reaction is selfish.

NP. The PP is just an idiot troll. Better not to engage.

OP, when Sandy Hook happened my kid was in the exact same grade. I remember driving to school and being one of several parents who pulled their kid from school. There were a few more kids than usual who left for private that year, and they were all kids of parents who were waiting with me to pull their kids early. I think your reaction is pretty common.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, if switching makes you feel safer, you should switch. But your best bet is to keep your kids out of gangs/crews and don’t have a gun in your house.

Recent data:

New England J of Med (April 2022)

Leading Causes of Death among Children and Adolescents in the United States, 1999 through 2020.
The previous analysis, which examined data through 2016, showed that firearm-related injuries were second only to motor vehicle crashes (both traffic-related and nontraffic-related) as the leading cause of death among children and adolescents, defined as persons 1 to 19 years of age.4 Since 2016, that gap has narrowed, and in 2020, firearm-related injuries became the leading cause of death in that age group (Figure 1). From 2019 to 2020, the relative increase in the rate of firearm-related deaths of all types (suicide, homicide, unintentional, and undetermined) among children and adolescents was 29.5% — more than twice as high as the relative increase in the general population. The increase was seen across most demographic characteristics and types of firearm-related death (Fig. S1 in the Supplementary Appendix, available with the full text of this letter at NEJM.org).

OP here. DH has a Ph.D. in statistics. You could look at the stats until you're blue in the face, but ultimately you need to do what feels right. And private feels right. I don't like the comparison to lightning strikes. How often do we hear about lightning strikes on the news or even around the world? I have lived in SO MANY of the cities where mass shootings have taken place. It feels like a small world.

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Anonymous wrote:I am pretty sure that a Private School in DC just had to deal with a sniper, about a month or so ago.

And, statistically speaking here, public schools don't deal with these types of events all that frequently either. They are rare events. rare, awful, soul devastating events.

+1

Yep private schools aren't immuned just bc they're smaller and have the option of more security.

AND if you opt for a private school that is religious based (Catholic, Jewish, for example) they might be a bigger target than you think - wasn't there a Hewish private school in NYC that had an active shooter a few years back?

[Anonymous]

We’re seriously considering leaving the country so moving to private school seems like a totally reasonable response.

We are tired of the gun violence in the US altogether, not just in schools, and the fact that gun violence is just part of our culture.

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I wouldnt pull my kindergarten , who has presumably made friends and is now comfortable and well established, all because you need to quell your anxiety and should probably find coping mechanisms for your anxiety and paranoia.

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Anonymous wrote:I am pretty sure that a Private School in DC just had to deal with a sniper, about a month or so ago.

And, statistically speaking here, public schools don't deal with these types of events all that frequently either. They are rare events. rare, awful, soul devastating events.

+1

Yep private schools aren't immuned just bc they're smaller and have the option of more security.

AND if you opt for a private school that is religious based (Catholic, Jewish, for example) they might be a bigger target than you think - wasn't there a Hewish private school in NYC that had an active shooter a few years back?

The two elementary schools were private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldnt pull my kindergarten , who has presumably made friends and is now comfortable and well established, all because you need to quell your anxiety and should probably find coping mechanisms for your anxiety and paranoia.

She sounds normal to me. She is actively looking at options to help with her anxiety. The real question is why do we allow this sh** to keep happening?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, if switching makes you feel safer, you should switch. But your best bet is to keep your kids out of gangs/crews and don’t have a gun in your house.

Recent data:

New England J of Med (April 2022)

Leading Causes of Death among Children and Adolescents in the United States, 1999 through 2020.
The previous analysis, which examined data through 2016, showed that firearm-related injuries were second only to motor vehicle crashes (both traffic-related and nontraffic-related) as the leading cause of death among children and adolescents, defined as persons 1 to 19 years of age.4 Since 2016, that gap has narrowed, and in 2020, firearm-related injuries became the leading cause of death in that age group (Figure 1). From 2019 to 2020, the relative increase in the rate of firearm-related deaths of all types (suicide, homicide, unintentional, and undetermined) among children and adolescents was 29.5% — more than twice as high as the relative increase in the general population. The increase was seen across most demographic characteristics and types of firearm-related death (Fig. S1 in the Supplementary Appendix, available with the full text of this letter at NEJM.org).

OP here. DH has a Ph.D. in statistics. You could look at the stats until you're blue in the face, but ultimately you need to do what feels right. And private feels right. I don't like the comparison to lightning strikes. How often do we hear about lightning strikes on the news or even around the world? I have lived in SO MANY of the cities where mass shootings have taken place. It feels like a small world.

Jeez.

And that’s why I said you should switch if it makes you feel safer. If being married to someone who works with and understands stats doesn’t bring home to you that your children’s chances of being shot at school are really low, then you should go with your gut.

The data was for those arguing about the statistics.

[Anonymous]

Are shooter drills going about the best course of action? Were those children huddled up in a bathroom? My kids say every drill includes kids being loud while other kids loudly tell the loud kids to be quiet. Why not have a plan for some kids to run to a nearby house or yard if they are close enough?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, if switching makes you feel safer, you should switch. But your best bet is to keep your kids out of gangs/crews and don’t have a gun in your house.

Recent data:

New England J of Med (April 2022)

Leading Causes of Death among Children and Adolescents in the United States, 1999 through 2020.
The previous analysis, which examined data through 2016, showed that firearm-related injuries were second only to motor vehicle crashes (both traffic-related and nontraffic-related) as the leading cause of death among children and adolescents, defined as persons 1 to 19 years of age.4 Since 2016, that gap has narrowed, and in 2020, firearm-related injuries became the leading cause of death in that age group (Figure 1). From 2019 to 2020, the relative increase in the rate of firearm-related deaths of all types (suicide, homicide, unintentional, and undetermined) among children and adolescents was 29.5% — more than twice as high as the relative increase in the general population. The increase was seen across most demographic characteristics and types of firearm-related death (Fig. S1 in the Supplementary Appendix, available with the full text of this letter at NEJM.org).

OP here. DH has a Ph.D. in statistics. You could look at the stats until you're blue in the face, but ultimately you need to do what feels right. And private feels right. I don't like the comparison to lightning strikes. How often do we hear about lightning strikes on the news or even around the world? I have lived in SO MANY of the cities where mass shootings have taken place. It feels like a small world.

What does your husband's profession have to do with this? You're literally saying: screw statistics and do what you feel is right.

I mean, I don't care what you do, but it's odd for you to invoke a relationship to a statistician here.

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Anonymous wrote:Private schools have better security, and are often less visible and/or accessible to the public. They are less well known by others who aren't part of the community. There are significantly more adults on campus. It does feel like those factors decrease the likelihood of events like this happening on site.

There are 27,000 private schools in the country. They come in many shapes and sizes. You are generalizing and are clueless.

[Anonymous]

I moved my kids from public to private and the private school is on a gated campus with a security guard. The public school was huge with largely open access. It’s not rational, but it does make me feel better.

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Anonymous wrote:Private schools have better security, and are often less visible and/or accessible to the public. They are less well known by others who aren't part of the community. There are significantly more adults on campus. It does feel like those factors decrease the likelihood of events like this happening on site.

There are 27,000 private schools in the country. They come in many shapes and sizes. You are generalizing and are clueless.

Oh come on. Parents who are making this decision are looking at specific schools to compare, presumably like the PP above. You are being silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:High great school ratings help avoid this

Oh please.