Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area

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Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.

there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.

For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.

Ha ha! My kid is in non public placement for his ASD. I put the money that I would have to spend on private to his summer camp.

Does your child have behavioral issues? My point is that there are many camp options for SN kids with no "behaviors."

"many"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Diener? There are plenty of bright kids there with emotional and behavioral issues.

OP, can you talk to an educational consultant? They may be able to help you find options, both public and private.

I seriously doubt Diener accepts children with FBAs that involve any serious amount of behavioral disruption.

I met with admissions at Diener. They asked for his neuropsych. After reviewing it and meeting him, they basically told me not to bother applying. My kid has significant behaviors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.

there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.

For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.

Ha ha! My kid is in non public placement for his ASD. I put the money that I would have to spend on private to his summer camp.

Does your child have behavioral issues? My point is that there are many camp options for SN kids with no "behaviors."

Yes. My kid has significant behaviors. I agree with you, there are lots of SN camps for kids without behaviors. However, the ones that can support kids with behaviors are few and far between and cost a small fortune. My kids summer camp is roughly $20K between tuition, flights, visiting day, hotels, and car rental. My point is that thank goodness he is in non public placement so I can use the money that I would have to spend on school for summer camp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Diener? There are plenty of bright kids there with emotional and behavioral issues.

OP, can you talk to an educational consultant? They may be able to help you find options, both public and private.

I seriously doubt Diener accepts children with FBAs that involve any serious amount of behavioral disruption.

I met with admissions at Diener. They asked for his neuropsych. After reviewing it and meeting him, they basically told me not to bother applying. My kid has significant behaviors.

My kid has autism along with significant behaviors and is at Sheppard Pratt in Rockville.

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OP, not trying to be a negative nelly, but i feel like DC has tons of options relative to the rest of the country and the world (well, except maybe NYC and i suspect SF has a lot of supports). We left the DC area for a very high end, midsized city in the south, and there are almost no options. One SN private school that serves a metropolitan area of around 850k, and our town has one public school for the "bad kids" (as other friends say - though clearly serves a large SN population). Otherwise, you're just getting supports through your public school (which range in quality).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Diener? There are plenty of bright kids there with emotional and behavioral issues.

OP, can you talk to an educational consultant? They may be able to help you find options, both public and private.

I seriously doubt Diener accepts children with FBAs that involve any serious amount of behavioral disruption.

I met with admissions at Diener. They asked for his neuropsych. After reviewing it and meeting him, they basically told me not to bother applying. My kid has significant behaviors.

My kid has autism along with significant behaviors and is at Sheppard Pratt in Rockville.

SP Rockville denied my kid as having too many behaviors. Now, to their credit, my kid requires a quiet room to calm down. When I toured SP, the kids that needed help re-regulating seemed to be in the hallways with an adult.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.

there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.

For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.

Ha ha! My kid is in non public placement for his ASD. I put the money that I would have to spend on private to his summer camp.

Does your child have behavioral issues? My point is that there are many camp options for SN kids with no "behaviors."

"many"?

Yes, many compared to behaviors. I don't know your particular kid, but I have done extensive research into summer camps, and a kid with autism and no behavioral issues has a much, much bigger variety of camps than my kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Diener? There are plenty of bright kids there with emotional and behavioral issues.

OP, can you talk to an educational consultant? They may be able to help you find options, both public and private.

I seriously doubt Diener accepts children with FBAs that involve any serious amount of behavioral disruption.

I met with admissions at Diener. They asked for his neuropsych. After reviewing it and meeting him, they basically told me not to bother applying. My kid has significant behaviors.

Yup, unsurprised.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.

there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.

For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.

Ha ha! My kid is in non public placement for his ASD. I put the money that I would have to spend on private to his summer camp.

Does your child have behavioral issues? My point is that there are many camp options for SN kids with no "behaviors."

Yes. My kid has significant behaviors. I agree with you, there are lots of SN camps for kids without behaviors. However, the ones that can support kids with behaviors are few and far between and cost a small fortune. My kids summer camp is roughly $20K between tuition, flights, visiting day, hotels, and car rental. My point is that thank goodness he is in non public placement so I can use the money that I would have to spend on school for summer camp.

Sleep away? We need to start a separate thread ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.

there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.

For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.

Ha ha! My kid is in non public placement for his ASD. I put the money that I would have to spend on private to his summer camp.

Does your child have behavioral issues? My point is that there are many camp options for SN kids with no "behaviors."

Yes. My kid has significant behaviors. I agree with you, there are lots of SN camps for kids without behaviors. However, the ones that can support kids with behaviors are few and far between and cost a small fortune. My kids summer camp is roughly $20K between tuition, flights, visiting day, hotels, and car rental. My point is that thank goodness he is in non public placement so I can use the money that I would have to spend on school for summer camp.

Sleep away? We need to start a separate thread ...

Yep, sleep away. Happy to answer any questions if you want to start a new thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.

there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.

For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.

None of those listed had the higher levels of math and science that my local HS had for my gifted child. Commonwealth was close, but even then it would be a supervised online college class (which is what my friend’s child ended up doing).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.

there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.

For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.

None of those listed had the higher levels of math and science that my local HS had for my gifted child. Commonwealth was close, but even then it would be a supervised online college class (which is what my friend’s child ended up doing).

That can be said for a gifted student at many schools. Some students need the rigor of the Blair magnet or TJ. Not all local HS offer all classes that the student population needs. It's also true for languages. Some students need more adv language options than are offered at a school. A supervised online class is a good option and nice when it is offered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.

there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.

For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.

None of those listed had the higher levels of math and science that my local HS had for my gifted child. Commonwealth was close, but even then it would be a supervised online college class (which is what my friend’s child ended up doing).

Oh yes, I am PP, and I agree that publics are better for an advanced kid with autism. Kids like that need to be mainstreamed. We're currently considering moving to MoCo for that reason.

[Anonymous]

I think there are tons of SN programs here in relation to elsewhere but I still can't find a school that's the right fit for my kid. He's looking for a new school due to behaviors driven by academic frustrations. What happens when the SN schools are just not enough and the schools that do deal with behaviors say they can't support the specialized academic needs? Even with an advocate, I feel like there's nowhere to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Diener? There are plenty of bright kids there with emotional and behavioral issues.

OP, can you talk to an educational consultant? They may be able to help you find options, both public and private.

I seriously doubt Diener accepts children with FBAs that involve any serious amount of behavioral disruption.

I met with admissions at Diener. They asked for his neuropsych. After reviewing it and meeting him, they basically told me not to bother applying. My kid has significant behaviors.

Yup, unsurprised.

Maybe they are changing their target student population with the increase in applications because of covid. When we were there, there were very significant behaviors -- much more than advertised.