Gas stoves causing health issues?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's bad for the environment and increases CO2.

This is why when our Wolf goes, DH wants induction.

Yes. The only reasonable way for us to go to minimize climate change is to electrify everything, and then carbon-neutral electricity production. Some places are banning natural gas connections to new homes and phasing out sales of gas stoves.

And the only real way to carbon-neutral electric production is nuclear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have gas anything in my house but...is it just the stove that's causing the issue? Does the same concern come in to play when it's gas heat? Or a gas hot water heater? It says that the stove leaks gas even when it's off. Is that not true for these other items as well?

Well this is OP...all that stuff is in my basement where no one is on a regular basis. but I think the stove is unique in the constant leak aspect?

No. The water heater and furnace have their combustion products vented outside through a flue. A gas range does not, it burns in the open kitchen. That's why some people say that it's important to have the vent fan on (and a real vent fan).

However, I think these health "concerns" that all popped up in the past couple years, after humans have been cooking on gas stoves since the mid-1800s, are 99.8% total bullshit, and completely irrelevant if you're not otherwise pre-disposed to some condition like severe asthma. It's motivated by climate activism, so make of that what you will.

I have a gas stove, water heater, and furnace. I'd switch to induction if the stove broke, if we were renovating, assuming it's not prohibitively expensive to get an additional 240 V line to the stove.

Otherwise, I'm not worrying about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have gas anything in my house but...is it just the stove that's causing the issue? Does the same concern come in to play when it's gas heat? Or a gas hot water heater? It says that the stove leaks gas even when it's off. Is that not true for these other items as well?

Well this is OP...all that stuff is in my basement where no one is on a regular basis. but I think the stove is unique in the constant leak aspect?

No. The water heater and furnace have their combustion products vented outside through a flue. A gas range does not, it burns in the open kitchen. That's why some people say that it's important to have the vent fan on (and a real vent fan).

However, I think these health "concerns" that all popped up in the past couple years, after humans have been cooking on gas stoves since the mid-1800s, are 99.8% total bullshit, and completely irrelevant if you're not otherwise pre-disposed to some condition like severe asthma. It's motivated by climate activism, so make of that what you will

I have a gas stove, water heater, and furnace. I'd switch to induction if the stove broke, if we were renovating, assuming it's not prohibitively expensive to get an additional 240 V line to the stove.

Otherwise, I'm not worrying about it.

Also...there is no "constant leak" from the stove. WTF are they talking about?

[Anonymous]

The single biggest issue with any cooking inside is the lack of adequate exhaust ventilation, and corresponding makeup air. Most vent hoods are undersized and poorly designed for the task of exhausting cooking fumes (not simply gas exhaust but all the byproducts of searing/frying/steaming). You're going to have some of these issues with induction or electric, too. Many of those over the stove microwave hoods don't vent outside. If they do, they don't have enough CFM flow to do an adequate job. If you install the bigger units (750-1200+CFM), you very likely don't have adequate make-up air, especially in newer, tighter houses with better air barriers and air sealing. It's hard to find MEP designers and HVAC companies that truly know what they're doing with ventilation, and most people avoid spending the money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have gas anything in my house but...is it just the stove that's causing the issue? Does the same concern come in to play when it's gas heat? Or a gas hot water heater? It says that the stove leaks gas even when it's off. Is that not true for these other items as well?

Well this is OP...all that stuff is in my basement where no one is on a regular basis. but I think the stove is unique in the constant leak aspect?

No. The water heater and furnace have their combustion products vented outside through a flue. A gas range does not, it burns in the open kitchen. That's why some people say that it's important to have the vent fan on (and a real vent fan).

However, I think these health "concerns" that all popped up in the past couple years, after humans have been cooking on gas stoves since the mid-1800s, are 99.8% total bullshit, and completely irrelevant if you're not otherwise pre-disposed to some condition like severe asthma. It's motivated by climate activism, so make of that what you will

I have a gas stove, water heater, and furnace. I'd switch to induction if the stove broke, if we were renovating, assuming it's not prohibitively expensive to get an additional 240 V line to the stove.

Otherwise, I'm not worrying about it.

Also...there is no "constant leak" from the stove. WTF are they talking about?

Most likely a pilot light?

[Anonymous]

Omg, open a damn window or turn the hood on. NBD. Billions of people across multiple continents have been using gas stoves for over 100 years, yet children for decades haven't been coming down with mass asthma across multiple countries. I mean lung issues couldn't possibly be from exponential increase in fossil fuel burning from China, or the huge increase in emissions from planes due to billions of people traveling for vacations? Gas stoves are drop in the bucket. What a bunch of hullabaloo over nothing. They can pry my gas stove from my cold, dead hands. Electric stoves are absolute garbage. You cannot do proper Asian style cooking using induction either. Pushing people to get induction is racist and asumes everyone does white/western/European style cooking. 99.9% of Asian people use gas or charcoal to cook proper food.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The single biggest issue with any cooking inside is the lack of adequate exhaust ventilation, and corresponding makeup air. Most vent hoods are undersized and poorly designed for the task of exhausting cooking fumes (not simply gas exhaust but all the byproducts of searing/frying/steaming). You're going to have some of these issues with induction or electric, too. Many of those over the stove microwave hoods don't vent outside. If they do, they don't have enough CFM flow to do an adequate job. If you install the bigger units (750-1200+CFM), you very likely don't have adequate make-up air, especially in newer, tighter houses with better air barriers and air sealing. It's hard to find MEP designers and HVAC companies that truly know what they're doing with ventilation, and most people avoid spending the money. [/quote]

To determine the CFM of a hood over a gas range, add up the BTU output of each burner and divide it by 100. For example, if you have two burners that put out 10,000 BTUs each and two burners that put out 15,000 BTUs each, your total BTUs for your stovetop would be 50,000. 50,000 divided by 100 equals 500 CFM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg, open a damn window or turn the hood on. NBD. Billions of people across multiple continents have been using gas stoves for over 100 years, yet children for decades haven't been coming down with mass asthma across multiple countries. I mean lung issues couldn't possibly be from exponential increase in fossil fuel burning from China, or the huge increase in emissions from planes due to billions of people traveling for vacations? Gas stoves are drop in the bucket. What a bunch of hullabaloo over nothing. They can pry my gas stove from my cold, dead hands. Electric stoves are absolute garbage. You cannot do proper Asian style cooking using induction either. Pushing people to get induction is racist and asumes everyone does white/western/European style cooking. 99.9% of Asian people use gas or charcoal to cook proper food.

Agree with this poster!

We are making ourselves crazy with all these new "threats"... Sunscreen, hormone disruptors, plastic, gas, food supply... the anxiety created has to be part of the equation when evaluating our health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The single biggest issue with any cooking inside is the lack of adequate exhaust ventilation, and corresponding makeup air. Most vent hoods are undersized and poorly designed for the task of exhausting cooking fumes (not simply gas exhaust but all the byproducts of searing/frying/steaming). You're going to have some of these issues with induction or electric, too. Many of those over the stove microwave hoods don't vent outside. If they do, they don't have enough CFM flow to do an adequate job. If you install the bigger units (750-1200+CFM), you very likely don't have adequate make-up air, especially in newer, tighter houses with better air barriers and air sealing. It's hard to find MEP designers and HVAC companies that truly know what they're doing with ventilation, and most people avoid spending the money. [/quote]

To determine the CFM of a hood over a gas range, add up the BTU output of each burner and divide it by 100. For example, if you have two burners that put out 10,000 BTUs each and two burners that put out 15,000 BTUs each, your total BTUs for your stovetop would be 50,000. 50,000 divided by 100 equals 500 CFM.

Sure. But where is that 500cfm coming from? From air getting sucked down your chimney flue? From your type B water heater and furnace vent? Through all the gaps and cracks exchanging outside and inside air? Through a window you have to open to get adequate draw? Through an HRV/ERV? The blowing out is only half the story and very incomplete at that if you're not figuring out where the air is coming from.

[Anonymous]

We have gas stove and two fire places. I never use the pilot light in the fire place. Also, fireplace is only used when the chimney vent is open.

Similarly for the gas stove. We have powerful vents, vented outside outside the house. Finally, we open windows for fresh air, we have a lot of air quality monitors, and we have good filteration system for the whole house.

I am not really worried about our gas usage. I prefer having electric, solar and gas as our energy sources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh my God, I have a gas stove and a gas fireplace.

Can anyone speak to what the effects might be with a non-heat producing gas fireplace?

Mine produces a minimal amount of heat - really there for aesthetics of having a fire.

[Anonymous]

I'm just making it a point to open windows more.

It seems like with COVID a lot more attention has been paid to how bad our indoor air quality is, for a variety of reasons.

[Anonymous]

Modern homes are too airtight. Older homes just 'breathe' better although they aren't as good as retaining heat. The point is, they want to make gas stoves the new boogeyman, yet how well have they controlled for the fact that modern homes are too airtight? Everything from carpet fibers, to all of the fire ret__ardants, to all of the plastic fumes in your homes are bad for your health, yet a super efficient, air tight modern home will retain all of those toxins a lot more than older homes. How do they know whether or results aren't confounded by modern building codes and efficiency that inadvertently also trap all sorts of toxic chemicals from basically everything in your home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg, open a damn window or turn the hood on. NBD. Billions of people across multiple continents have been using gas stoves for over 100 years, yet children for decades haven't been coming down with mass asthma across multiple countries. I mean lung issues couldn't possibly be from exponential increase in fossil fuel burning from China, or the huge increase in emissions from planes due to billions of people traveling for vacations? Gas stoves are drop in the bucket. What a bunch of hullabaloo over nothing. They can pry my gas stove from my cold, dead hands. Electric stoves are absolute garbage. You cannot do proper Asian style cooking using induction either. Pushing people to get induction is racist and asumes everyone does white/western/European style cooking. 99.9% of Asian people use gas or charcoal to cook proper food.

Agree with this poster!

We are making ourselves crazy with all these new "threats"... Sunscreen, hormone disruptors, plastic, gas, food supply... the anxiety created has to be part of the equation when evaluating our health.

But but but.. the Biden admin says this is now the "science". How dare you question the assertions being made about gas stoves. You must immediately correct your wrongthink and support the "narrative" because they told you to. If you dont no more good person points!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have gas anything in my house but...is it just the stove that's causing the issue? Does the same concern come in to play when it's gas heat? Or a gas hot water heater? It says that the stove leaks gas even when it's off. Is that not true for these other items as well?

Well this is OP...all that stuff is in my basement where no one is on a regular basis. but I think the stove is unique in the constant leak aspect?

No. The water heater and furnace have their combustion products vented outside through a flue. A gas range does not, it burns in the open kitchen. That's why some people say that it's important to have the vent fan on (and a real vent fan).

However, I think these health "concerns" that all popped up in the past couple years, after humans have been cooking on gas stoves since the mid-1800s, are 99.8% total bullshit, and completely irrelevant if you're not otherwise pre-disposed to some condition like severe asthma. It's motivated by climate activism, so make of that what you will.

I have a gas stove, water heater, and furnace. I'd switch to induction if the stove broke, if we were renovating, assuming it's not prohibitively expensive to get an additional 240 V line to the stove.

Otherwise, I'm not worrying about it.

my husband used to cough every time i turned on the gas oven. We switched our gas range to induction cooktop and electric stove. My husband no longer coughs anymore. Also, my smoke alarm does not go off either when cooking something in the oven.