Why does Brown Admissions like GDS so much more than Sidwell?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GDS did really, really well this year. Maybe because they have less grade deflation and also because their kids are more likely to be involved in social justice extracurriculars which are en vogue with colleges.
I have a kid at STA and the admits across the board are not half as good at GDS OR Sidwell. The student/athelete prep boy persona did not seem to go over well this year.

Yeah. Ivies today take a hard pass on Biff and Chip.

[Anonymous]

Having to take kids from Beauvoir en masse is different than Sidwell and GDS retaining their lifers. Simply because Beauvoir has many more legacies/old DC families AND an unusual feeder relationship with LFS. For all their faults, Sidwell and GDS admit a much wider range of “types” and can at least try to pick the most capable 4 year olds with the most objectively impressive parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having to take kids from Beauvoir en masse is different than Sidwell and GDS retaining their lifers. Simply because Beauvoir has many more legacies/old DC families AND an unusual feeder relationship with LFS. For all their faults, Sidwell and GDS admit a much wider range of “types” and can at least try to pick the most capable 4 year olds with the most objectively impressive parents.

it's so amusing that you think Sidwell and GDS can somehow pick 4 years old better than Beauvoir.

Even more amusing is that you think you can divine some sort of pattern in the pre K admits for the three schools. have you been studying this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to take kids from Beauvoir en masse is different than Sidwell and GDS retaining their lifers. Simply because Beauvoir has many more legacies/old DC families AND an unusual feeder relationship with LFS. For all their faults, Sidwell and GDS admit a much wider range of “types” and can at least try to pick the most capable 4 year olds with the most objectively impressive parents.

it's so amusing that you think Sidwell and GDS can somehow pick 4 years old better than Beauvoir.

Even more amusing is that you think you can divine some sort of pattern in the pre K admits for the three schools. have you been studying this?

This made me chuckle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to take kids from Beauvoir en masse is different than Sidwell and GDS retaining their lifers. Simply because Beauvoir has many more legacies/old DC families AND an unusual feeder relationship with LFS. For all their faults, Sidwell and GDS admit a much wider range of “types” and can at least try to pick the most capable 4 year olds with the most objectively impressive parents.

it's so amusing that you think Sidwell and GDS can somehow pick 4 years old better than Beauvoir.

Even more amusing is that you think you can divine some sort of pattern in the pre K admits for the three schools. have you been studying this?

Maybe GDS and Sidwell do a better job of selecting parents who are likely to raise children with certain interests, values; and skills? Assuming that the wealth across the three are similar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to take kids from Beauvoir en masse is different than Sidwell and GDS retaining their lifers. Simply because Beauvoir has many more legacies/old DC families AND an unusual feeder relationship with LFS. For all their faults, Sidwell and GDS admit a much wider range of “types” and can at least try to pick the most capable 4 year olds with the most objectively impressive parents.

it's so amusing that you think Sidwell and GDS can somehow pick 4 years old better than Beauvoir.

Even more amusing is that you think you can divine some sort of pattern in the pre K admits for the three schools. have you been studying this?

Maybe GDS and Sidwell do a better job of selecting parents who are likely to raise children with certain interests, values; and skills? Assuming that the wealth across the three are similar?

We know several not connected or legacy families that got in to all of those for K or PK, and we saw them at the admit weekends and tours. It’s hard to pick for a 4 or 5 yo who’s not yet developed independent interests or fortes. And these are small schools. 13 years… ugh. For one kid we picked wrong as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to take kids from Beauvoir en masse is different than Sidwell and GDS retaining their lifers. Simply because Beauvoir has many more legacies/old DC families AND an unusual feeder relationship with LFS. For all their faults, Sidwell and GDS admit a much wider range of “types” and can at least try to pick the most capable 4 year olds with the most objectively impressive parents.

it's so amusing that you think Sidwell and GDS can somehow pick 4 years old better than Beauvoir.

Even more amusing is that you think you can divine some sort of pattern in the pre K admits for the three schools. have you been studying this?

Maybe GDS and Sidwell do a better job of selecting parents who are likely to raise children with certain interests, values; and skills? Assuming that the wealth across the three are similar?

We know several not connected or legacy families that got in to all of those for K or PK, and we saw them at the admit weekends and tours. It’s hard to pick for a 4 or 5 yo who’s not yet developed independent interests or fortes. And these are small schools. 13 years… ugh. For one kid we picked wrong as well.

Don’t worry. PP thinks the schools have tagged your 4 year old kid for sure Ivy League success!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having to take kids from Beauvoir en masse is different than Sidwell and GDS retaining their lifers. Simply because Beauvoir has many more legacies/old DC families AND an unusual feeder relationship with LFS. For all their faults, Sidwell and GDS admit a much wider range of “types” and can at least try to pick the most capable 4 year olds with the most objectively impressive parents.

What’s LFS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Likely a better cultural fit overall.

That said, Sidwell needs a heart to heart with Brown. That 16:0 ED admit needs to be addressed both internally and externally, and I say this as a public school parent. If Brown does not come to the table, Sidwell may consider discouraging ED applications there, which may already naturally happen in the future.

I am sure Brown is quaking in its Birkenstocks.

LOL!

A compassionate note to Genx parents (or god forbid the younger boomers who are still hanging around) at the "top 3":

Ivy admissions are not what they were when we graduated in the late 80s and early 90s, when, if you went to a top 3 (and were in the top 25% of your class), you could very likely get an ivy admit. They are even different than when we decided to start our kids as lifers back in the early 2000s. Our college counselors don't have sit downs with Brown where they can ask them to reconsider your Larlo's application. Just doesn't happen anymore. $ and your own personal connections to these schools are king. There is discussion of getting rid of legacy preference, so be happy, at least our kids have that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Likely a better cultural fit overall.

That said, Sidwell needs a heart to heart with Brown. That 16:0 ED admit needs to be addressed both internally and externally, and I say this as a public school parent. If Brown does not come to the table, Sidwell may consider discouraging ED applications there, which may already naturally happen in the future.

I am sure Brown is quaking in its Birkenstocks.

LOL!

A compassionate note to Genx parents (or god forbid the younger boomers who are still hanging around) at the "top 3":

Ivy admissions are not what they were when we graduated in the late 80s and early 90s, when, if you went to a top 3 (and were in the top 25% of your class), you could very likely get an ivy admit. They are even different than when we decided to start our kids as lifers back in the early 2000s. Our college counselors don't have sit downs with Brown where they can ask them to reconsider your Larlo's application. Just doesn't happen anymore. $ and your own personal connections to these schools are king. There is discussion of getting rid of legacy preference, so be happy, at least our kids have that.

I’d be shocked if GenX parents didn’t already know this. It’s hardly a secret.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to take kids from Beauvoir en masse is different than Sidwell and GDS retaining their lifers. Simply because Beauvoir has many more legacies/old DC families AND an unusual feeder relationship with LFS. For all their faults, Sidwell and GDS admit a much wider range of “types” and can at least try to pick the most capable 4 year olds with the most objectively impressive parents.

it's so amusing that you think Sidwell and GDS can somehow pick 4 years old better than Beauvoir.

Even more amusing is that you think you can divine some sort of pattern in the pre K admits for the three schools. have you been studying this?

How did you know you picked wrong?
Maybe GDS and Sidwell do a better job of selecting parents who are likely to raise children with certain interests, values; and skills? Assuming that the wealth across the three are similar?

We know several not connected or legacy families that got in to all of those for K or PK, and we saw them at the admit weekends and tours. It’s hard to pick for a 4 or 5 yo who’s not yet developed independent interests or fortes. And these are small schools. 13 years… ugh. For one kid we picked wrong as well.

[Anonymous]

How did you know you picked wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Likely a better cultural fit overall.

That said, Sidwell needs a heart to heart with Brown. That 16:0 ED admit needs to be addressed both internally and externally, and I say this as a public school parent. If Brown does not come to the table, Sidwell may consider discouraging ED applications there, which may already naturally happen in the future.

I am sure Brown is quaking in its Birkenstocks.

LOL!

A compassionate note to Genx parents (or god forbid the younger boomers who are still hanging around) at the "top 3":

Ivy admissions are not what they were when we graduated in the late 80s and early 90s, when, if you went to a top 3 (and were in the top 25% of your class), you could very likely get an ivy admit. They are even different than when we decided to start our kids as lifers back in the early 2000s. Our college counselors don't have sit downs with Brown where they can ask them to reconsider your Larlo's application. Just doesn't happen anymore. $ and your own personal connections to these schools are king. There is discussion of getting rid of legacy preference, so be happy, at least our kids have that.

I’d be shocked if GenX parents didn’t already know this. It’s hardly a secret.

I think most have come to terms with this in the last 10 years, but, it is hard to change an ingrained, entitled attitude, and hard not to be bitter about admissions for their own kids.

[Anonymous]

Eh, my spouse pays no attention to the increased competitiveness of college admissions. I’ll have to calm him way down in 18 months when he realizes how tough it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Likely a better cultural fit overall.

That said, Sidwell needs a heart to heart with Brown. That 16:0 ED admit needs to be addressed both internally and externally, and I say this as a public school parent. If Brown does not come to the table, Sidwell may consider discouraging ED applications there, which may already naturally happen in the future.

I am sure Brown is quaking in its Birkenstocks.

When I went to Brown in 1980, they had 20K apps for 4K acceptances to get about 1300 enrolled in the freshman class. Now they get 36K apps for the same number of places (the campus has no room to grow).

No, they won't be concerned if one school starts to talk them down. It's like DCUM parents who think they have leverage over the local top privates. Not when those schools get 5-10 apps for every available space.

36K? It’s 50K now.