Banneker vs. Walls

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, Banneker is a minority choice for every demographic in the city. So is BASIS and Latin and DCI and Duke and Walls etc. Surely we understand how school choice works by now? Just because a school doesn’t appeal to absolutely everyone doesn’t mean it needs to change.

Ivy League interviewer who gave up on Banneker here who disagrees strongly. There are many very bright, hard-working, ambitious, super talented students in the Banneker building who are poorly served by hidebound admins whose college admissions advice emanates from a bygone era, a previous generation. Banneker may be fine for the UMC families who can provide a lot of their own enrichment and college admissions inputs. Not so hot for the rest. If I were a low SES minority family reaching for the stars for college, I'd head to Basis, Latin or Walls if possible, vs. Banneker. Banneker operates in too much of an affirmative action cocoon these days. The leadership isn't moving with the times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, Banneker is a minority choice for every demographic in the city. So is BASIS and Latin and DCI and Duke and Walls etc. Surely we understand how school choice works by now? Just because a school doesn’t appeal to absolutely everyone doesn’t mean it needs to change.

Ivy League interviewer who gave up on Banneker here who disagrees strongly. There are many very bright, hard-working, ambitious, super talented students in the Banneker building who are poorly served by hidebound admins whose college admissions advice emanates from a bygone era, a previous generation. Banneker may be fine for the UMC families who can provide a lot of their own enrichment and college admissions inputs. Not so hot for the rest. If I were a low SES minority family reaching for the stars for college, I'd head to Basis, Latin or Walls if possible, vs. Banneker. Banneker operates in too much of an affirmative action cocoon these days. The leadership isn't moving with the times.

So the low SES Banneker kids posting on Instagram yesterday about their full rides to top 20 schools should actually be upset with the results? What more is some other school going to do for them, get Harvard to pay them $100,000 to attend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Huh? This post makes no sense to me, and has no bearing on Banneker vs. Walls. TJ may have strong Asian representations, but is still quite diverse, become more so due to a new admissions system.

TJ is about 70% Asian and 20% white, just as Banneker is about 70% Black and 20% Hispanic. Yet you describe Banneker as “lacking diversity,” and TJ as “quite diverse.” We see you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, Banneker is a minority choice for every demographic in the city. So is BASIS and Latin and DCI and Duke and Walls etc. Surely we understand how school choice works by now? Just because a school doesn’t appeal to absolutely everyone doesn’t mean it needs to change.

Ivy League interviewer who gave up on Banneker here who disagrees strongly. There are many very bright, hard-working, ambitious, super talented students in the Banneker building who are poorly served by hidebound admins whose college admissions advice emanates from a bygone era, a previous generation. Banneker may be fine for the UMC families who can provide a lot of their own enrichment and college admissions inputs. Not so hot for the rest. If I were a low SES minority family reaching for the stars for college, I'd head to Basis, Latin or Walls if possible, vs. Banneker. Banneker operates in too much of an affirmative action cocoon these days. The leadership isn't moving with the times.

So the low SES Banneker kids posting on Instagram yesterday about their full rides to top 20 schools should actually be upset with the results? What more is some other school going to do for them, get Harvard to pay them $100,000 to attend?

. Banneker rests on is laurels far too much in college admissions. The Supreme Court will come at affirmative action next year. possibly hard. Banneker doesn’t seem to have heard the wake-up call. Time for the school to up its game and broaden its reach.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like a post full of hateful white people, as usual. Affirmative action is there for a reason! You sound so excited that the next administration is going to “come at it hard”. Compare the schools without showing off how racist you are. Ok?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, Banneker is a minority choice for every demographic in the city. So is BASIS and Latin and DCI and Duke and Walls etc. Surely we understand how school choice works by now? Just because a school doesn’t appeal to absolutely everyone doesn’t mean it needs to change.

Ivy League interviewer who gave up on Banneker here who disagrees strongly. There are many very bright, hard-working, ambitious, super talented students in the Banneker building who are poorly served by hidebound admins whose college admissions advice emanates from a bygone era, a previous generation. Banneker may be fine for the UMC families who can provide a lot of their own enrichment and college admissions inputs. Not so hot for the rest. If I were a low SES minority family reaching for the stars for college, I'd head to Basis, Latin or Walls if possible, vs. Banneker. Banneker operates in too much of an affirmative action cocoon these days. The leadership isn't moving with the times.

Did you make a post on this on DCUM about a decade ago? Because that post (really long) was pretty vile.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Huh? This post makes no sense to me, and has no bearing on Banneker vs. Walls. TJ may have strong Asian representations, but is still quite diverse, become more so due to a new admissions system.

TJ is about 70% Asian and 20% white, just as Banneker is about 70% Black and 20% Hispanic. Yet you describe Banneker as “lacking diversity,” and TJ as “quite diverse.” We see you.

OMFG. That may be the cleanest a**whooping I have ever seen on DCUM. If there is any justice PP to whom you responded will just log off, move to the mountains and live off the grid for the rest of their lives. Dayum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, Banneker is a minority choice for every demographic in the city. So is BASIS and Latin and DCI and Duke and Walls etc. Surely we understand how school choice works by now? Just because a school doesn’t appeal to absolutely everyone doesn’t mean it needs to change.

Ivy League interviewer who gave up on Banneker here who disagrees strongly. There are many very bright, hard-working, ambitious, super talented students in the Banneker building who are poorly served by hidebound admins whose college admissions advice emanates from a bygone era, a previous generation. Banneker may be fine for the UMC families who can provide a lot of their own enrichment and college admissions inputs. Not so hot for the rest. If I were a low SES minority family reaching for the stars for college, I'd head to Basis, Latin or Walls if possible, vs. Banneker. Banneker operates in too much of an affirmative action cocoon these days. The leadership isn't moving with the times.

So the low SES Banneker kids posting on Instagram yesterday about their full rides to top 20 schools should actually be upset with the results? What more is some other school going to do for them, get Harvard to pay them $100,000 to attend?

. Banneker rests on is laurels far too much in college admissions. The Supreme Court will come at affirmative action next year. possibly hard. Banneker doesn’t seem to have heard the wake-up call. Time for the school to up its game and broaden its reach.

I think you don't understand what the phrase "rests on its laurels" means. The post to which you replied referenced the most current graduating class's successes. If we are not judge a school on its most recent performance then what measure would you suggest?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which out-of-date stats? Banneker is now 2% white?

Whatever, the school is behind the times and needs to change.

Not a huge difference, but the most recent data is 3%. I point that out because if someone called me out for using incorrect data I might at least double check my references. It's here if you want to see it. https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/9/

So Banneker is a little more than 70% black, a little more than 20% Latino, around 3% white. Translation: nowhere near diverse enough for most high SES DC parents of all races. Whatever its merits, Banneker feels seriously irrelevant to this Asian parent, a school that belongs in a bygone era, my immigrant parents' time.

DC Proper is like 5% Asian so I don't know what you expect.

DCPS is actually only 2% Asian (according to most recently published stats)!

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, Banneker is a minority choice for every demographic in the city. So is BASIS and Latin and DCI and Duke and Walls etc. Surely we understand how school choice works by now? Just because a school doesn’t appeal to absolutely everyone doesn’t mean it needs to change.

Ivy League interviewer who gave up on Banneker here who disagrees strongly. There are many very bright, hard-working, ambitious, super talented students in the Banneker building who are poorly served by hidebound admins whose college admissions advice emanates from a bygone era, a previous generation. Banneker may be fine for the UMC families who can provide a lot of their own enrichment and college admissions inputs. Not so hot for the rest. If I were a low SES minority family reaching for the stars for college, I'd head to Basis, Latin or Walls if possible, vs. Banneker. Banneker operates in too much of an affirmative action cocoon these days. The leadership isn't moving with the times.

So the low SES Banneker kids posting on Instagram yesterday about their full rides to top 20 schools should actually be upset with the results? What more is some other school going to do for them, get Harvard to pay them $100,000 to attend?

. Banneker rests on is laurels far too much in college admissions. The Supreme Court will come at affirmative action next year. possibly hard. Banneker doesn’t seem to have heard the wake-up call. Time for the school to up its game and broaden its reach.

I think you don't understand what the phrase "rests on its laurels" means. The post to which you replied referenced the most current graduating class's successes. If we are not judge a school on its most recent performance then what measure would you suggest?

Recent performance doesn't impress me terribly because Banneker relies heavily on our country's 60-year-old tradition of affirmative action admissions, whose days are probably numbered due to Trump's SC appointments. Deeply average SAT and AP scores belie the mediocrity of academics overall, although I'm aware that a tiny minority of students overcome obstacles to cracks colleges admitting in the single digits. I'd be impressed if Banneker attracted a high-performing AND reasonably diverse student body, and their SAT and AP scores knocked it out the park for the demographic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a post full of hateful white people, as usual. Affirmative action is there for a reason! You sound so excited that the next administration is going to “come at it hard”. Compare the schools without showing off how racist you are. Ok?

I agree with you. Dread all Banneker threads because the comments are gross. It’s the same group of commenters too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, Banneker is a minority choice for every demographic in the city. So is BASIS and Latin and DCI and Duke and Walls etc. Surely we understand how school choice works by now? Just because a school doesn’t appeal to absolutely everyone doesn’t mean it needs to change.

Ivy League interviewer who gave up on Banneker here who disagrees strongly. There are many very bright, hard-working, ambitious, super talented students in the Banneker building who are poorly served by hidebound admins whose college admissions advice emanates from a bygone era, a previous generation. Banneker may be fine for the UMC families who can provide a lot of their own enrichment and college admissions inputs. Not so hot for the rest. If I were a low SES minority family reaching for the stars for college, I'd head to Basis, Latin or Walls if possible, vs. Banneker. Banneker operates in too much of an affirmative action cocoon these days. The leadership isn't moving with the times.

So the low SES Banneker kids posting on Instagram yesterday about their full rides to top 20 schools should actually be upset with the results? What more is some other school going to do for them, get Harvard to pay them $100,000 to attend?

. Banneker rests on is laurels far too much in college admissions. The Supreme Court will come at affirmative action next year. possibly hard. Banneker doesn’t seem to have heard the wake-up call. Time for the school to up its game and broaden its reach.

I think you don't understand what the phrase "rests on its laurels" means. The post to which you replied referenced the most current graduating class's successes. If we are not judge a school on its most recent performance then what measure would you suggest?

Recent performance doesn't impress me terribly because Banneker relies heavily on our country's 60-year-old tradition of affirmative action admissions, whose days are probably numbered due to Trump's SC appointments. Deeply average SAT and AP scores belie the mediocrity of academics overall, although I'm aware that a tiny minority of students overcome obstacles to cracks colleges admitting in the single digits. I'd be impressed if Banneker attracted a high-performing AND reasonably diverse student body, and their SAT and AP scores knocked it out the park for the demographic.

What?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a post full of hateful white people, as usual. Affirmative action is there for a reason! You sound so excited that the next administration is going to “come at it hard”. Compare the schools without showing off how racist you are. Ok?

I agree with you. Dread all Banneker threads because the comments are gross. It’s the same group of commenters too.

Not hateful white people: realistic people of various races.

I doubt that the SC would have taken the Chapel Hill case, which was never even appealed at the state level, if Roberts didn't have change in mind. The only question is, how much change and at which institutions (just public universities?).

Fact is, the architects of affirmative action in the 1960s, including MLK, never framed it as a permanent solution to addressing racial equality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, Banneker is a minority choice for every demographic in the city. So is BASIS and Latin and DCI and Duke and Walls etc. Surely we understand how school choice works by now? Just because a school doesn’t appeal to absolutely everyone doesn’t mean it needs to change.

Ivy League interviewer who gave up on Banneker here who disagrees strongly. There are many very bright, hard-working, ambitious, super talented students in the Banneker building who are poorly served by hidebound admins whose college admissions advice emanates from a bygone era, a previous generation. Banneker may be fine for the UMC families who can provide a lot of their own enrichment and college admissions inputs. Not so hot for the rest. If I were a low SES minority family reaching for the stars for college, I'd head to Basis, Latin or Walls if possible, vs. Banneker. Banneker operates in too much of an affirmative action cocoon these days. The leadership isn't moving with the times.

I agree with this post. The kids at Banneker are great and full of potential. The administration is unfortunately stuck in the past.
A leadership change is long overdue at Banneker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, Banneker is a minority choice for every demographic in the city. So is BASIS and Latin and DCI and Duke and Walls etc. Surely we understand how school choice works by now? Just because a school doesn’t appeal to absolutely everyone doesn’t mean it needs to change.

Ivy League interviewer who gave up on Banneker here who disagrees strongly. There are many very bright, hard-working, ambitious, super talented students in the Banneker building who are poorly served by hidebound admins whose college admissions advice emanates from a bygone era, a previous generation. Banneker may be fine for the UMC families who can provide a lot of their own enrichment and college admissions inputs. Not so hot for the rest. If I were a low SES minority family reaching for the stars for college, I'd head to Basis, Latin or Walls if possible, vs. Banneker. Banneker operates in too much of an affirmative action cocoon these days. The leadership isn't moving with the times.

So the low SES Banneker kids posting on Instagram yesterday about their full rides to top 20 schools should actually be upset with the results? What more is some other school going to do for them, get Harvard to pay them $100,000 to attend?

. Banneker rests on is laurels far too much in college admissions. The Supreme Court will come at affirmative action next year. possibly hard. Banneker doesn’t seem to have heard the wake-up call. Time for the school to up its game and broaden its reach.

I think you don't understand what the phrase "rests on its laurels" means. The post to which you replied referenced the most current graduating class's successes. If we are not judge a school on its most recent performance then what measure would you suggest?

Recent performance doesn't impress me terribly because Banneker relies heavily on our country's 60-year-old tradition of affirmative action admissions, whose days are probably numbered due to Trump's SC appointments. Deeply average SAT and AP scores belie the mediocrity of academics overall, although I'm aware that a tiny minority of students overcome obstacles to cracks colleges admitting in the single digits. I'd be impressed if Banneker attracted a high-performing AND reasonably diverse student body, and their SAT and AP scores knocked it out the park for the demographic.

What?

Don't feed the troll.