Elite colleges: T10? T20? Or T25?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top 25 unis and top 5 LACs are the elite schools in the country.

Historically, were there a lot of movements? I ask because at the end, the degree does matter when it comes to job hunting.

No. The elite schools in this country have been elite for a very, very long time. That's almost sort of the whole point. No schools that "became elite", like, last year, because they happened to pump their acceptance rate numbers or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the umpteenth time, the only unambiguously elite colleges in this country are:

HYPSM, UChicago, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, Caltech, Williams, and Amherst.

Pomona, Rice, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon and Columbia aren’t chopped liver either.

[Anonymous]

Just go by tier, all of these are top tier colleges, focusing on specific ranking slots is crazy. Admission process is pretty much a game of luck even for top 1% applicant. 3.7 million student graduated US high schools this year, 37,000 are in top 1%. Ivy League collectively admits 21,000, many of which go to international, athletes, URM, development admits( legacy, donor, famous, powerful families). It’s Russian Roulette.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the umpteenth time, the only unambiguously elite colleges in this country are:

HYPSM, UChicago, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, Caltech, Williams, and Amherst.

Pomona, Rice, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon and Columbia aren’t chopped liver either.

Why no one ever cares about the other slac? Are they not worthy of being top? I still don’t under stand what makes Williams special

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the umpteenth time, the only unambiguously elite colleges in this country are:

HYPSM, UChicago, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, Caltech, Williams, and Amherst.

Pomona, Rice, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon and Columbia aren’t chopped liver either.

Columbia most definitely and would belong close to the top of this list, the rest of your schools are not unambiguously elite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the umpteenth time, the only unambiguously elite colleges in this country are:

HYPSM, UChicago, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, Caltech, Williams, and Amherst.

This list + Columbia and Penn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are around 4,300 degree granting colleges in the US. Of your remove the 2 year colleges from those, that still leaves around 2,800 colleges.
Around 115 are very high output research universities. If you take even the top 25% of these, those would make about 30 universities that are very very elite. What's that list?

If you take the Nine founding members of the AAU from 1900 and then add the private universities that were inducted into this exclusive club before the end of World War II, you would get a list of the 25 or so most elite universities in the US. Then you can add in the elite public universities like Berkeley, Michigan etc. ( Maybe 10+?) , that are also on this list below, which includes all the 64 members


https://www.aau.edu/who-we-are/our-members

Add in 1% ( about 10) of the top Baccalaureate colleges and you have a working list of the very very elite institutions of this country.

LOL AAU again

Let me guess your kids school. I bet one of these;
Penn State
Indiana U
Stony Brook
Ohio
UW
U Colorado
UF
Iowa State
U Arizona
Illinois
McGill
U Iowa
UM
UTha
Michigan Sate
Kansas
Brendis
Minnesota
Missouri
Wisconsin
Oregon
Tulane
Buffalo
Rutgers
U Pitt
one of the none-UCLA non-Berkely UCs

If you are interesed in research school, here's the list of R1 Research University.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States#Universities_classified_as_%22R1:_Doctoral_Universities_%E2%80%93_Very_high_research_activity%22

Wow---you just insulted like half the country not to mention Canada. I feel sorry for many of you on this board. so much time wasted comparing to others and focusing only on the "elite"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the umpteenth time, the only unambiguously elite colleges in this country are:

HYPSM, UChicago, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, Caltech, Williams, and Amherst.

Which did you go to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the umpteenth time, the only unambiguously elite colleges in this country are:

HYPSM, UChicago, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, Caltech, Williams, and Amherst.

Nope. If we’re going to be snobby and elite, let’s be snobby and elite. HYPSM is it, thus the acronym. All the rest are more like those of the Top 25 you don’t want to admit to the club. Sounds like you’re trying to get yourself into a club where you don’t belong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the umpteenth time, the only unambiguously elite colleges in this country are:

HYPSM, UChicago, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, Caltech, Williams, and Amherst.

Nope. If we’re going to be snobby and elite, let’s be snobby and elite. HYPSM is it, thus the acronym. All the rest are more like those of the Top 25 you don’t want to admit to the club. Sounds like you’re trying to get yourself into a club where you don’t belong.

No, don't be ridiculous. It's only Harvard. Harvard is the only elite school, thus the Harvard. All the rest are more like those of the top 10 you don't want to admit to the club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the umpteenth time, the only unambiguously elite colleges in this country are:

HYPSM, UChicago, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, Caltech, Williams, and Amherst.

Which did you go to?

Princeton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is an athletic conference comprised of the elite colleges: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth.

Sometimes we include Stanford as our hip west coaster and MIT as our hyper geek for diversity purposes.

There's no objective argument to include any others into this illustrious group.

Nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top 25 unis and top 5 LACs are the elite schools in the country.

Historically, were there a lot of movements? I ask because at the end, the degree does matter when it comes to job hunting.

No. The elite schools in this country have been elite for a very, very long time. That's almost sort of the whole point. No schools that "became elite", like, last year, because they happened to pump their acceptance rate numbers or something.

No such thing as “elite schools”.

Yes, there have been schools for the elite (wealthy) fir a very, very long time. And that’s the whole point. Classism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the umpteenth time, the only unambiguously elite colleges in this country are:

HYPSM, UChicago, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, Caltech, Williams, and Amherst.

Which did you go to?

Princeton.

So, you went to Princeton, and you’re spending your time on college ranking p*ssing matches? You’re either a pathetic example of an alum or you’re lying. For Princeton’s sake, I hope it’s the latter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the umpteenth time, the only unambiguously elite colleges in this country are:

HYPSM, UChicago, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, Caltech, Williams, and Amherst.

Nope. If we’re going to be snobby and elite, let’s be snobby and elite. HYPSM is it, thus the acronym. All the rest are more like those of the Top 25 you don’t want to admit to the club. Sounds like you’re trying to get yourself into a club where you don’t belong.

No, don't be ridiculous. It's only Harvard. Harvard is the only elite school, thus the Harvard. All the rest are more like those of the top 10 you don't want to admit to the club.

Right. Then Harvard it is. Can we now end this thread?