China passes US to top output of influential science papers

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Anonymous wrote:On top of URM, legacy, athletes, and first generation ... 30% of admitted students are international.

another aggrieved trumper

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When papers originated from Chinese universities using faculty with double appointments from both Chinese and US colleges, the papers belong to China.

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Anonymous wrote:On top of URM, legacy, athletes, and first generation ... 30% of admitted students are international.

another aggrieved trumper

This is true. Shut the gates

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China passes US to top output of influential science papers
Academic strength could help further increase nation's industrial dominance

"Japan's National Institute of Science and Technology Policy counted the number of academic papers that are ranked among the top 10% in terms of citations and found that China has overtaken the U.S. and become No. 1. "

Because China doesn't do URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect. for Colleges and Academics.

The US population is 334 million. China's population is 1445 million. We have 3.34 million in our top 1% intellectually. They have 14.45 million. It was inevitable, and is remarkable that it took so long.

Yes on top of that China just selects the best students, while the US needs to worry about URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect.

They also steal and lie to obtain access to materials completed by US researchers.

Okay just keep on believing this if it makes you feel better

I deal with it everyday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On top of URM, legacy, athletes, and first generation ... 30% of admitted students are international.

another aggrieved trumper

I am a progressive Dem and think that foreign students should be limited to exchange only. 1 year max. And renounce citizenship if they want to be here longer.

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China passes US to top output of influential science papers
Academic strength could help further increase nation's industrial dominance

"Japan's National Institute of Science and Technology Policy counted the number of academic papers that are ranked among the top 10% in terms of citations and found that China has overtaken the U.S. and become No. 1. "

Because China doesn't do URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect. for Colleges and Academics.

The US population is 334 million. China's population is 1445 million. We have 3.34 million in our top 1% intellectually. They have 14.45 million. It was inevitable, and is remarkable that it took so long.

Yes on top of that China just selects the best students, while the US needs to worry about URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect.

They also steal and lie to obtain access to materials completed by US researchers.

Okay just keep on believing this if it makes you feel better

I deal with it everyday.

They certainly do steal. But if you think that's all they did to become the second largest economy (and soon to surpass US, mind you) you are fooling yourself.
We can't keep consuming ourselves with all this bunch of wokeism to be able to compete. Science is science, physical law is physical law, and the rocket can't launch if we hold back our brightest scientists and engineers just because they don't fit the quota of certain identity categories. We all may fall to the communism regime in a couple of decades if we allow the trend to continue. We should position our scientists and engineers solely based on merit, not any other criteria. We don't have much time to squander.

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China passes US to top output of influential science papers
Academic strength could help further increase nation's industrial dominance

"Japan's National Institute of Science and Technology Policy counted the number of academic papers that are ranked among the top 10% in terms of citations and found that China has overtaken the U.S. and become No. 1. "

Because China doesn't do URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect. for Colleges and Academics.

The US population is 334 million. China's population is 1445 million. We have 3.34 million in our top 1% intellectually. They have 14.45 million. It was inevitable, and is remarkable that it took so long.

Yes on top of that China just selects the best students, while the US needs to worry about URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect.

They also steal and lie to obtain access to materials completed by US researchers.

Okay just keep on believing this if it makes you feel better

I deal with it everyday.

They certainly do steal. But if you think that's all they did to become the second largest economy (and soon to surpass US, mind you) you are fooling yourself.
We can't keep consuming ourselves with all this bunch of wokeism to be able to compete. Science is science, physical law is physical law, and the rocket can't launch if we hold back our brightest scientists and engineers just because they don't fit the quota of certain identity categories. We all may fall to the communism regime in a couple of decades if we allow the trend to continue. We should position our scientists and engineers solely based on merit, not any other criteria. We don't have much time to squander.

Well, that's just stupid. China will become the #1 economy because they have more people. The thing the US should be doing is dramatically increasing immigration. Many millions per year more.

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According to DH's anecdotal data, for every single engineering-related patent that is newly filed with the US PTO, 19 out of 20 are written by Ph.D's in China or India. I'll try to find data to back up this claim of course. I'm sure U.S. research institutions have taken note but it's probably too late to catch up at this point.

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China passes US to top output of influential science papers
Academic strength could help further increase nation's industrial dominance

"Japan's National Institute of Science and Technology Policy counted the number of academic papers that are ranked among the top 10% in terms of citations and found that China has overtaken the U.S. and become No. 1. "

Because China doesn't do URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect. for Colleges and Academics.

The US population is 334 million. China's population is 1445 million. We have 3.34 million in our top 1% intellectually. They have 14.45 million. It was inevitable, and is remarkable that it took so long.

Yes on top of that China just selects the best students, while the US needs to worry about URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect.

Even in the face of data, you return to the point you wanted to make from the start. Like a broken record.

Given their unprecedented population advantage, China should be FAR ahead of other countries. What has taken them so very long to catch up?

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Here is the other dirty little secret about the science coming out of China:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-03613-1

It is a lot easier to publish when you fudge results and plagarize other people's work.

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China passes US to top output of influential science papers
Academic strength could help further increase nation's industrial dominance

"Japan's National Institute of Science and Technology Policy counted the number of academic papers that are ranked among the top 10% in terms of citations and found that China has overtaken the U.S. and become No. 1. "

Because China doesn't do URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect. for Colleges and Academics.

The US population is 334 million. China's population is 1445 million. We have 3.34 million in our top 1% intellectually. They have 14.45 million. It was inevitable, and is remarkable that it took so long.

Yes on top of that China just selects the best students, while the US needs to worry about URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect.

They also steal and lie to obtain access to materials completed by US researchers.

Okay just keep on believing this if it makes you feel better

I deal with it everyday.

They certainly do steal. But if you think that's all they did to become the second largest economy (and soon to surpass US, mind you) you are fooling yourself.
We can't keep consuming ourselves with all this bunch of wokeism to be able to compete. Science is science, physical law is physical law, and the rocket can't launch if we hold back our brightest scientists and engineers just because they don't fit the quota of certain identity categories. We all may fall to the communism regime in a couple of decades if we allow the trend to continue. We should position our scientists and engineers solely based on merit, not any other criteria. We don't have much time to squander.

Look at our grad school STEM programs. Where do you think those students are from? Hint: most are not even American. URM do not have time and money to spend wasting away in PhD programs.

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International students coming to the US have deep pockets.

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The US has made most STEM careers unattractive to US citizens (outside of tech). The UMC want to do law and finance (maybe medicine), but a science career is generally difficult and not well compensated, except for the very top researchers.

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China passes US to top output of influential science papers
Academic strength could help further increase nation's industrial dominance

"Japan's National Institute of Science and Technology Policy counted the number of academic papers that are ranked among the top 10% in terms of citations and found that China has overtaken the U.S. and become No. 1. "

Because China doesn't do URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect. for Colleges and Academics.

The best students who have never expressed the wrong opinions in the wrong forums
The US population is 334 million. China's population is 1445 million. We have 3.34 million in our top 1% intellectually. They have 14.45 million. It was inevitable, and is remarkable that it took so long.

Yes on top of that China just selects the best students, while the US needs to worry about URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect.

Does China have URMs? Maybe the Uyghurs, but I doubt China is interested in making sure they are well educated.

Surely you jest, China has whole camps dedicated to Uyghur education

You are confusing indoctrination with education.

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China passes US to top output of influential science papers
Academic strength could help further increase nation's industrial dominance

"Japan's National Institute of Science and Technology Policy counted the number of academic papers that are ranked among the top 10% in terms of citations and found that China has overtaken the U.S. and become No. 1. "

Because China doesn't do URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect. for Colleges and Academics.

The best students who have never expressed the wrong opinions in the wrong forums
The US population is 334 million. China's population is 1445 million. We have 3.34 million in our top 1% intellectually. They have 14.45 million. It was inevitable, and is remarkable that it took so long.

Yes on top of that China just selects the best students, while the US needs to worry about URM, Legacy, First Gen, Athlete, LGBTQ+, ect.

Does China have URMs? Maybe the Uyghurs, but I doubt China is interested in making sure they are well educated.

Surely you jest, China has whole camps dedicated to Uyghur education

You are confusing indoctrination with education.

The comment was sarcasm.