Pew Research: in 40 years, the GOP has become twice as conservative

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Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that the forum moderator here erases any posts calling out the double standard with this study. I’d like to see a corresponding study on the left, on their obsession with ideological purity, litmus tests, and moral absolutism. I’d really love to just be able to write this post without the mod erasing it again. All I said was that the left has the same fervor as the right, just for other things, like their policies toward crime and education, but I guess my post was too much for this thread. It didn’t comport with the liberal narrative and was this deleted. Can’t risk jeopardizing those ad clicks from forum advertising I guess.

I personally come here to read and try to understand other viewpoints than my own, and I think the forum is much more interesting to read when there is a civil back and forth debating both sides, but the owner has the right to shape the opinions as they see fit. Sometimes things get off track of the original post, so I can see editing in those situations, but that is often not the case. I only come here/post sporadically now.

My post wasn’t off track. I merely posited that the left has become more liberal in the same sense as the right, just in different ways. Whereas controlling the voting booth, women's bodies, and white Christian nationalism has risen on the right. A similar fervor has been rising on the left, but it manifests itself on college campuses by mobs yelling down invited guests, or squelching honest discussion of crime or education policies from the left. They’ve gone so far afield into combating structural racism through a vague campaign of “equity”, that you can’t criticize them lest be called a racist. I’m saying when liberal da’s and liberal city councils propose pretty left wing nutty stuff like expanding the youth rehab act to cover 26 years olds, or paying millions for useless “violence interruptors” that don’t solve crime, rather than actually prosecuting and arresting in the face of rising crime there is an issue with those policies and they are super far left. Or canceling Gifted and talented classes, or making ap for all, or ending race neutral entrance exams for rigorous high schools simply to let more people in, regardless if they can actually handle the workload, it seems like bad policy. I’m also annoyed that saying the left is as morally rigid as the right leads to the post being deleted. It’s not off track with the thread. It’s on point: it’s just too tough a convo to have apparently and just goes back to left wing censorship.

The left has swayed so far into s

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Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that the forum moderator here erases any posts calling out the double standard with this study. I’d like to see a corresponding study on the left, on their obsession with ideological purity, litmus tests, and moral absolutism. I’d really love to just be able to write this post without the mod erasing it again. All I said was that the left has the same fervor as the right, just for other things, like their policies toward crime and education, but I guess my post was too much for this thread. It didn’t comport with the liberal narrative and was this deleted. Can’t risk jeopardizing those ad clicks from forum advertising I guess.

I personally come here to read and try to understand other viewpoints than my own, and I think the forum is much more interesting to read when there is a civil back and forth debating both sides, but the owner has the right to shape the opinions as they see fit. Sometimes things get off track of the original post, so I can see editing in those situations, but that is often not the case. I only come here/post sporadically now.

My post wasn’t off track. I merely posited that the left has become more liberal in the same sense as the right, just in different ways. Whereas controlling the voting booth, women's bodies, and white Christian nationalism has risen on the right. A similar fervor has been rising on the left, but it manifests itself on college campuses by mobs yelling down invited guests, or squelching honest discussion of crime or education policies from the left. They’ve gone so far afield into combating structural racism through a vague campaign of “equity”, that you can’t criticize them lest be called a racist. I’m saying when liberal da’s and liberal city councils propose pretty left wing nutty stuff like expanding the youth rehab act to cover 26 years olds, or paying millions for useless “violence interruptors” that don’t solve crime, rather than actually prosecuting and arresting in the face of rising crime there is an issue with those policies and they are super far left. Or canceling Gifted and talented classes, or making ap for all, or ending race neutral entrance exams for rigorous high schools simply to let more people in, regardless if they can actually handle the workload, it seems like bad policy. I’m also annoyed that saying the left is as morally rigid as the right leads to the post being deleted. It’s not off track with the thread. It’s on point: it’s just too tough a convo to have apparently and just goes back to left wing censorship.

The left has swayed so far into s

We have the highest incarceration in the world, and high recidivism rates. Just sayin…

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that the forum moderator here erases any posts calling out the double standard with this study. I’d like to see a corresponding study on the left, on their obsession with ideological purity, litmus tests, and moral absolutism. I’d really love to just be able to write this post without the mod erasing it again. All I said was that the left has the same fervor as the right, just for other things, like their policies toward crime and education, but I guess my post was too much for this thread. It didn’t comport with the liberal narrative and was this deleted. Can’t risk jeopardizing those ad clicks from forum advertising I guess.

I personally come here to read and try to understand other viewpoints than my own, and I think the forum is much more interesting to read when there is a civil back and forth debating both sides, but the owner has the right to shape the opinions as they see fit. Sometimes things get off track of the original post, so I can see editing in those situations, but that is often not the case. I only come here/post sporadically now.

My post wasn’t off track. I merely posited that the left has become more liberal in the same sense as the right, just in different ways. Whereas controlling the voting booth, women's bodies, and white Christian nationalism has risen on the right. A similar fervor has been rising on the left, but it manifests itself on college campuses by mobs yelling down invited guests, or squelching honest discussion of crime or education policies from the left. They’ve gone so far afield into combating structural racism through a vague campaign of “equity”, that you can’t criticize them lest be called a racist. I’m saying when liberal da’s and liberal city councils propose pretty left wing nutty stuff like expanding the youth rehab act to cover 26 years olds, or paying millions for useless “violence interruptors” that don’t solve crime, rather than actually prosecuting and arresting in the face of rising crime there is an issue with those policies and they are super far left. Or canceling Gifted and talented classes, or making ap for all, or ending race neutral entrance exams for rigorous high schools simply to let more people in, regardless if they can actually handle the workload, it seems like bad policy. I’m also annoyed that saying the left is as morally rigid as the right leads to the post being deleted. It’s not off track with the thread. It’s on point: it’s just too tough a convo to have apparently and just goes back to left wing censorship.

The left has swayed so far into s

We have the highest incarceration in the world, and high recidivism rates. Just sayin…

Cool. I’m sure I’ll be considering that of prime importance next time a 17 year old with a history of violence and a long arrest record hits me with a brick in the head, but is summarily arrested and immediately let off because of a lenient left wing judge or policy instituted by folks like Charles Allen.

The left is willing to become so much more lenient in their quest. Im sure this post will be deleted, but it is germane to the discussion of both sides growing more in their own directions whichever that may be.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that the forum moderator here erases any posts calling out the double standard with this study. I’d like to see a corresponding study on the left, on their obsession with ideological purity, litmus tests, and moral absolutism. I’d really love to just be able to write this post without the mod erasing it again. All I said was that the left has the same fervor as the right, just for other things, like their policies toward crime and education, but I guess my post was too much for this thread. It didn’t comport with the liberal narrative and was this deleted. Can’t risk jeopardizing those ad clicks from forum advertising I guess.

I personally come here to read and try to understand other viewpoints than my own, and I think the forum is much more interesting to read when there is a civil back and forth debating both sides, but the owner has the right to shape the opinions as they see fit. Sometimes things get off track of the original post, so I can see editing in those situations, but that is often not the case. I only come here/post sporadically now.

My post wasn’t off track. I merely posited that the left has become more liberal in the same sense as the right, just in different ways. Whereas controlling the voting booth, women's bodies, and white Christian nationalism has risen on the right. A similar fervor has been rising on the left, but it manifests itself on college campuses by mobs yelling down invited guests, or squelching honest discussion of crime or education policies from the left. They’ve gone so far afield into combating structural racism through a vague campaign of “equity”, that you can’t criticize them lest be called a racist. I’m saying when liberal da’s and liberal city councils propose pretty left wing nutty stuff like expanding the youth rehab act to cover 26 years olds, or paying millions for useless “violence interruptors” that don’t solve crime, rather than actually prosecuting and arresting in the face of rising crime there is an issue with those policies and they are super far left. Or canceling Gifted and talented classes, or making ap for all, or ending race neutral entrance exams for rigorous high schools simply to let more people in, regardless if they can actually handle the workload, it seems like bad policy. I’m also annoyed that saying the left is as morally rigid as the right leads to the post being deleted. It’s not off track with the thread. It’s on point: it’s just too tough a convo to have apparently and just goes back to left wing censorship.

The left has swayed so far into s

We have the highest incarceration in the world, and high recidivism rates. Just sayin…

Cool. I’m sure I’ll be considering that of prime importance next time a 17 year old with a history of violence and a long arrest record hits me with a brick in the head, but is summarily arrested and immediately let off because of a lenient left wing judge or policy instituted by folks like Charles Allen.

The left is willing to become so much more lenient in their quest. Im sure this post will be deleted, but it is germane to the discussion of both sides growing more in their own directions whichever that may be.

And the right wants more of these people born. That’s what you’re actively doing in attacking legal abortion and birth control. Don’t force women to bear children they don’t want or can’t care for and enjoy the drop in criminals later.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that the forum moderator here erases any posts calling out the double standard with this study. I’d like to see a corresponding study on the left, on their obsession with ideological purity, litmus tests, and moral absolutism. I’d really love to just be able to write this post without the mod erasing it again. All I said was that the left has the same fervor as the right, just for other things, like their policies toward crime and education, but I guess my post was too much for this thread. It didn’t comport with the liberal narrative and was this deleted. Can’t risk jeopardizing those ad clicks from forum advertising I guess.

What policy on crime? What national policy put forth by a Democratic is soft on crime.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that the forum moderator here erases any posts calling out the double standard with this study. I’d like to see a corresponding study on the left, on their obsession with ideological purity, litmus tests, and moral absolutism. I’d really love to just be able to write this post without the mod erasing it again. All I said was that the left has the same fervor as the right, just for other things, like their policies toward crime and education, but I guess my post was too much for this thread. It didn’t comport with the liberal narrative and was this deleted. Can’t risk jeopardizing those ad clicks from forum advertising I guess.

I personally come here to read and try to understand other viewpoints than my own, and I think the forum is much more interesting to read when there is a civil back and forth debating both sides, but the owner has the right to shape the opinions as they see fit. Sometimes things get off track of the original post, so I can see editing in those situations, but that is often not the case. I only come here/post sporadically now.

My post wasn’t off track. I merely posited that the left has become more liberal in the same sense as the right, just in different ways. Whereas controlling the voting booth, women's bodies, and white Christian nationalism has risen on the right. A similar fervor has been rising on the left, but it manifests itself on college campuses by mobs yelling down invited guests, or squelching honest discussion of crime or education policies from the left. They’ve gone so far afield into combating structural racism through a vague campaign of “equity”, that you can’t criticize them lest be called a racist. I’m saying when liberal da’s and liberal city councils propose pretty left wing nutty stuff like expanding the youth rehab act to cover 26 years olds, or paying millions for useless “violence interruptors” that don’t solve crime, rather than actually prosecuting and arresting in the face of rising crime there is an issue with those policies and they are super far left. Or canceling Gifted and talented classes, or making ap for all, or ending race neutral entrance exams for rigorous high schools simply to let more people in, regardless if they can actually handle the workload, it seems like bad policy. I’m also annoyed that saying the left is as morally rigid as the right leads to the post being deleted. It’s not off track with the thread. It’s on point: it’s just too tough a convo to have apparently and just goes back to left wing censorship.

The left has swayed so far into s

We have the highest incarceration in the world, and high recidivism rates. Just sayin…

Cool. I’m sure I’ll be considering that of prime importance next time a 17 year old with a history of violence and a long arrest record hits me with a brick in the head, but is summarily arrested and immediately let off because of a lenient left wing judge or policy instituted by folks like Charles Allen.

The left is willing to become so much more lenient in their quest. Im sure this post will be deleted, but it is germane to the discussion of both sides growing more in their own directions whichever that may be.

And the right wants more of these people born. That’s what you’re actively doing in attacking legal abortion and birth control. Don’t force women to bear children they don’t want or can’t care for and enjoy the drop in criminals later.

Truth! Actual statistics back this up.

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Anonymous wrote:The shift in both parties is largely the result of the 1994 and 2010 elections in which moderate Democrats in right-leaning districts were replaced by paranoid idiot Republicans. Then when the Democrats took back seats in 2006 and 2018 they beat more moderate suburban Republicans, not the lunatics.

And those people in the moderate suburbs have now seen exactly what “moderate” democrats are - and will be tossing them out in November.

I bet you’re claiming to be a “staunch Democrat” on other threads tonight, aren’t you.

The fact of the GOP’s extremism are evident to all, as is the risk that they pose to the US.

For example, here are two cases of right wing extremist movements that are currently posing a threat to the country’s safety (along with many other right wing domestic terrorists such as what we saw on 1/6). These people are totally welcome and at home in the GOP:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/incel-threat-secret-service-report/?dc_data=1131694_samsung-carnival-us&utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=taboola_news&utm_campaign=ECCBSiCBSNews&ui=e305b5ff-f116-401e-ae93-5bc95e33ef3f-tuct925560b

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2022/03/08/they-are-preparing-war-an-expert-civil-wars-discusses-where-political-extremists-are-taking-this-country/

I don't discount what the GOP did and did not do on Jan 6th. I also think the 'there's a civil war coming!' people are nuts. Isn't Covid enough for you? If not that - you're welcome to focus your militant dreams on what's happening in Ukraine.

As far as normal domestic policy goes, you'll be very surprised as how more moderate people become when they can't buy milk in the aisles.

What do you imagine that Republicans would do about inflation? They are incapable of anything but obstruction in Congress. They have no coherent policy agenda. They can’t discuss the economy or inflation or anything else without a half dozen lies, distortions, and absurd conspiracies. We have inflation because we are in an economic boom after a severe disruption that reshuffled the global economy. Jobs and profits are way up. Poverty is down. It’s much better than 2020 even with inflation.

To start they’d reopen the pipelines to lower gas prices, introduce a gas tax holiday nationally and encourage businesses who need the gas to deliver goods and services. Passing along savings to consumers.

Practical ideas that work and before you say ‘that wouldn’t happen’ can I point you to this?

I knew you would say pipelines! Pipelines do not create new oil & gas. They are a distribution method for oil & gas we are already getting. Starting or restarting pipeline projects would have no effect on supply or price.

Bottlenecking increases price - no one told you that?

That isn’t what is happening. Pipelines are irrelevant. But they do serve as a tell to identify clueless people who think a pipeline project is a solution to temporary inflation.