Is NYU worth the cost for CS

[Anonymous]

DS is an 11th grader and interested in CS. Really likes NYU and WM. I don't know how that is even possible. They mind of a 17yo...

[Anonymous]

I went to NYU.

No way in hell is it worth $200K+ more for a CS trade-school degree. Go to VT, save the money, and give your kid a down payment on their first condo.

Now, if your kid was double-majoring in CS and Applied Math at Courant, then I'd probably spring for NYU. Because Courant is well-renowned and at that point my kid is very likely targeting academia.

But if your kid wants to be a programmer and get a grinder job at Amazon or Facebook with equity targets, just pay in-state tuition at VT or W&M.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to NYU.

No way in hell is it worth $200K+ more for a CS trade-school degree. Go to VT, save the money, and give your kid a down payment on their first condo.

Now, if your kid was double-majoring in CS and Applied Math at Courant, then I'd probably spring for NYU. Because Courant is well-renowned and at that point my kid is very likely targeting academia.

But if your kid wants to be a programmer and get a grinder job at Amazon or Facebook with equity targets, just pay in-state tuition at VT or W&M.

PP, chance me for a grinder job at Amazon or Facebook with equity targets from NYU and VT/W&M. Keep in mind FAANG jobs are lottery jobs not everyone can get.

[Anonymous]

OP, a friend of mine regretted sending his two kids to NYU. The hidden costs were enormous. Both children wanted to stay the summer for classes or internships, which resulted in obscene apartment and living fees not expected on top of the tuittion, airfare, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, a friend of mine regretted sending his two kids to NYU. The hidden costs were enormous. Both children wanted to stay the summer for classes or internships, which resulted in obscene apartment and living fees not expected on top of the tuittion, airfare, etc.

Internships often come with housing allowances.

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Anonymous wrote:NYU isn't worth the cost, no matter the major.

How about Yale CS vs VT CS instate for you

NYU is no Yale, so there's that.

So what's the answer?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, a friend of mine regretted sending his two kids to NYU. The hidden costs were enormous. Both children wanted to stay the summer for classes or internships, which resulted in obscene apartment and living fees not expected on top of the tuittion, airfare, etc.

Internships often come with housing allowances.

Not at media companies, nonprofits, small start-ups, etc. Vast majority of college kids do not get corporate internships with all the luxe benefits of housing, a strong biweekly paycheck, etc.

[Anonymous]

I would say VA Tech is your best bet. The only reason I could justify NYU would be great internship opportunities, but I'll bet VA Tech has those too.

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Anonymous wrote:Is any school worth 70-80k/year?!

Of course! Do you think rich parents that send their kids to top schools are all fools and you are somehow smarter than them?

Yes. IMO, it’s foolish to select an expensive private school when a less expensive option with equal educational opportunities is available, even if you are wealthy enough to afford it. I also bought a Toyota when I could afford a much more expensive car though. Obviously, lots of people don’t agree though and that is fine.

A lot of people buy Prada and Gucci while Coach does a perfectly fine job, maybe because they are rich enough and/or they really like it .

By your logic, GMU would be the best bang for the buck for the folks in NOVA, however people still go to VT, UVA, W&M.

Every kid and every family is unique, that's why we have many options.

Another key word is CS. CS major has the privilege that you can go pretty much anywhere.

I think the issue is that NYU doesn’t offer the small classes and personalized environment of most private colleges. It operates more on the scale of State U, so why pay triple the cost for the same thing?

I think the reason is that some of their undergraduate colleges and specialty majors are among the best. Stern College of Business, for example, has few peers and has unequaled access to Wall Street. Tisch School of the Arts is one of the Big 4 for film, all of its performing arts are great, and it has ready access to the NY theater and music scene. Engineering, on the other hand, is nothing special that you can’t get anywhere else.

So, NYU is a school where a consumer needs to be discerning. Worth the price for the right major but not for some others unless you have a lot of money and desperately want to be in Manhattan.

My kid who attended NYU had small classes, excellent counseling (much more individual attention than my kid who attended Georgetown) and it was academically rigorous. I was actually very impressed by how much he grew at his time in NYU. He did not major in computer science so I'm not going to comment on that aspect, but academically, NYU is an excellent school.

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Anonymous wrote:Is any school worth 70-80k/year?!

Of course! Do you think rich parents that send their kids to top schools are all fools and you are somehow smarter than them?

Yes. IMO, it’s foolish to select an expensive private school when a less expensive option with equal educational opportunities is available, even if you are wealthy enough to afford it. I also bought a Toyota when I could afford a much more expensive car though. Obviously, lots of people don’t agree though and that is fine.

A lot of people buy Prada and Gucci while Coach does a perfectly fine job, maybe because they are rich enough and/or they really like it .

By your logic, GMU would be the best bang for the buck for the folks in NOVA, however people still go to VT, UVA, W&M.

Every kid and every family is unique, that's why we have many options.

Another key word is CS. CS major has the privilege that you can go pretty much anywhere.

I think the issue is that NYU doesn’t offer the small classes and personalized environment of most private colleges. It operates more on the scale of State U, so why pay triple the cost for the same thing?

I think the reason is that some of their undergraduate colleges and specialty majors are among the best. Stern College of Business, for example, has few peers and has unequaled access to Wall Street. Tisch School of the Arts is one of the Big 4 for film, all of its performing arts are great, and it has ready access to the NY theater and music scene. Engineering, on the other hand, is nothing special that you can’t get anywhere else.

So, NYU is a school where a consumer needs to be discerning. Worth the price for the right major but not for some others unless you have a lot of money and desperately want to be in Manhattan.

My kid who attended NYU had small classes, excellent counseling (much more individual attention than my kid who attended Georgetown) and it was academically rigorous. I was actually very impressed by how much he grew at his time in NYU. He did not major in computer science so I'm not going to comment on that aspect, but academically, NYU is an excellent school.

What was your kid’s major?

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Anonymous wrote:I would say VA Tech is your best bet. The only reason I could justify NYU would be great internship opportunities, but I'll bet VA Tech has those too.

Internships lead to full time jobs. We need info on what kind of companies NYU and VTech students end up at. If NYU gives a preference at FAANG whereas VTech is best for a local bakery shop needing a website, there’s no comparison.

[Anonymous]

There is a lot of wealth at NYU. I know current undergrads who live at Trump tower Columbus circle. Be prepared for a Very different student body and a very different lifestyle. NYU has NYC as the campus as all the glory fun challenges and price tags that that brings

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Anonymous wrote:I went to NYU.

No way in hell is it worth $200K+ more for a CS trade-school degree. Go to VT, save the money, and give your kid a down payment on their first condo.

Now, if your kid was double-majoring in CS and Applied Math at Courant, then I'd probably spring for NYU. Because Courant is well-renowned and at that point my kid is very likely targeting academia.

But if your kid wants to be a programmer and get a grinder job at Amazon or Facebook with equity targets, just pay in-state tuition at VT or W&M.

Lol…..well-renowned.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to NYU.

No way in hell is it worth $200K+ more for a CS trade-school degree. Go to VT, save the money, and give your kid a down payment on their first condo.

Now, if your kid was double-majoring in CS and Applied Math at Courant, then I'd probably spring for NYU. Because Courant is well-renowned and at that point my kid is very likely targeting academia.

But if your kid wants to be a programmer and get a grinder job at Amazon or Facebook with equity targets, just pay in-state tuition at VT or W&M.

^^ Probably from a tenured clown.. Go to VT. Get that tech job and make enough money in 10 years that a tenure tracker will make in 30. After those 10 years, if you get the hankering to teach, find a funded PhD program somewhere, get tenured and coast.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to NYU.

No way in hell is it worth $200K+ more for a CS trade-school degree. Go to VT, save the money, and give your kid a down payment on their first condo.

Now, if your kid was double-majoring in CS and Applied Math at Courant, then I'd probably spring for NYU. Because Courant is well-renowned and at that point my kid is very likely targeting academia.

But if your kid wants to be a programmer and get a grinder job at Amazon or Facebook with equity targets, just pay in-state tuition at VT or W&M.

^^ Probably from a tenured clown.. Go to VT. Get that tech job and make enough money in 10 years that a tenure tracker will make in 30. After those 10 years, if you get the hankering to teach, find a funded PhD program somewhere, get tenured and coast.

You and I are not in disagreement. If OP's kid wants to get a CS degree to work in tech, the family will get a better ROI from VT or W&M.

The real advantage of NYU is the ability to do internships throughout the year in NYC. You can intern at Google, Meta, Snap, etc during the school year and will have a lot less competition for those positions.