Bullis or SJC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bullis Class of 2021:

Brown: 1
Cornell: 2
Dartmouth: 3
Harvard: 2
Penn: 3
Yale: 1

SJC does not appear to provide year-specific matriculation data.

How many of these are athletic recruits? All, right? How many were URM athletic recruits?

I think it’s important to provide that specific context in all of these many, many threads. Also legacy info.

Not just for Bullis but since we’re here … the above list, without context, would lead the uninitiated to think that Bullis is some sort of academic powerhouse and preparation for the world’s best academic institutions. When in fact is an average high school with several well-oiled sports pipelines.

Same phenomenon happens at our big 3 — but the difference is that at our school there are additional buckets of Ivy-bound kids who aren’t athletic recruits or even legacies

I’m fully prepared to believe that most Bullis Ivy-bound kids are athletic recruits or URM athletic recruits.

I suspect the same is true for most other schools, including your “Big 3” school. Unless a school breaks down admit/matriculation lists by recruited athletes, legacies, donor hooks, etc., that’s just what I’m going to think. Does your kid’s school publish those data?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bullis Class of 2021:

Brown: 1
Cornell: 2
Dartmouth: 3
Harvard: 2
Penn: 3
Yale: 1

SJC does not appear to provide year-specific matriculation data.

How many of these are athletic recruits? All, right? How many were URM athletic recruits?

I think it’s important to provide that specific context in all of these many, many threads. Also legacy info.

Not just for Bullis but since we’re here … the above list, without context, would lead the uninitiated to think that Bullis is some sort of academic powerhouse and preparation for the world’s best academic institutions. When in fact is an average high school with several well-oiled sports pipelines.

Same phenomenon happens at our big 3 — but the difference is that at our school there are additional buckets of Ivy-bound kids who aren’t athletic recruits or even legacies

I’m fully prepared to believe that most Bullis Ivy-bound kids are athletic recruits or URM athletic recruits.

I suspect the same is true for most other schools, including your “Big 3” school. Unless a school breaks down admit/matriculation lists by recruited athletes, legacies, donor hooks, etc., that’s just what I’m going to think. Does your kid’s school publish those data?

Right. It’s true for every school. The people trying to make it out like this is a Bullis thing just have a weird obsession with putting Bullis down. Frankly, they need to go to therapy to address their singular obsession with this school. It’s almost pathological.

[Anonymous]

I just don't get these threads. While on the surface maybe these schools seem similar, but, if you have done your research, you will understand that Bullis and SJC draw from completely different communities and are not similar at all.

Pull out the course catalogs and map out a four year plan at each school. See what courses your kid will be taking. See if and what kind of community service requirement there is.

What sport does your kid want to play? People can tell you if they will have a shot of making the team at either school.

As for "college placements". This isn't the early 90s. No privates (even the big 3) are "placing" your kid at a college.

[Anonymous]

Back to the original question: What in the world makes Bullis feel they can charge more than the Big 3/Big 5??? They do not offer more than any other school and some would say they offer way less. Certainly, the reputation is weak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question: What in the world makes Bullis feel they can charge more than the Big 3/Big 5??? They do not offer more than any other school and some would say they offer way less. Certainly, the reputation is weak.

Only in the weird world of DCUM. Bullis has a materials lab for the older students and design room for younger students. The arts facilities are amazing. They have the largest manual lighting grid in the DC area, in their theater. They have the ability to do full set designs. I have a feeling you’ve never been on their campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question: What in the world makes Bullis feel they can charge more than the Big 3/Big 5??? They do not offer more than any other school and some would say they offer way less. Certainly, the reputation is weak.

They are filling the school and getting far more applications than spots, so perhaps your assumptions are, umm, not accurate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question: What in the world makes Bullis feel they can charge more than the Big 3/Big 5??? They do not offer more than any other school and some would say they offer way less. Certainly, the reputation is weak.

They are filling the school and getting far more applications than spots, so perhaps your assumptions are, umm, not accurate.

I'm sorry, Bullis does not have the track record of schools that have done a great job for decades and decades. Great that things are improving. But I suspect that hubris to charge higher tuition than great schools is to make up for the mismanagement and corruption of the previous HOS. Is that fair to ask current families to shoulder the responsibility for years of unethical leadership?

And again, EVERY SINGLE school in MoCo is getting far more applications than spots due to Covid. MCPS has been experiencing an exodus to the privates - no reflection on most of the schools people are applying to. Perhaps look at schools who have had that level of applications always.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question: What in the world makes Bullis feel they can charge more than the Big 3/Big 5??? They do not offer more than any other school and some would say they offer way less. Certainly, the reputation is weak.

They are filling the school and getting far more applications than spots, so perhaps your assumptions are, umm, not accurate.

I'm sorry, Bullis does not have the track record of schools that have done a great job for decades and decades. Great that things are improving. But I suspect that hubris to charge higher tuition than great schools is to make up for the mismanagement and corruption of the previous HOS. Is that fair to ask current families to shoulder the responsibility for years of unethical leadership?

And again, EVERY SINGLE school in MoCo is getting far more applications than spots due to Covid. MCPS has been experiencing an exodus to the privates - no reflection on most of the schools people are applying to. Perhaps look at schools who have had that level of applications always.

Do you just spend all day bashing this school? You come across as honestly pathetic.

[Anonymous]

If you have the money go to Bullis. It is a Disneyland. Everybody happy and at the end they place very well. Ivies want a certain threshold and people that can pay. Bullis deliver it. Escape the torture and misery of putting your kid through a lot of stress in high school as a principle for success. If you do not have the money, suck it up and tell your kids they will need to work harder. This life. Money buys many things....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bullis Class of 2021:

Brown: 1
Cornell: 2
Dartmouth: 3
Harvard: 2
Penn: 3
Yale: 1

SJC does not appear to provide year-specific matriculation data.

DS is a senior at Bullis and they do have quite a few kids already accepted ED at Ivy’s including 3 going to Penn, 2 going to Brown. Those are just the kids he knows well. As much as I hate the price tag it is a great school with great college placement. I personally did not like our college counselor but I hear others are very good. My DS did get in ED2 to a top non Ivy school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you have the money go to Bullis. It is a Disneyland. Everybody happy and at the end they place very well. Ivies want a certain threshold and people that can pay. Bullis deliver it. Escape the torture and misery of putting your kid through a lot of stress in high school as a principle for success. If you do not have the money, suck it up and tell your kids they will need to work harder. This life. Money buys many things....

Bullis parent in a nutshell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question: What in the world makes Bullis feel they can charge more than the Big 3/Big 5??? They do not offer more than any other school and some would say they offer way less. Certainly, the reputation is weak.

They are filling the school and getting far more applications than spots, so perhaps your assumptions are, umm, not accurate.

I'm sorry, Bullis does not have the track record of schools that have done a great job for decades and decades. Great that things are improving. But I suspect that hubris to charge higher tuition than great schools is to make up for the mismanagement and corruption of the previous HOS. Is that fair to ask current families to shoulder the responsibility for years of unethical leadership?

And again, EVERY SINGLE school in MoCo is getting far more applications than spots due to Covid. MCPS has been experiencing an exodus to the privates - no reflection on most of the schools people are applying to. Perhaps look at schools who have had that level of applications always.

Do you just spend all day bashing this school? You come across as honestly pathetic.

Maret used to have a shitty reputation when I was growing up in DC. It was definitely the backup/safety private school. I’m in my mid-40s.
Things can change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you have the money go to Bullis. It is a Disneyland. Everybody happy and at the end they place very well. Ivies want a certain threshold and people that can pay. Bullis deliver it. Escape the torture and misery of putting your kid through a lot of stress in high school as a principle for success. If you do not have the money, suck it up and tell your kids they will need to work harder. This life. Money buys many things....

Bullis parent in a nutshell.

Yes, because no one else believes that …

[Anonymous]

SJC alumni here and I am an assistant principal at a school as my career. SJC hands down! Your child will be prepared for college and beyond.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Current Bullis family here -- our child is a Senior. We have been very happy with the Bullis community and academics. Many kids in the current Senior class are already placed in Ivies and top 5 schools -- they're absolute non-athletes. There are also great student-athletes already accepted at top schools. I would recommend talking to Bullis families directly. It's a great school.

this is just not true.

This is true. I’m sure the Bullis college counseling office, which is fantastic, would be happy to talk to you.

Give us numbers. It just isn't true.

Thanks for calling me a liar. My child is one of them. What would you like? GPA? School accepted? Resumes and essays?

There were FOUR Ivy admits last year at Bullis who were not sports recruits. It's all public info on Bullis' web site (college admissions and athletic signings are both posted).
I'm glad you son/daughter is in this narrow number but your original posts claimed there were ""MANY kids who have already placed in Ivies who are absolutely not-athletes".
You have to admit that you are exaggerating.

Wow, that is nothing. I've had kids in both public and private and could never understand why people pay for Bullis when you could go to a good solid academically strong public 'W' school, which has better Ivy placement. It makes no sense at all and is why Bullis was never on our list.