Wesleyan--not a good player

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I think it is fairly common for NESCAC coaches to say an athlete will be on the team IF he or she can get in without the coach's help (using a slot). That means that some won't get in - that's the point.

I've never heard of deferring ED1 to ED2. I have heard of EA students being encourage to switch to ED2 but don't understand why anyone would defer to ED2 from ED1 at the same school.

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Anonymous wrote:Wesleyan rejected 25 recruits at ED1. It also denied kids who were moved from ED1 to ED2. Not a good show, Wesleyan.

Athletic recruits Not my kid but a friend's.
Yes, it ends their athletic careers. And the ED2 kids (from the Ed1 round), they were deceived of a chance to apply elsewhere for ED2.

How does that end their athletic career? They can play elsewhere right? Are athletes full pay or do they receive scholarships for their sports?

Not if they ended conversations with other schools because Wesleyan made them an offer of being on the team.

NESCAC doesn’t make offers and lol at “athletic career”.

[Anonymous]

As a Wes a,um, I will just say that I would prefer there be NO athletic recruit slots and that coaches had ZERO pull in admissions. So if this is a sign Wes is not letting in athletes who aren’t otherwise great candidates for admission, kudos to Wes.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wes a,um, I will just say that I would prefer there be NO athletic recruit slots and that coaches had ZERO pull in admissions. So if this is a sign Wes is not letting in athletes who aren’t otherwise great candidates for admission, kudos to Wes.

*alum

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Anonymous wrote:And if coaches lose their recruiting reputation they won't be able to recruit in any future years do why would they lie to players? Makes zero sense.

Agree. This sounds like the applicants misunderstood that they were getting one of the few recruiting slots. If they had to get in on their own and they were mislead, that is messed up but there is no reason a coach would do that.

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Anonymous wrote:Wesleyan rejected 25 recruits at ED1. It also denied kids who were moved from ED1 to ED2. Not a good show, Wesleyan.

Athletic recruits Not my kid but a friend's.
Yes, it ends their athletic careers. And the ED2 kids (from the Ed1 round), they were deceived of a chance to apply elsewhere for ED2.

How does that end their athletic career? They can play elsewhere right? Are athletes full pay or do they receive scholarships for their sports?

Not if they ended conversations with other schools because Wesleyan made them an offer of being on the team.

NESCAC doesn’t make offers and lol at “athletic career”.

NESCAC does make offers. There is a process. If an athlete went through the process, got a positive pre-read (a statement from admissions that they've reviewed his/her file and will admit if the coach supports the application) and a promise of support, and then didn't get in that violates the process, and seems unfair.

And yes, if an athlete was offered a chance to play at multiple schools, and turned the others down because Wesleyan promised a spot, that's unethical and can end up with a kid who wanted to play in college not being able to. If Wesleyan said those kids could play if they got in without coach support that''s different.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the coach say these students were protected through admission? The coach only gets a very small number of these and they still need to pass pre read but nothing like 25. Some of those players must have misunderstood that they were to given admission no matter what. Or the coach mislead them which is terrible.

Wesleyan has 28 teams, and each will have several spots. So, definitely more than 25.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wes a,um, I will just say that I would prefer there be NO athletic recruit slots and that coaches had ZERO pull in admissions. So if this is a sign Wes is not letting in athletes who aren’t otherwise great candidates for admission, kudos to Wes.

Sure but it is really terrible to recruit then. The bait and switch is really awful.

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I find no small amount of enjoyment that rich, privileged athletes didn't get what they want in this instance.

They will be fine, just not at Wes.

This is a REALLY bad look for any adult. Not only do you make some seriously questionable assumptions, but you are a (supposed) grown-up wishing crappy things to happen to a 17-18 year old kid after what has already been a miserable two years for that cohort. Shameful.

Also, the recruited athletes chose to use their one ED app in reliance on what was clearly misleading information. Not a good look for the school, and it's an unfortunate lesson for those kids that many adults are not reliable.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wes a,um, I will just say that I would prefer there be NO athletic recruit slots and that coaches had ZERO pull in admissions. So if this is a sign Wes is not letting in athletes who aren’t otherwise great candidates for admission, kudos to Wes.

The way to handle that would be to announce that they aren't recruiting this year. Not to offer kids a spot, and then turn them down.

The recruitment process for D3 all takes place during ED. A student athlete accepts an offer, and then withdraws from all other conversations. It's similar to the way a student who goes through the regular admissions cycle withdraws other applications after an ED admit. So, if this is true (and I have no idea) it's like telling kids who got in ED, and withdrew their other applications, that you changed your mind and decided not to have ED this year. Whether or not you think a school should have ED, that's not the way to go around it.

Hopefully this will turn out not to be true.

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I find no small amount of enjoyment that rich, privileged athletes didn't get what they want in this instance.

They will be fine, just not at Wes.

This is a REALLY bad look for any adult. Not only do you make some seriously questionable assumptions, but you are a (supposed) grown-up wishing crappy things to happen to a 17-18 year old kid after what has already been a miserable two years for that cohort. Shameful.

Also, the recruited athletes chose to use their one ED app in reliance on what was clearly misleading information. Not a good look for the school, and it's an unfortunate lesson for those kids that many adults are not reliable.

What about the non rich onea?

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Anonymous wrote:

I find no small amount of enjoyment that rich, privileged athletes didn't get what they want in this instance.

They will be fine, just not at Wes.

This is a REALLY bad look for any adult. Not only do you make some seriously questionable assumptions, but you are a (supposed) grown-up wishing crappy things to happen to a 17-18 year old kid after what has already been a miserable two years for that cohort. Shameful.

Also, the recruited athletes chose to use their one ED app in reliance on what was clearly misleading information. Not a good look for the school, and it's an unfortunate lesson for those kids that many adults are not reliable.

I think that PP is one of DCUMs super deranged anti athlete posters. What they say about kids is disturbing on a regular basis.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the coach say these students were protected through admission? The coach only gets a very small number of these and they still need to pass pre read but nothing like 25. Some of those players must have misunderstood that they were to given admission no matter what. Or the coach mislead them which is terrible.

Wesleyan has 28 teams, and each will have several spots. So, definitely more than 25.

Yes but if all the coaches are lying to players, they will be unable to recruit in the Future.

My experience at at another nescac was very different. The coach was very very clear about the difference between a recruit that would be supported and one not supported through admission. Only a supported recruit is guaranteed admission and even that is not one hundred percent until admissions has has final say. Admission had to see transcripts, test scores, rankings and all supplements had to be done even if they were termed "optional."

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Anonymous wrote:And if coaches lose their recruiting reputation they won't be able to recruit in any future years do why would they lie to players? Makes zero sense.

Agree. This sounds like the applicants misunderstood that they were getting one of the few recruiting slots. If they had to get in on their own and they were mislead, that is messed up but there is no reason a coach would do that.

The applicants can always publish the coaches’ texts. From my experience, that would be enough to get coaches fired and the school sanctioned by the NCAA if there were as sloppy as the ones recruiting DD. Maybe they will if they can’t land elsewhere.

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This year is very different for admissions. Many more applications, and many more students with inflated grades on transcripts.My guess is that these two factors played a role here.