Data Nerd Alert-- OSSE Enrollment Audit is up!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I smell trouble for:

Shining Stars, down from 291 to 246
Mundo P St, down from 596 to 570 (!)
Somehow CMI didn't decrease
DC Scholars, down from 607 to 538
Washington Global, down from 231 to 207
Bethune, down from 387 to 342
Hope Tolson, down from 373 to 282



My child is a student SSMA; she loves the school and has already mentioned that she doesn't want to go to a new school and have to make new friends. I have to take her feelings into consideration, but damn, these numbers are concerning!

What's the likelihood of the DCPCSB shutting them down after this year?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I smell trouble for:

Shining Stars, down from 291 to 246
Mundo P St, down from 596 to 570 (!)
Somehow CMI didn't decrease
DC Scholars, down from 607 to 538
Washington Global, down from 231 to 207
Bethune, down from 387 to 342
Hope Tolson, down from 373 to 282



My child is a student SSMA; she loves the school and has already mentioned that she doesn't want to go to a new school and have to make new friends. I have to take her feelings into consideration, but damn, these numbers are concerning!

What's the likelihood of the DCPCSB shutting them down after this year?


They just passed their 5-year review which was basically a rubber stamp, no concerns were publicly raised. So it's unlikely they would be shut down until their 15-year review in school year 25-26. BUT, if their performance on the upcoming PARCC test really tanks or they run into financial trouble, that can trigger an off-cycle review.

Rather than being concerned about an externally imposed shutdown, I would ask yourself whether performance is such that you actually do want to stay. And whether you have confidence that the school can adjust to a lower enrollment and continue to operate on a lower budget, in such a way that you want to stay there. Montessori schools are hard to run, they have to make commitments about having certain numbers of students in each grade to have the right mix, plus the commitment of providing Spanish classrooms. It's hard to do and the school is in a vulnerable situation. I wish you and your daughter all the best.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wanted to get opinions on a touchy demographic topic: there are some schools where despite the obvious negative reputations and neighborhood segregation, etc., the schools are listed as having some tiny amount of white students.

And I just want to say that in at least some of those cases, they must be bad data. I say this wishing there were white students at these schools, but they seem more likely to be bad data than actual white students.

Yes - tell me that Leckie is near the base and Beers is in fancy Hillcrest or whatever, but I just see those tiny numbers as likely to be errors.

And it makes me think that self-entry and self-designation, as valuable as that is, permits a certain amount of data that can only be misunderstood to enter the system.


I know some white families who are IB and have kids at Beers. They do exist.


I know several white families who live EOTR and send their kids to school EOTR. And I know people who work EOTR or have commutes that take them through EOTR so they send their kids to PK there. It's really not that far from Navy Yard or the Hill to Boone or Savoy and if you don't get into your IB PK it's not a bad option for a couple of years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I smell trouble for:

Shining Stars, down from 291 to 246
Mundo P St, down from 596 to 570 (!)
Somehow CMI didn't decrease
DC Scholars, down from 607 to 538
Washington Global, down from 231 to 207
Bethune, down from 387 to 342
Hope Tolson, down from 373 to 282



My child is a student SSMA; she loves the school and has already mentioned that she doesn't want to go to a new school and have to make new friends. I have to take her feelings into consideration, but damn, these numbers are concerning!

What's the likelihood of the DCPCSB shutting them down after this year?


They just passed their 5-year review which was basically a rubber stamp, no concerns were publicly raised. So it's unlikely they would be shut down until their 15-year review in school year 25-26. BUT, if their performance on the upcoming PARCC test really tanks or they run into financial trouble, that can trigger an off-cycle review.

Rather than being concerned about an externally imposed shutdown, I would ask yourself whether performance is such that you actually do want to stay. And whether you have confidence that the school can adjust to a lower enrollment and continue to operate on a lower budget, in such a way that you want to stay there. Montessori schools are hard to run, they have to make commitments about having certain numbers of students in each grade to have the right mix, plus the commitment of providing Spanish classrooms. It's hard to do and the school is in a vulnerable situation. I wish you and your daughter all the best.


It would be so embarrassing for a school to fail shortly after easily passing it's review. If the PCSB were willing to dig a little deeper and call out problems, perhaps SSMA would not be in this situation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I smell trouble for:

Shining Stars, down from 291 to 246
Mundo P St, down from 596 to 570 (!)
Somehow CMI didn't decrease
DC Scholars, down from 607 to 538
Washington Global, down from 231 to 207
Bethune, down from 387 to 342
Hope Tolson, down from 373 to 282



My child is a student SSMA; she loves the school and has already mentioned that she doesn't want to go to a new school and have to make new friends. I have to take her feelings into consideration, but damn, these numbers are concerning!

What's the likelihood of the DCPCSB shutting them down after this year?


They won’t be shut down but you may find your kid has to make new friends anyway after hers leave the school…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I smell trouble for:

Shining Stars, down from 291 to 246
Mundo P St, down from 596 to 570 (!)
Somehow CMI didn't decrease
DC Scholars, down from 607 to 538
Washington Global, down from 231 to 207
Bethune, down from 387 to 342
Hope Tolson, down from 373 to 282



My child is a student SSMA; she loves the school and has already mentioned that she doesn't want to go to a new school and have to make new friends. I have to take her feelings into consideration, but damn, these numbers are concerning!

What's the likelihood of the DCPCSB shutting them down after this year?


They won’t be shut down but you may find your kid has to make new friends anyway after hers leave the school…


This. It's no fun being the last kid on a sinking ship-- you end up making new friends when your friends leave, and then changing schools anyway.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t read too much into these numbers- last year was a very weird enrollment year.


I want to read into Woodson, Eastern and Wilson for having hundred together of unverified or non-residents at their schools.


I would be concerned at how underenrolled so many high schools are in DC and then you have Wilson which is bursting at the seams. DC needs to quit buildning new buildings if there isn't demand (Dunbar, Brookland middle etc)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of these numbers make sure on access and barriers, but the number of unaudited students is (!!!!). Wilson parents should be ballistic.
First number is total enrollment, second is ones with unverified residence.
I only included schools with more than 5 unaudited/verified residency.

H.D. Woodson High School 477 121
Carlos Rosario International PCS 1979 71
Woodrow Wilson High School 2047 61
Eastern High School 763 43
Langley Elementary School 305 22
Coolidge High School 740 15
Roosevelt High School 796 14
Academy of Hope Adult PCS 562 13
Langdon Elementary School 349 11
Payne Elementary School 291 11
School Without Walls @ F-S 516 10
Beers Elementary School 385 8
Shining Stars Montessori 246 8
Hardy Middle School 531 6
C.W. Harris Elementary School 230 5
CHEC 1556 5
Maury Elementary School 518 5



Over 61 students out of 2000+?


Wilson parents should care that the school is over capacity. I just doubled checked the numbers. Dunbar, shiny and new, has 650 students. Brookland Middle, also shiny and new as 350 (Deal middle is 20 % over capacity with 1500 students).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of these numbers make sure on access and barriers, but the number of unaudited students is (!!!!). Wilson parents should be ballistic.
First number is total enrollment, second is ones with unverified residence.
I only included schools with more than 5 unaudited/verified residency.

H.D. Woodson High School 477 121
Carlos Rosario International PCS 1979 71
Woodrow Wilson High School 2047 61
Eastern High School 763 43
Langley Elementary School 305 22
Coolidge High School 740 15
Roosevelt High School 796 14
Academy of Hope Adult PCS 562 13
Langdon Elementary School 349 11
Payne Elementary School 291 11
School Without Walls @ F-S 516 10
Beers Elementary School 385 8
Shining Stars Montessori 246 8
Hardy Middle School 531 6
C.W. Harris Elementary School 230 5
CHEC 1556 5
Maury Elementary School 518 5



Over 61 students out of 2000+?


Wilson parents should care that the school is over capacity. I just doubled checked the numbers. Dunbar, shiny and new, has 650 students. Brookland Middle, also shiny and new as 350 (Deal middle is 20 % over capacity with 1500 students).


Are you volunteering to be zoned out of Deal, then?

DCPS builds and plans for a much longer timeframe because its responsibility is to provide seats to all IB kids, far into the future. Before the pandemic Brookland was gaining enrollment, as are the elementaries in the area. Catching a few hundred residency cheaters doesn't really make a difference in the long-term projections. They could just move back into DC if they wanted to, after all.
Anonymous
Seems relevant here that audited Deal enrollment actually fell, from 1463 last year to 1396 this year. And the 6th grade is the smallest class.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Seems relevant here that audited Deal enrollment actually fell, from 1463 last year to 1396 this year. And the 6th grade is the smallest class.


Yep they’re going to lose teachers if this keeps up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of these numbers make sure on access and barriers, but the number of unaudited students is (!!!!). Wilson parents should be ballistic.
First number is total enrollment, second is ones with unverified residence.
I only included schools with more than 5 unaudited/verified residency.

H.D. Woodson High School 477 121
Carlos Rosario International PCS 1979 71
Woodrow Wilson High School 2047 61
Eastern High School 763 43
Langley Elementary School 305 22
Coolidge High School 740 15
Roosevelt High School 796 14
Academy of Hope Adult PCS 562 13
Langdon Elementary School 349 11
Payne Elementary School 291 11
School Without Walls @ F-S 516 10
Beers Elementary School 385 8
Shining Stars Montessori 246 8
Hardy Middle School 531 6
C.W. Harris Elementary School 230 5
CHEC 1556 5
Maury Elementary School 518 5



Over 61 students out of 2000+?


Wilson parents should care that the school is over capacity. I just doubled checked the numbers. Dunbar, shiny and new, has 650 students. Brookland Middle, also shiny and new as 350 (Deal middle is 20 % over capacity with 1500 students).


Are you volunteering to be zoned out of Deal, then?

DCPS builds and plans for a much longer timeframe because its responsibility is to provide seats to all IB kids, far into the future. Before the pandemic Brookland was gaining enrollment, as are the elementaries in the area. Catching a few hundred residency cheaters doesn't really make a difference in the long-term projections. They could just move back into DC if they wanted to, after all.


Im not in Deal thanks. I am in MacFarland and until DC gets serious about creating test in acadmic acadamies in underenrolled schools to draw more kids in, then so many of these schools will struggle. While Wilson has 30% out of bounds... DCPS needs to take a hardline and just redraw boundaries. or stop feeder rights for OOB kids at West of the Park schools.
Anonymous
Brookland has been open five years and all the parents who were invollved in the planning were lied to as far as acadmic rigor to be offered. That school isn't even close to 50%.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I smell trouble for:

Shining Stars, down from 291 to 246
Mundo P St, down from 596 to 570 (!)
Somehow CMI didn't decrease
DC Scholars, down from 607 to 538
Washington Global, down from 231 to 207
Bethune, down from 387 to 342
Hope Tolson, down from 373 to 282


Wow. It was covid a lot of families left DC, stayed at home school or private and a few went back to DCPS.

I mean there are probably too many schools in DC particularly in some wards. But I don't think anything can be assumed after the last couple years. It will take another year or more to see how it all shakes out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Brookland has been open five years and all the parents who were invollved in the planning were lied to as far as acadmic rigor to be offered. That school isn't even close to 50%.


It's unclear to me why SH and Jefferson have "honors classes" and Brookland doesn't. But if you mean it's not at 50% capacity, actually at 327 students this year and a Master Facilities Plan capacity of 534, it's 61.2% capacity.
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