What happens with the Big3 kids who have sub 3.0 GPAs?

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid had mostly Cs, I would wonder if they were in the right school.

Good point. There are just a lot of Cs given out. I'm not sure if many kids have mostly Cs but I do know a lot of kids with one or more Cs.

One C would not result in a sub 3.0 GPA. For someone to have below a 3.0 GPA, they need to have gotten mostly Cs. That's a sign that the school is not teaching in a way that is effective for that student.

Not really. All Bs = 3.0. So, all Bs + 1 C < 3.0. You can even have a GPA < 3.0 if you have all Bs, 1 A and 2 Cs.

This is going to be my kid. Not a “big 3” or big anything, but a good independent school. He gets the occasional A, mostly Bs, and some Cs. I’ll be thrilled if he ends up with a GPA over 3. I don’t think public school would have been better for him - he probably would have done less work and learned less, and been satisfied with Bs there too. He’s just not academically motivated. So better he is pushed and challenged. Hopefully he’ll find a good fit college.

This is my kid

In at: Indiana; Auburn; Elon; College of Charleston; UNC Charlotte; U of Arizona; Boulder; U of Iowa; Rollins; U of S Carolina 3.2 good private 30 ACT

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And the notion that top kids from publics are not prepared for college is ridiculous and unsubstantiated. But again. One must justify the value.

Average kids form both publics and privates will go to the same colleges…sorry to break it to you.

But how many kids fail out because their high schools don't prepare them for the reality of higher education? HS should not just be learning content. In college and beyond, there are deadlines and higher expectations. I cannot imagine what it would be like to spend tens of thousands of dollars (or more) to send your kid to college when they've never really had a deadline or late penalties or only one chance to take tests/quizzes.

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Anonymous wrote:There's more to life than letter grades. My kid has learned a lot more about how to be a good student in private school than he ever did in public school. Showing up, handing in decent (not outstanding) work, and behaving himself should not earn him As but that's all it took in public school. My DS has a 3.2ish UW GPA in private school and he will be very well prepared for college wherever he goes.

Sounds like you are trying to justify money spent. That is not my experience in publics with my child. Going to T25 next year…

It varies drastically by public. My kid also came out of public and never had to lift a finger for high As (as in 99% in most classes) in public middle school. he is working really hard at a Big3 private high school. His friends who continued on to our public for high school are doing nothing. i was talking to one today and she was laughing about how she has yet to read anything for English class (as in not a page) and yet got an A for the fall semester. This is definitely not the norm in all publics but it's very much a reality in some.

Then he will likely go to the same college as the kid with similar stats in public. If he was great at private then he will get into the same schools as those great from publics . Sounds like I hear a bit of justification in your voice…

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If my kid had mostly Cs, I would wonder if they were in the right school.

Good point. There are just a lot of Cs given out. I'm not sure if many kids have mostly Cs but I do know a lot of kids with one or more Cs.

One C would not result in a sub 3.0 GPA. For someone to have below a 3.0 GPA, they need to have gotten mostly Cs. That's a sign that the school is not teaching in a way that is effective for that student.

Not really. All Bs = 3.0. So, all Bs + 1 C < 3.0. You can even have a GPA < 3.0 if you have all Bs, 1 A and 2 Cs.

This is going to be my kid. Not a “big 3” or big anything, but a good independent school. He gets the occasional A, mostly Bs, and some Cs. I’ll be thrilled if he ends up with a GPA over 3. I don’t think public school would have been better for him - he probably would have done less work and learned less, and been satisfied with Bs there too. He’s just not academically motivated. So better he is pushed and challenged. Hopefully he’ll find a good fit college.

This is my kid

In at: Indiana; Auburn; Elon; College of Charleston; UNC Charlotte; U of Arizona; Boulder; U of Iowa; Rollins; U of S Carolina 3.2 good private 30 ACT

Same as public school kid with same stats

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If my kid had mostly Cs, I would wonder if they were in the right school.

Good point. There are just a lot of Cs given out. I'm not sure if many kids have mostly Cs but I do know a lot of kids with one or more Cs.

One C would not result in a sub 3.0 GPA. For someone to have below a 3.0 GPA, they need to have gotten mostly Cs. That's a sign that the school is not teaching in a way that is effective for that student.

Not really. All Bs = 3.0. So, all Bs + 1 C < 3.0. You can even have a GPA < 3.0 if you have all Bs, 1 A and 2 Cs.

This is going to be my kid. Not a “big 3” or big anything, but a good independent school. He gets the occasional A, mostly Bs, and some Cs. I’ll be thrilled if he ends up with a GPA over 3. I don’t think public school would have been better for him - he probably would have done less work and learned less, and been satisfied with Bs there too. He’s just not academically motivated. So better he is pushed and challenged. Hopefully he’ll find a good fit college.

This is my kid

In at: Indiana; Auburn; Elon; College of Charleston; UNC Charlotte; U of Arizona; Boulder; U of Iowa; Rollins; U of S Carolina 3.2 good private 30 ACT

PP here he got mostly Bs and B+, occasional A- and a couple of Cs (math) /

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the notion that top kids from publics are not prepared for college is ridiculous and unsubstantiated. But again. One must justify the value.

Average kids form both publics and privates will go to the same colleges…sorry to break it to you.

But how many kids fail out because their high schools don't prepare them for the reality of higher education? HS should not just be learning content. In college and beyond, there are deadlines and higher expectations. I cannot imagine what it would be like to spend tens of thousands of dollars (or more) to send your kid to college when they've never really had a deadline or late penalties or only one chance to take tests/quizzes.

Or spend 10s of thousands on privates to learn their kid is just as successful as their public counterpart…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the notion that top kids from publics are not prepared for college is ridiculous and unsubstantiated. But again. One must justify the value.

Average kids form both publics and privates will go to the same colleges…sorry to break it to you.

But how many kids fail out because their high schools don't prepare them for the reality of higher education? HS should not just be learning content. In college and beyond, there are deadlines and higher expectations. I cannot imagine what it would be like to spend tens of thousands of dollars (or more) to send your kid to college when they've never really had a deadline or late penalties or only one chance to take tests/quizzes.

You are foolish to think that those who fail out of college are at a higher percentage from publics…craziness. But, it helps you feel better about your choices, I get it..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the notion that top kids from publics are not prepared for college is ridiculous and unsubstantiated. But again. One must justify the value.

Average kids form both publics and privates will go to the same colleges…sorry to break it to you.

But how many kids fail out because their high schools don't prepare them for the reality of higher education? HS should not just be learning content. In college and beyond, there are deadlines and higher expectations. I cannot imagine what it would be like to spend tens of thousands of dollars (or more) to send your kid to college when they've never really had a deadline or late penalties or only one chance to take tests/quizzes.

Or spend 10s of thousands on privates to learn their kid is just as successful as their public counterpart…

At least they will have a college degree at the end of the day. I feel bad for the students who get to college and are lost because they aren't ready for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the notion that top kids from publics are not prepared for college is ridiculous and unsubstantiated. But again. One must justify the value.

Average kids form both publics and privates will go to the same colleges…sorry to break it to you.

But how many kids fail out because their high schools don't prepare them for the reality of higher education? HS should not just be learning content. In college and beyond, there are deadlines and higher expectations. I cannot imagine what it would be like to spend tens of thousands of dollars (or more) to send your kid to college when they've never really had a deadline or late penalties or only one chance to take tests/quizzes.

Or spend 10s of thousands on privates to learn their kid is just as successful as their public counterpart…

At least they will have a college degree at the end of the day. I feel bad for the students who get to college and are lost because they aren't ready for it.

Yes, both privates and public students of equal intelligence will. But, one paid for it. One dealt with the adversity and earned it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the notion that top kids from publics are not prepared for college is ridiculous and unsubstantiated. But again. One must justify the value.

Average kids form both publics and privates will go to the same colleges…sorry to break it to you.

But how many kids fail out because their high schools don't prepare them for the reality of higher education? HS should not just be learning content. In college and beyond, there are deadlines and higher expectations. I cannot imagine what it would be like to spend tens of thousands of dollars (or more) to send your kid to college when they've never really had a deadline or late penalties or only one chance to take tests/quizzes.

Or spend 10s of thousands on privates to learn their kid is just as successful as their public counterpart…

At least they will have a college degree at the end of the day. I feel bad for the students who get to college and are lost because they aren't ready for it.

Yes, both privates and public students of equal intelligence will. But, one paid for it. One dealt with the adversity and earned it

Interesting read…sorry to burst any bubbles…

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/10/are-private-schools-worth-it/280693/

[Anonymous]

My favorite:

“ Religion aside, why are parents spending so much money to send their kids to private schools?

CAL: That’s a great question, and some economists that have looked at these types of conclusions are really confused by that. Why would somebody pay money for a service that is apparently inferior to one they could get for free? It flies in the face of economic logic.”

This!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My favorite:

“ Religion aside, why are parents spending so much money to send their kids to private schools?

CAL: That’s a great question, and some economists that have looked at these types of conclusions are really confused by that. Why would somebody pay money for a service that is apparently inferior to one they could get for free? It flies in the face of economic logic.”

This!

“ People just assume that private is better. It appears that might not be true, but nonetheless that’s the assumption that people advance with.” And with the publics in the DMV highly recognized and respected by universities, this is even more telling…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the notion that top kids from publics are not prepared for college is ridiculous and unsubstantiated. But again. One must justify the value.

Average kids form both publics and privates will go to the same colleges…sorry to break it to you.

But how many kids fail out because their high schools don't prepare them for the reality of higher education? HS should not just be learning content. In college and beyond, there are deadlines and higher expectations. I cannot imagine what it would be like to spend tens of thousands of dollars (or more) to send your kid to college when they've never really had a deadline or late penalties or only one chance to take tests/quizzes.

Or spend 10s of thousands on privates to learn their kid is just as successful as their public counterpart…

At least they will have a college degree at the end of the day. I feel bad for the students who get to college and are lost because they aren't ready for it.

You don’t actually feel bad but nice try.

[Anonymous]

Why has this discussion become focused on private vs. public? Is it really so hard to talk about the bottom 20% that you have to resort to criticizing kids at other schools?

[Anonymous]

2.9. 26 act. Conn college with merit college Charleston with merit, tulane, Bama, Emory (Oxford), auburn, providence, Richmond - obviously helped to be male