Height

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a mid 40's guy, new to dating after a LT relationship that ended. I'm of average height (5'9") and notice that most women in dating apps mention to not bother reaching out if you're not 6' or taller. FWIW, I understand that if a woman is 5'10" or taller, that she might like a taller partner. But these women looking for guys who are 6' or taller are all 5'0" to 5'8". I don't have a problem with a woman who is taller than me. But wow...have times changed.

Women are attracted to men who have the potential to increase their social value with other women. So it's a self-fulfilling social construct: taller men are attractive because women value taller men, not because they are necessarily objectively more attractive. Women obsess over what other women think of them, and how they will be judged (as they themselves are ruthlessly judging others behind their backs), and so their search for a mate isn't driven by any sense of objective attraction, but the fear of being devalued by their peers (i.e. other women), and the FOMO that results from obsessing over others' mates. Women may very well find a shorter man attractive, but they will hold out for taller man because the shorter man will decrease her social value among her female peers, and subject her to ridicule behind her back.

What the? That is bonkers and as a woman, I cannot believe this what so ever. This must be a man writing. Women don’t care if another woman’s husband is 5’8” or 6’2” and has nothing to do with that woman’s “value” or place with her peers.

You could use this argument with income, but height, no.

Yes, it applies to money as well. And it isn’t surprising, as a woman, that you would react this way, as you’ve been groomed by society to internalize these tendencies, and to reject them when confronted. It is a particularly insidious manifestation of cognitive dissonance: judging and rejecting other women for their choices while at the same time being outraged at such behavior, or denying it exists at all.

[Anonymous]

OP, what do you meant times have changed? I am a little older than you and as far back as I remember women prefer taller guys. I was in a serious relationship in my 20s with a short guy about 5’6” and my mom objected to his height. Never mind my dad is only 5’7”. I guess my brothers gave her crap for not being tall and she objected to my dating a short guy.
Signed,
5’4” wife w/ 6’3” spouse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Manlets need not apply.

Understood. Also, fat chicks need not apply.

It's really the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a mid 40's guy, new to dating after a LT relationship that ended. I'm of average height (5'9") and notice that most women in dating apps mention to not bother reaching out if you're not 6' or taller. FWIW, I understand that if a woman is 5'10" or taller, that she might like a taller partner. But these women looking for guys who are 6' or taller are all 5'0" to 5'8". I don't have a problem with a woman who is taller than me. But wow...have times changed.

Women are attracted to men who have the potential to increase their social value with other women. So it's a self-fulfilling social construct: taller men are attractive because women value taller men, not because they are necessarily objectively more attractive. Women obsess over what other women think of them, and how they will be judged (as they themselves are ruthlessly judging others behind their backs), and so their search for a mate isn't driven by any sense of objective attraction, but the fear of being devalued by their peers (i.e. other women), and the FOMO that results from obsessing over others' mates. Women may very well find a shorter man attractive, but they will hold out for taller man because the shorter man will decrease her social value among her female peers, and subject her to ridicule behind her back.

What the? That is bonkers and as a woman, I cannot believe this what so ever. This must be a man writing. Women don’t care if another woman’s husband is 5’8” or 6’2” and has nothing to do with that woman’s “value” or place with her peers.

You could use this argument with income, but height, no.

Yes, it applies to money as well. And it isn’t surprising, as a woman, that you would react this way, as you’ve been groomed by society to internalize these tendencies, and to reject them when confronted. It is a particularly insidious manifestation of cognitive dissonance: judging and rejecting other women for their choices while at the same time being outraged at such behavior, or denying it exists at all.

Ok Incel, sure women judging other women exists. But not for normal height variations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women are delusional about what average height is, just as they think tons of single men looking to marry are making over 300k

X10000000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a mid 40's guy, new to dating after a LT relationship that ended. I'm of average height (5'9") and notice that most women in dating apps mention to not bother reaching out if you're not 6' or taller. FWIW, I understand that if a woman is 5'10" or taller, that she might like a taller partner. But these women looking for guys who are 6' or taller are all 5'0" to 5'8". I don't have a problem with a woman who is taller than me. But wow...have times changed.

Women are attracted to men who have the potential to increase their social value with other women. So it's a self-fulfilling social construct: taller men are attractive because women value taller men, not because they are necessarily objectively more attractive. Women obsess over what other women think of them, and how they will be judged (as they themselves are ruthlessly judging others behind their backs), and so their search for a mate isn't driven by any sense of objective attraction, but the fear of being devalued by their peers (i.e. other women), and the FOMO that results from obsessing over others' mates. Women may very well find a shorter man attractive, but they will hold out for taller man because the shorter man will decrease her social value among her female peers, and subject her to ridicule behind her back.

What the? That is bonkers and as a woman, I cannot believe this what so ever. This must be a man writing. Women don’t care if another woman’s husband is 5’8” or 6’2” and has nothing to do with that woman’s “value” or place with her peers.

You could use this argument with income, but height, no.

Yes, it applies to money as well. And it isn’t surprising, as a woman, that you would react this way, as you’ve been groomed by society to internalize these tendencies, and to reject them when confronted. It is a particularly insidious manifestation of cognitive dissonance: judging and rejecting other women for their choices while at the same time being outraged at such behavior, or denying it exists at all.

Ok Incel, sure women judging other women exists. But not for normal height variations

Women judge other women for literally everything.

[Anonymous]

I'm 6'5" and make $170k. Neither has helped me get the women I want most, but I can always find someone who isn't morbidly obese.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, you have no physical preferences listed at all right OP?

OP here. Actually, I don’t. I don’t have a list of what I think is physically attractive to me. I’m attracted to all types of people. I am not going to restrict my potential pool of folks by reducing it. After all, physical looks can change (one can gain weight, one can drop weight etc), personality though, that sticks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women are delusional about what average height is, just as they think tons of single men looking to marry are making over 300k

And all of these women are 40 pounds overweight (or more) and think they're a dime piece.

[Anonymous]

I was one of those. Without context, would have preferred a 6’ + but met and fell in love with a man who is 5’9.

Their loss for cutting themselves off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, you have no physical preferences listed at all right OP?

OP here. Actually, I don’t. I don’t have a list of what I think is physically attractive to me. I’m attracted to all types of people. I am not going to restrict my potential pool of folks by reducing it. After all, physical looks can change (one can gain weight, one can drop weight etc), personality though, that sticks.

Height very rarely changes, especially upward. Women are allowed to have physical preferences in the same way you (or was it a DP?) walked out on a date for being heavier than her photos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Women are delusional about what average height is, just as they think tons of single men looking to marry are making over 300k

And all of these women are 40 pounds overweight (or more) and think they're a dime piece.

If I were 40 pounds overweight, I still wouldn't date a short guy. I may not be a dime piece, but I know what works for me. You know what happens when women settle? Go check out the unhappy women thread.

Luckily I am married to a tall guy. If I were ever single. I'd stay so before I change my preferences. I have been single most of my life so I am not afraid of being single.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women are delusional about what average height is, just as they think tons of single men looking to marry are making over 300k

And all of these women are 40 pounds overweight (or more) and think they're a dime piece.

If I were 40 pounds overweight, I still wouldn't date a short guy. I may not be a dime piece, but I know what works for me. You know what happens when women settle? Go check out the unhappy women thread.

Luckily I am married to a tall guy. If I were ever single. I'd stay so before I change my preferences. I have been single most of my life so I am not afraid of being single.

This is the crux of the matter. Women are (biologically) pickier and content with being single or wait for the right man. Research backs up my hypothesis "the science backs it up: unmarried and childless women are the happiest subgroup in the population. And they are more likely to live longer than their married and child-rearing peers, according to a leading expert in happiness."
Men have stronger biological needs and are more sexually motivated to find partners. It is also harder for them to find sexual partners - everyone knows that saying "D* is plentiful and cheap". But again, those potential women are waiting for the right one and are just fine with the status quo, so the rejected men become more and more frustrated for being denied what they consider their "right" to sex and a relationship. Biologically, it makes sense, as coupled men live longer and healthier lives; so they need that woman to take care of them for longevity and to fulfill their sexual needs.
However, that woman DNGAF about their needs and is happy as a clam with her vibrator, high paying job, tons of girlfriends / strong social group, and a paid handyman who can take care of duties formerly assigned to the man of the house. So the men like the 22:49 PP became even more frustrated, which in turn makes them even more unattractive for the already very picky women.
I believe this is the reason why we have so many incels today. In the old age, all women, including widows, were quickly married off and men were guaranteed a partner, especially as the mortality rate for males was pretty high prior to the adolescence. Today, this is no longer the case. Men are still being born at higher rates than women, they almost all survive childhood, and a lot of them can't find a woman. There's serious research out about the relationship crisis of the men who are not wealthy, tall, or have a successful careers in today's society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm 6'5" and make $170k. Neither has helped me get the women I want most, but I can always find someone who isn't morbidly obese.

What kind of women do you want and why don’t they want you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women are delusional about what average height is, just as they think tons of single men looking to marry are making over 300k

And all of these women are 40 pounds overweight (or more) and think they're a dime piece.

If I were 40 pounds overweight, I still wouldn't date a short guy. I may not be a dime piece, but I know what works for me. You know what happens when women settle? Go check out the unhappy women thread.

Luckily I am married to a tall guy. If I were ever single. I'd stay so before I change my preferences. I have been single most of my life so I am not afraid of being single.

Hahaha, that's every frickin thread here.