Now tests optional, will grades optional next? Might as well!

Anonymous
Tests shouid absolutely be eliminated in law school. They are useless and have nothing to do with actual lawyering.
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Anonymous wrote:Interviews with trick questions.


Group interviews organized around team problem solving.


And, they should take notes about the student’s attire, manners, and overall social IQ. Extra points for witty - but not snide - remarks. The best schools should go for the socially savvy.
Anonymous
Schools like MIT could ask kids to solve absurdly difficult math problems.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don’t worry. Schools have a self-interest in finding and/or maintaining ways that accurately identify the best students for their school. If they didn’t, their alumni base and academic prestige would erode.


Looks like previous posters are getting creative!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think they should go with the IQ test type that measure fundamental intelligence kind of like admission to AAP



People prep for that, too! And psychologists sell the tests to desperate parents. There is no end to what some folks will do to get their precious offspring into the “right” college.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do you wonder how college app will be like for your grandchildren?


This isn’t even worthy of discourse.

https://news.uchicago.edu/story/test-scores-dont-stack-gpas-predicting-college-success
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Anonymous wrote:Do you wonder how college app will be like for your grandchildren?


What’s the point of standardized testing when you can spend money on prep courses and increase your scores? There is no correlation between test scores and doing well at college. The only correlation with test scores is how much money your parent have.


What's the point of GPA when you spend money and hire tutors and increase your grade. Is there a correlation between GPA and doing well at college?



GPA is the culmination of fours years of work. Arguably, more relevant than a 4 hour test. The problem is that grade inflation has limited the usefulness of GPA.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you wonder how college app will be like for your grandchildren?


What’s the point of standardized testing when you can spend money on prep courses and increase your scores? There is no correlation between test scores and doing well at college. The only correlation with test scores is how much money your parent have.


What's the point of GPA when you spend money and hire tutors and increase your grade. Is there a correlation between GPA and doing well at college?



GPA is the culmination of fours years of work. Arguably, more relevant than a 4 hour test. The problem is that grade inflation has limited the usefulness of GPA.



NO the math and english ability tested is the culmination of 12-13 years of work.


Anonymous
This discussion is moot. As admissions become more and more loosey-goosey based on entirely "holistic factors", more and more employers will conduct their own tests for jobs requiring a minimum of academic competence, as is already done in a lot of technical interviews.
Anonymous
Why don’t universities make sports optional and not give any weight to athletics. I wish such a day will come one day and universities will focus on education.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you wonder how college app will be like for your grandchildren?


What’s the point of standardized testing when you can spend money on prep courses and increase your scores? There is no correlation between test scores and doing well at college. The only correlation with test scores is how much money your parent have.


$0 (5 practice tests)=1520


Spent $750 for online prep thingy during Winter = 1530



Do you know how out-of-reach $750 is for most students? What bubble do you live in?


Kahn Academy is free.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you wonder how college app will be like for your grandchildren?


What’s the point of standardized testing when you can spend money on prep courses and increase your scores? There is no correlation between test scores and doing well at college. The only correlation with test scores is how much money your parent have.


What's the point of GPA when you spend money and hire tutors and increase your grade. Is there a correlation between GPA and doing well at college?



GPA is the culmination of fours years of work. Arguably, more relevant than a 4 hour test. The problem is that grade inflation has limited the usefulness of GPA.



But there is so much grade inflation...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think they should go with the IQ test type that measure fundamental intelligence kind of like admission to AAP



FCPS AAP admission was a joke with my two. Child 1, offered a slot and was essentially asked to leave the program after one semester due to poor performance. Child 2 NOT offered a spot. HS GPA of 4.4, 1500+ SAT and NMSF.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t universities make sports optional and not give any weight to athletics. I wish such a day will come one day and universities will focus on education.


The “well rounded” bit means nothing to you, huh? Let me guess, you view college as technical trade school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they should go with the IQ test type that measure fundamental intelligence kind of like admission to AAP



FCPS AAP admission was a joke with my two. Child 1, offered a slot and was essentially asked to leave the program after one semester due to poor performance. Child 2 NOT offered a spot. HS GPA of 4.4, 1500+ SAT and NMSF.


+1
It's been interesting (to say the least) to see where kids who were never in AAP are now going to college. Cornell, UVA, UCLA, UChicago, Yale, Princeton, and more.
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