Is your child’s learning gaps being filled in?

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Anonymous wrote:Get a tutor or Saturday school.

Nope, the school has an obligation to address these gaps.

You should’ve learned that public education in this country is a joke. We all saw that last year with online learning. Get your kid a tutor.

Public education here is excellent, but there are many hyper-privileged types that expect the county to raise their kids for them.

LMAO. Excellent? Not by a long shot. Especially not in MoCo. We do have some excellent teachers. But the school system as a whole is pretty subpar.

All the evidence suggests otherwise. When I was in MCPS 30 years ago the average SAT score was maybe 1000. Today it's more like 1400. It's pretty clear this dramatic increase in these standardized test scores is because the high-quality of education is just getting better and better with each year.

You do know these high test scores are from tutoring, right? That and they have recalibrated the scores over the years. Even my meager 1010 would be higher now after they recalibrated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a tutor or Saturday school.

Nope, the school has an obligation to address these gaps.

You should’ve learned that public education in this country is a joke. We all saw that last year with online learning. Get your kid a tutor.

Public education here is excellent, but there are many hyper-privileged types that expect the county to raise their kids for them.

LMAO. Excellent? Not by a long shot. Especially not in MoCo. We do have some excellent teachers. But the school system as a whole is pretty subpar.

That's strange. I feel my kids are getting a much better education than I did at a W 30 years ago before attending an ivy.

You either have a bad memory or aren't very familiar with what's going on in the classroom now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS has been "assessing" whether my DC qualifies for compensatory services to make up for the lapse in services over the last 2 years. DC clearly did not have the IEP implemented correctly for the last 2 years. Yet its been another entire semester of this "assessing" and nothing has happened. We are paying for one-on-one tutors to bridge the gap but honestly, we can't afford it, and we can't keep it up forever.

This is why many people homeschool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a tutor or Saturday school.

Nope, the school has an obligation to address these gaps.

You should’ve learned that public education in this country is a joke. We all saw that last year with online learning. Get your kid a tutor.

Public education here is excellent, but there are many hyper-privileged types that expect the county to raise their kids for them.

LMAO. Excellent? Not by a long shot. Especially not in MoCo. We do have some excellent teachers. But the school system as a whole is pretty subpar.

All the evidence suggests otherwise. When I was in MCPS 30 years ago the average SAT score was maybe 1000. Today it's more like 1400. It's pretty clear this dramatic increase in these standardized test scores is because the high-quality of education is just getting better and better with each year.

Maybe you should read up about how the SAT was recalibrated. And the average SAT score is definitely not 1400. The average score is actually going down, when adjusted for SAT inflation.

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In this wealthy country, with high housing costs, no universal healthcare or childcare (the cost of daycare, preschool, and before- and after-school care is astronomical) ...

this often means both parents work. and with single parent households, and nuclear families with smaller support networks ...

we shouldn't be surprised kids don't get the parental attention they need. So yes it is difficult for overstretched parents to help their kids with homework or deal with behavioral issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You do need a private tutor. The schools are not addressing these gaps in any practical ways. They talk about them and then that stops and nothing happens. It's a disaster for many.

This is insane. I was wondering last year how they were going to remediate deficits. It never occurred to me that they would just blow off the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a tutor or Saturday school.

Nope, the school has an obligation to address these gaps.

You should’ve learned that public education in this country is a joke. We all saw that last year with online learning. Get your kid a tutor.

Public education here is excellent, but there are many hyper-privileged types that expect the county to raise their kids for them.

LMAO. Excellent? Not by a long shot. Especially not in MoCo. We do have some excellent teachers. But the school system as a whole is pretty subpar.

All the evidence suggests otherwise. When I was in MCPS 30 years ago the average SAT score was maybe 1000. Today it's more like 1400. It's pretty clear this dramatic increase in these standardized test scores is because the high-quality of education is just getting better and better with each year.

Stop contradicting our narrative about failing schools with facts!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a tutor or Saturday school.

Nope, the school has an obligation to address these gaps.

You should’ve learned that public education in this country is a joke. We all saw that last year with online learning. Get your kid a tutor.

Public education here is excellent, but there are many hyper-privileged types that expect the county to raise their kids for them.

LMAO. Excellent? Not by a long shot. Especially not in MoCo. We do have some excellent teachers. But the school system as a whole is pretty subpar.

All the evidence suggests otherwise. When I was in MCPS 30 years ago the average SAT score was maybe 1000. Today it's more like 1400. It's pretty clear this dramatic increase in these standardized test scores is because the high-quality of education is just getting better and better with each year.

Stop contradicting our narrative about failing schools with facts!!

These tests have been revised several times since then. Its not the same test and the same scale for the past 30 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You do need a private tutor. The schools are not addressing these gaps in any practical ways. They talk about them and then that stops and nothing happens. It's a disaster for many.

This is insane. I was wondering last year how they were going to remediate deficits. It never occurred to me that they would just blow off the problem.

+1 It all was a lie to placate parents of students with disabilities so they would not rush out to file state complaints, OCR complaints, due process, and civil suits. MCPS promised compensatory services then ignored their promise.

MCPS took and wasted COVID relief dollars that could hired more support such as special educators, para educators, school psychologists, speech therapists, occupational therapists, and school counselors. Dr. McKnight prioritized giving administrators 7 days of extra leave versus having staff work to fill the staffing shortages.

Ethics means nothing in MCPS and unfortunately, students with disabilities are not given the services and support that they need.

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Anonymous wrote:My first grader gets targeted intervention in school, every first and second grader us getting either targeted enrichment or interventions. Her reading is a bit behind (I think she's a level 6?) But her math and writing are very strong. One of her Christmas presents to her teacher was writing a letter to her teacher explaining why she liked her so much.

My first grader is maybe reading at 10 which is likely much lower than they'd be if there hadn't been DL. I'm no reading teacher, but I also tried to work them for 30 minutes a day throughout the pandemic and over the summer.

That's called parenting which is something you should be doing with your child all of the time. Who are the students who are behind? Mostly ones with checked-out parents.

That's my take as well. All the parents complaining about gaps are the same ones who did nothing but complain during DL and never did anything for their kids.

You are so out of line. I have an upper elem student with learning disabilities. I was working remotely so I greatly reduced my work hours and worked early am and late at night so I could be very involved in my DC’s virtual learning experience. Guess what, kids don’t always work as well with their parents as they do with teachers and therapists. And as I posted upthread we are paying for tutors. I did everything I could short of quitting my job to homeschool which would have been financially impossible. Stop with this rude and unfair “sorry you were forced to parent your kids” nonsense. MCPS apologist or just a total jerk?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My first grader gets targeted intervention in school, every first and second grader us getting either targeted enrichment or interventions. Her reading is a bit behind (I think she's a level 6?) But her math and writing are very strong. One of her Christmas presents to her teacher was writing a letter to her teacher explaining why she liked her so much.

My first grader is maybe reading at 10 which is likely much lower than they'd be if there hadn't been DL. I'm no reading teacher, but I also tried to work them for 30 minutes a day throughout the pandemic and over the summer.

That's called parenting which is something you should be doing with your child all of the time. Who are the students who are behind? Mostly ones with checked-out parents.

That's my take as well. All the parents complaining about gaps are the same ones who did nothing but complain during DL and never did anything for their kids.

How can you say this? My kids don’t have gaps in learning because the one who stayed in school is just crazy advanced and I pulled the other out to homeschool, but I am not going to assume that the parents of kids who are stating that there are gaps are just all bad parents.

And yay for second graders who are reading thanks to their parents. But what about kids in upper grade levels? Are their parents supposed to tutor them in Shakespeare, biology, algebra 2, writing poetry explications, Spanish, and economics?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My first grader gets targeted intervention in school, every first and second grader us getting either targeted enrichment or interventions. Her reading is a bit behind (I think she's a level 6?) But her math and writing are very strong. One of her Christmas presents to her teacher was writing a letter to her teacher explaining why she liked her so much.

My first grader is maybe reading at 10 which is likely much lower than they'd be if there hadn't been DL. I'm no reading teacher, but I also tried to work them for 30 minutes a day throughout the pandemic and over the summer.

That's called parenting which is something you should be doing with your child all of the time. Who are the students who are behind? Mostly ones with checked-out parents.

That's my take as well. All the parents complaining about gaps are the same ones who did nothing but complain during DL and never did anything for their kids.

You are so out of line. I have an upper elem student with learning disabilities. I was working remotely so I greatly reduced my work hours and worked early am and late at night so I could be very involved in my DC’s virtual learning experience. Guess what, kids don’t always work as well with their parents as they do with teachers and therapists. And as I posted upthread we are paying for tutors. I did everything I could short of quitting my job to homeschool which would have been financially impossible. Stop with this rude and unfair “sorry you were forced to parent your kids” nonsense. MCPS apologist or just a total jerk?

+1 I work in healthcare so I didn’t have the luxury of working from home. I did my best to hire specialists to keep up the speech and occupational services my child needed. There was no substitute though for the lack of social interaction with other kids.

And if you want to go to - I should have quit my job to teach my child - trust me I considered. I had coworkers who did quit. The teacher shortage is nothing like the healthcare burn out and shortage caused by COVID. Remember that as hospitals are once again filling up.

MCPS needs to do better to address the learning loss of any student that regressed. They have data presented at BOE meetings that highlighted that students with disabilities were a particularly vulnerable population yet they are still being ignored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a tutor or Saturday school.

Nope, the school has an obligation to address these gaps.

You should’ve learned that public education in this country is a joke. We all saw that last year with online learning. Get your kid a tutor.

Public education here is excellent, but there are many hyper-privileged types that expect the county to raise their kids for them.

LMAO. Excellent? Not by a long shot. Especially not in MoCo. We do have some excellent teachers. But the school system as a whole is pretty subpar.

That's strange. I feel my kids are getting a much better education than I did at a W 30 years ago before attending an ivy.

You either have a bad memory or aren't very familiar with what's going on in the classroom now.

NP here, I disagree with you. I don’t feel my children have received a sub par education. You may be able to find a district with similar stats (ESOL, FARMS, etc) that has done better but MCPS overall prepares students quite well. What experiences and data do you have to support such statements?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a tutor or Saturday school.

Nope, the school has an obligation to address these gaps.

You should’ve learned that public education in this country is a joke. We all saw that last year with online learning. Get your kid a tutor.

Public education here is excellent, but there are many hyper-privileged types that expect the county to raise their kids for them.

LMAO. Excellent? Not by a long shot. Especially not in MoCo. We do have some excellent teachers. But the school system as a whole is pretty subpar.

All the evidence suggests otherwise. When I was in MCPS 30 years ago the average SAT score was maybe 1000. Today it's more like 1400. It's pretty clear this dramatic increase in these standardized test scores is because the high-quality of education is just getting better and better with each year.

Stop contradicting our narrative about failing schools with facts!!

These tests have been revised several times since then. Its not the same test and the same scale for the past 30 years.

Nice try but that doesn't cut it since it accounts only for a small portion of the vast gains made.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a tutor or Saturday school.

Nope, the school has an obligation to address these gaps.

You should’ve learned that public education in this country is a joke. We all saw that last year with online learning. Get your kid a tutor.

Public education here is excellent, but there are many hyper-privileged types that expect the county to raise their kids for them.

LMAO. Excellent? Not by a long shot. Especially not in MoCo. We do have some excellent teachers. But the school system as a whole is pretty subpar.

That's strange. I feel my kids are getting a much better education than I did at a W 30 years ago before attending an ivy.

You either have a bad memory or aren't very familiar with what's going on in the classroom now.

NP here, I disagree with you. I don’t feel my children have received a sub par education. You may be able to find a district with similar stats (ESOL, FARMS, etc) that has done better but MCPS overall prepares students quite well. What experiences and data do you have to support such statements?

MCPS giving students students unearned grades just to keep passing students through without basic skills. No late penalties and a minimum 50% is part of that problem. Keeping work examples at school so parents can’t see the real results is another factor. Same is true for all the 100% grades for completion or test corrections.