Son having a hard time deferred everywhere so far

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was in your exact same shoes this time last year. My son was deferred by almost every school, with the exception of one straight-up rejection, that he applied EA to. I think he applied to 8 in that round. Two of the deferrals were what he--and his college counselor--considered safeties. He added 4 additional applications to the 6 he was already planning for RD, by January 1. In the end, he applied to about 18 schools. Rejected by 2, waitlisted at 2 (both of which are ranked well below schools he did get into), and accepted into all the rest. While we had a lot of stress around this time, by Christmas, he just convinced himself that something would work out and just moved forward. It's hard to believe, but it does work out. I would pick a true rolling decision safety and get one acceptance under his belt in January or so, if he can. Good luck!

This. The volume of applications has surged, but because each kid (on average) is applying to more schools than before, not because there are more kids applying. So, in the musical chairs game, the number of chairs hasn't changed and the number of butts hasn't changed, there's just a lot more confusion before the music stops (which happens to be where we are right now). I'd advise getting an application or two out to quick rolling decision schools that have clear, modest admission standards and that would be fun to attend (e.g., Arizona, ASU, Kansas, Iowa, Iowa State) to serve as a pressure-release, but then just try to relax and let the process play out: Things almost certainly will end better than they look right now!

I agree with this, to a point. There ARE more applicants this year -- the Class of 20 deferrals, the Class of 21 students who were unhappy with their decisions reapplying, the international students who are now applying to the US schools again.

[Anonymous]

Class of 20 deferrals? Who defers 2 years? What colleges allow that? Never heard of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Auburn EA averages 4.21? fml

Remember grades are REALLY inflated.

My kid is in DCPS and for 18 months the entire school district did not give a grade lower than a B. (all C's and below were converted to "P"s which are not calculated into GPAs).
Then, if you signed your name on the papers, you got an A. The standards for As were ridiculously low. In quarters 3 and 4 of 20-21 all work was considered extra-credit. My son
and all his friends ended up with 300% in most classes.

This graduating class is screwed because so many kids have unusually high GPAs. The pool of high GPAs is much higher than usual.

This is so unfair. We live in an ordinary suburb (not DC) where kids have gotten real work and real grades ALL throughout the pandemic. My kids have As, Bs, and Cs on their report cards. SO FRUSTRATING.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was in your exact same shoes this time last year. My son was deferred by almost every school, with the exception of one straight-up rejection, that he applied EA to. I think he applied to 8 in that round. Two of the deferrals were what he--and his college counselor--considered safeties. He added 4 additional applications to the 6 he was already planning for RD, by January 1. In the end, he applied to about 18 schools. Rejected by 2, waitlisted at 2 (both of which are ranked well below schools he did get into), and accepted into all the rest. While we had a lot of stress around this time, by Christmas, he just convinced himself that something would work out and just moved forward. It's hard to believe, but it does work out. I would pick a true rolling decision safety and get one acceptance under his belt in January or so, if he can. Good luck!

This. The volume of applications has surged, but because each kid (on average) is applying to more schools than before, not because there are more kids applying. So, in the musical chairs game, the number of chairs hasn't changed and the number of butts hasn't changed, there's just a lot more confusion before the music stops (which happens to be where we are right now). I'd advise getting an application or two out to quick rolling decision schools that have clear, modest admission standards and that would be fun to attend (e.g., Arizona, ASU, Kansas, Iowa, Iowa State) to serve as a pressure-release, but then just try to relax and let the process play out: Things almost certainly will end better than they look right now!

I agree with this, to a point. There ARE more applicants this year -- the Class of 20 deferrals, the Class of 21 students who were unhappy with their decisions reapplying, the international students who are now applying to the US schools again.

International applications are below pre-pandemic levels, '20 deferrals = ~0, and '21 deferrals are at rounding-error levels. The number of applicants is basically the same as it has been for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the idiots telling people to apply to less than 10?

Some private schools only allow 10 applications

Don’t attend those private schools then. They’re out of touch. College application landscapes have changed a lot.

How is this remotely helpful? We are already in Senior year at a private school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Auburn EA averages 4.21? fml

Remember grades are REALLY inflated.

My kid is in DCPS and for 18 months the entire school district did not give a grade lower than a B. (all C's and below were converted to "P"s which are not calculated into GPAs).
Then, if you signed your name on the papers, you got an A. The standards for As were ridiculously low. In quarters 3 and 4 of 20-21 all work was considered extra-credit. My son
and all his friends ended up with 300% in most classes.

This graduating class is screwed because so many kids have unusually high GPAs. The pool of high GPAs is much higher than usual.

This is so unfair. We live in an ordinary suburb (not DC) where kids have gotten real work and real grades ALL throughout the pandemic. My kids have As, Bs, and Cs on their report cards. SO FRUSTRATING.

First of all don't take the PP's gripes about grade inflation as gospel. *Lots* of kids had a harder time during remote school for all kinds of reasons, and their grades show that. And secondly if you're going to complain that it's so unfair that your kids had uninterrupted in-person school throughout the pandemic and how unfair that is to YOUR kids, you really should find a different forum to complain to. You're not going to find a lot of sympathy here from public school families who had to manage kids' schooling for 18 months of distance learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the idiots telling people to apply to less than 10?

Some private schools only allow 10 applications

Don’t attend those private schools then. They’re out of touch. College application landscapes have changed a lot.

How is this remotely helpful? We are already in Senior year at a private school

I actually think coming from a top private will be a very good thing this year. colleges know what they're getting in the midst of whole lot of grading chaos from public.
-public and private school parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the idiots telling people to apply to less than 10?

Some private schools only allow 10 applications

Don’t attend those private schools then. They’re out of touch. College application landscapes have changed a lot.

How is this remotely helpful? We are already in Senior year at a private school

I'm sorry- it's hard to feel sorry for the privileged kids who have been in private school. There is no planet where these kids are disadvantaged in the college admissions process. College admissions understand the grading at these schools is different.

[Anonymous]

Apply to small private colleges or universities where you could receive merit and individual attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Auburn EA averages 4.21? fml

Remember grades are REALLY inflated.

My kid is in DCPS and for 18 months the entire school district did not give a grade lower than a B. (all C's and below were converted to "P"s which are not calculated into GPAs).
Then, if you signed your name on the papers, you got an A. The standards for As were ridiculously low. In quarters 3 and 4 of 20-21 all work was considered extra-credit. My son
and all his friends ended up with 300% in most classes.

This graduating class is screwed because so many kids have unusually high GPAs. The pool of high GPAs is much higher than usual.

This is so unfair. We live in an ordinary suburb (not DC) where kids have gotten real work and real grades ALL throughout the pandemic. My kids have As, Bs, and Cs on their report cards. SO FRUSTRATING.

First of all don't take the PP's gripes about grade inflation as gospel. *Lots* of kids had a harder time during remote school for all kinds of reasons, and their grades show that. And secondly if you're going to complain that it's so unfair that your kids had uninterrupted in-person school throughout the pandemic and how unfair that is to YOUR kids, you really should find a different forum to complain to. You're not going to find a lot of sympathy here from public school families who had to manage kids' schooling for 18 months of distance learning.

+100000
Absurd. Poor privileged families whose kids had a semi-normal year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Class of 20 deferrals? Who defers 2 years? What colleges allow that? Never heard of that.

Ugh duh? It's a snowball affect, the 20 deferrals led to 2021 deferrals by the colleges ... my neighbor's DC was admitted into three colleges, January 2023, not for fall 2022. The colleges will play catch up for a number of years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Auburn EA averages 4.21? fml

Remember grades are REALLY inflated.

My kid is in DCPS and for 18 months the entire school district did not give a grade lower than a B. (all C's and below were converted to "P"s which are not calculated into GPAs).
Then, if you signed your name on the papers, you got an A. The standards for As were ridiculously low. In quarters 3 and 4 of 20-21 all work was considered extra-credit. My son
and all his friends ended up with 300% in most classes.

This graduating class is screwed because so many kids have unusually high GPAs. The pool of high GPAs is much higher than usual.

This is so unfair. We live in an ordinary suburb (not DC) where kids have gotten real work and real grades ALL throughout the pandemic. My kids have As, Bs, and Cs on their report cards. SO FRUSTRATING.

First of all don't take the PP's gripes about grade inflation as gospel. *Lots* of kids had a harder time during remote school for all kinds of reasons, and their grades show that. And secondly if you're going to complain that it's so unfair that your kids had uninterrupted in-person school throughout the pandemic and how unfair that is to YOUR kids, you really should find a different forum to complain to. You're not going to find a lot of sympathy here from public school families who had to manage kids' schooling for 18 months of distance learning.

+100000
Absurd. Poor privileged families whose kids had a semi-normal year.

You've met your "assholedum" quota for the day. Go take your meds.

[Anonymous]

Add Butler as a safer school-great programs, sports, and fun vibe on campus!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Applied to 10 schools, well within range for all but 2. Received 5 deferrals so far. Very discouraged. Trying to help him focus on next steps in deferral process. FWIW the schools he applied to are seeing insane application volume increase. For example, Auburn, where EA admits used to be around 75 percent and were 24 percent this year.

I thought we covered this last year. People need to be applying to MORE SAFETIES. Period. I am not trying to be harsh, it is what it is, unfortunately.

Well, as OP pointed out, many schools that were safeties last year aren’t this year.

Well within the range are not safeties they are likely.

[Anonymous]

OP individually we feel your pain and don't be discouraged.

As for the ranting about why it is different this year, please remember there are the same number of seats and the same number of kids as in the past, so it will work out to be virtually the same as every year.

It's a stressful process and unpredictable always, but works out great for the vast majority of the kids. Be positive!