College tour...how to give the right vibe to my rebel teenager

Anonymous
OP here:
She will be fine. She is just worried that she won't fit in as English is her 3rd language and she did not learn it well until she was in high school in the US. French is her first. In DC diversity is not an issue for her, but people do still make comments. She does intend to go early entry direct to medical school. She wants this degree and is choosing colleges based on which of the 4 in the US have the program. She has wanted this career all of her life. Her dad and I are UN and she has lived this life all of her life in all of our postings. It make be a hard transition, but she will adjust i believe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here:
She will be fine. She is just worried that she won't fit in as English is her 3rd language and she did not learn it well until she was in high school in the US. French is her first. In DC diversity is not an issue for her, but people do still make comments. She does intend to go early entry direct to medical school. She wants this degree and is choosing colleges based on which of the 4 in the US have the program. She has wanted this career all of her life. Her dad and I are UN and she has lived this life all of her life in all of our postings. It make be a hard transition, but she will adjust i believe.


This is what I would do: Let her drive the process, esp. on the visit. But when you go to weigh the pros and cons of the schools, don't let any of the schools you visited that are on paper a good fit be cut from the list. Make a spreadsheet with a column each about academics, location, finances, noted qualities on the visit etc. where you input information and just matter-of-factly go through the list expressing the advantages and disadvantages of each. Lay out the finances --what money you have for school, what she could use it for etc. But then she decides. She's the one who has to live with the decision. But sometimes looking at it on a spreadsheet rather than while you are on the grounds makes the balance of factors a little more clear.
Anonymous
OP southern school
For a girl hard pass. Your daughter is correct let her go where she feels comfortable

What do you not understand about southern state’s at this point in time?

Polio heading your way or even better whooping cough.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here:
She will be fine. She is just worried that she won't fit in as English is her 3rd language and she did not learn it well until she was in high school in the US. French is her first. In DC diversity is not an issue for her, but people do still make comments. She does intend to go early entry direct to medical school. She wants this degree and is choosing colleges based on which of the 4 in the US have the program. She has wanted this career all of her life. Her dad and I are UN and she has lived this life all of her life in all of our postings. It make be a hard transition, but she will adjust i believe.


So the mind is made up, why ask the question? If she wants to be a doctor and has the direct link to one of the ED to Med school why are you here? I only say this with love, oldest just graduated Med School, middle currently in Med School and youngest well, I think Anthropology but they are our wild child. Point being is that Med School is real thing and the ED Med School programs are and advantage. Don't let the other things get in the way, a brilliant mind is a brilliant mind. Best to your child
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We are touring a college over Thanksgiving week. They have a fall preview day. The college has offered my daughter a full ride. I want to present a neutral attitude, however I want her to realize this is her best shot to graduate school debt free. I can graduate her debt free with her PhD degree if she takes advantage of going here. I don't want to come on too strong. We are spending two days meeting with her departments for under graduate and the direct admit graduate school she applied to. They also have a day of talks about dorms, walk the campus etc. If i oversell it she will not want to go just to do the opposite of what i want. She has been to see over 20 schools and has only liked UVA and Delaware Valley. She is concerned she is a child from and urban area and this is a southern school. She doesn't think her values will align. Any recommendations would be helpful.


Well, based on my experience, you say NOTHING about the college you want her to pick, and you praise some of the ones you don't want her to pick.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here:
She will be fine. She is just worried that she won't fit in as English is her 3rd language and she did not learn it well until she was in high school in the US. French is her first. In DC diversity is not an issue for her, but people do still make comments. She does intend to go early entry direct to medical school. She wants this degree and is choosing colleges based on which of the 4 in the US have the program. She has wanted this career all of her life. Her dad and I are UN and she has lived this life all of her life in all of our postings. It make be a hard transition, but she will adjust i believe.

Take a look at the school’s data about where the students are from. Just because it is in the south doesn’t mean all of the students are from there. Also, ask about student clubs or societies related to French or for international students or for medical or whatever else she is interested in. She doesn’t have to fit in with everyone, but she needs to see that she can find people that will share her interests.

Good luck!
Anonymous
Only 4 colleges in the country have this major? Is it smart to do something THAT niche?

You do know that chances are she’ll change her mind, right?
Anonymous
I'm totally confused. Is OP's student interested in med school or doing a PhD???
Anonymous
There are more than 4 direct admit MD programs in the US
https://www.minimedicalschool.com/ba_md_programs.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm totally confused. Is OP's student interested in med school or doing a PhD???


No wonder. I think OP confuses PhD and MD. Her daughter wants to go to a med school so OP is understandably concerned about the cost of that. Nothing to do with a PhD
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not sure what values the mom is concerned about for the daughter. I have lived all over the South, Virginia, D.C...and Boston. The most racist place I have ever lived - and the place where people felt okay verbalizing their racism....was Boston.



TRUE! Went to school and worked there for a decade. Boston is, by far, the most racist place I have ever lived.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is the Southern school thing again. Imagine you planted the bias in their head so live with it and reflect on your stupidity and hope they get into UVA.


this. It is incredible the bias and elitism that is still "acceptable" in 2021. SMH at OP.


It is more about the intolerance of the majority of people who live in "red" states, eschew science and want to impose their values on everyone else.



and you’re not intolerant, prejudiced and bigoted?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't see how a rebel teenage would like UVA. It seems more like a place for popular kids.



There is something for everyone at UVA …. Including over 900 clubs. Do you think admissions actually grades the files on popularity? It’s a public school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm totally confused. Is OP's student interested in med school or doing a PhD???


No wonder. I think OP confuses PhD and MD. Her daughter wants to go to a med school so OP is understandably concerned about the cost of that. Nothing to do with a PhD



https://students-residents.aamc.org/md-phd-dual-degree-training/md-phd-dual-degree-training

It is both.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm totally confused. Is OP's student interested in med school or doing a PhD???


No wonder. I think OP confuses PhD and MD. Her daughter wants to go to a med school so OP is understandably concerned about the cost of that. Nothing to do with a PhD



https://students-residents.aamc.org/md-phd-dual-degree-training/md-phd-dual-degree-training

It is both.


Interesting. I didn’t know about that. Still, I don’t think this is what op is talking about
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