APS - elementary boys out of control?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else hearing from their kids that some classmates (mostly boys) are out of control? We are in APS, DD is 3rd grade and is constantly telling me that lunchtime is a zoo. Like throwing food, running around, pouring drinks in others’ tables. This has been going on since September. I thought the school would get it under control by now (she says it’s a handful of the same boys), but it’s November and nothing seems to have changed. She’s not prone to exaggeration, and the class newsletter is repeatedly asking parents to speak to their kids about appropriate behavior (which clearly is not working). Is this just par for the course after a year off? It feels like the administration is being lazy; DD hates lunchtime which is new (at least compared to 1st grade), but I don’t want to raise the issue if I’m being unreasonable

Sounds like a couple of kids need to eat lunch at desks in the classroom with a teacher. And I hope they are meeting with these parents individually (repeatedly, if necessary) and not just putting the request in a newsletter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This may be true, but I also think it’s a cop out. I have 2 elementary boys. They are both kind, respectful and would never behave that way even at their craziest. Neither would their friends. 95 percent of their class is the same. So why does the 5 percent (or less) get to ruin it for everyone? It seems like “the pandemic was so hard” is the new “boys will be boys”. Throw up your hands and shake your head. I call BS.

Maybe those kids were abused while home for the past year and away from school. Maybe they lost a patent or other relative to COVID. Maybe a caregiver lost a job and the child went to bed hungry and is now facing eviction. So many kids have experienced real trauma leaving deep scars over the past year.

Be grateful your kids are not among them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may be true, but I also think it’s a cop out. I have 2 elementary boys. They are both kind, respectful and would never behave that way even at their craziest. Neither would their friends. 95 percent of their class is the same. So why does the 5 percent (or less) get to ruin it for everyone? It seems like “the pandemic was so hard” is the new “boys will be boys”. Throw up your hands and shake your head. I call BS.

Maybe those kids were abused while home for the past year and away from school. Maybe they lost a patent or other relative to COVID. Maybe a caregiver lost a job and the child went to bed hungry and is now facing eviction. So many kids have experienced real trauma leaving deep scars over the past year.

Be grateful your kids are not among them.

Yeah, no. I know some kids who are acting out. We are in what DCUM terms a “nice neighborhood”, highly desirable school pyramid with two parent families who have been teleworking the entire time. Possibly they went to bed hungry in their $1.5 million dollar house, but I highly doubt it. Conversations with their parents have been on how hard it is for their boys not to do sports. They are literally in the Arlington pipeline to become UMC entitled white males. Using this excuse for them minimizes the actual trauma other children have experienced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may be true, but I also think it’s a cop out. I have 2 elementary boys. They are both kind, respectful and would never behave that way even at their craziest. Neither would their friends. 95 percent of their class is the same. So why does the 5 percent (or less) get to ruin it for everyone? It seems like “the pandemic was so hard” is the new “boys will be boys”. Throw up your hands and shake your head. I call BS.

Maybe those kids were abused while home for the past year and away from school. Maybe they lost a patent or other relative to COVID. Maybe a caregiver lost a job and the child went to bed hungry and is now facing eviction. So many kids have experienced real trauma leaving deep scars over the past year.

Be grateful your kids are not among them.

Yeah, no. I know some kids who are acting out. We are in what DCUM terms a “nice neighborhood”, highly desirable school pyramid with two parent families who have been teleworking the entire time. Possibly they went to bed hungry in their $1.5 million dollar house, but I highly doubt it. Conversations with their parents have been on how hard it is for their boys not to do sports. They are literally in the Arlington pipeline to become UMC entitled white males. Using this excuse for them minimizes the actual trauma other children have experienced.

Totally agree- we must be neighbors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may be true, but I also think it’s a cop out. I have 2 elementary boys. They are both kind, respectful and would never behave that way even at their craziest. Neither would their friends. 95 percent of their class is the same. So why does the 5 percent (or less) get to ruin it for everyone? It seems like “the pandemic was so hard” is the new “boys will be boys”. Throw up your hands and shake your head. I call BS.

Maybe those kids were abused while home for the past year and away from school. Maybe they lost a patent or other relative to COVID. Maybe a caregiver lost a job and the child went to bed hungry and is now facing eviction. So many kids have experienced real trauma leaving deep scars over the past year.

Be grateful your kids are not among them.

Yeah, no. I know some kids who are acting out. We are in what DCUM terms a “nice neighborhood”, highly desirable school pyramid with two parent families who have been teleworking the entire time. Possibly they went to bed hungry in their $1.5 million dollar house, but I highly doubt it. Conversations with their parents have been on how hard it is for their boys not to do sports. They are literally in the Arlington pipeline to become UMC entitled white males. Using this excuse for them minimizes the actual trauma other children have experienced.

Many kids were not abused or lost family members but were still traumatized last year by the stress, social isolation and understimulation. Different children express in different ways. Maybe your children were fine throughout last year but many children were not. You can blame these boys' parents. But what about all the other children and their parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may be true, but I also think it’s a cop out. I have 2 elementary boys. They are both kind, respectful and would never behave that way even at their craziest. Neither would their friends. 95 percent of their class is the same. So why does the 5 percent (or less) get to ruin it for everyone? It seems like “the pandemic was so hard” is the new “boys will be boys”. Throw up your hands and shake your head. I call BS.

Maybe those kids were abused while home for the past year and away from school. Maybe they lost a patent or other relative to COVID. Maybe a caregiver lost a job and the child went to bed hungry and is now facing eviction. So many kids have experienced real trauma leaving deep scars over the past year.

Be grateful your kids are not among them.

Yeah, no. I know some kids who are acting out. We are in what DCUM terms a “nice neighborhood”, highly desirable school pyramid with two parent families who have been teleworking the entire time. Possibly they went to bed hungry in their $1.5 million dollar house, but I highly doubt it. Conversations with their parents have been on how hard it is for their boys not to do sports. They are literally in the Arlington pipeline to become UMC entitled white males. Using this excuse for them minimizes the actual trauma other children have experienced.

You have no idea what goes on in anybody else’s home

[Anonymous]

My 1st graders teacher has told me this is a very hard year for her class - kids are behind in reading especially and also acting looney on the playground. One kid was sent to the principal after clawing at my kid repeatedly. I have had a lot of conversations with my son about appropriate and inclusive play. I can’t know or judge what’s happening with the other kids, but I can try to instill some life lessons in my kid even at 6.

[Anonymous]

Oh, and a lot of sympathy to teachers. Covid definitely hasn’t ended for them, as they try to recoup the last two years in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may be true, but I also think it’s a cop out. I have 2 elementary boys. They are both kind, respectful and would never behave that way even at their craziest. Neither would their friends. 95 percent of their class is the same. So why does the 5 percent (or less) get to ruin it for everyone? It seems like “the pandemic was so hard” is the new “boys will be boys”. Throw up your hands and shake your head. I call BS.

Maybe those kids were abused while home for the past year and away from school. Maybe they lost a patent or other relative to COVID. Maybe a caregiver lost a job and the child went to bed hungry and is now facing eviction. So many kids have experienced real trauma leaving deep scars over the past year.

Be grateful your kids are not among them.

Yeah, no. I know some kids who are acting out. We are in what DCUM terms a “nice neighborhood”, highly desirable school pyramid with two parent families who have been teleworking the entire time. Possibly they went to bed hungry in their $1.5 million dollar house, but I highly doubt it. Conversations with their parents have been on how hard it is for their boys not to do sports. They are literally in the Arlington pipeline to become UMC entitled white males. Using this excuse for them minimizes the actual trauma other children have experienced.

You think abuse doesn’t happen in “nice neighborhoods”? Oh sweetie, you have a lot to learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may be true, but I also think it’s a cop out. I have 2 elementary boys. They are both kind, respectful and would never behave that way even at their craziest. Neither would their friends. 95 percent of their class is the same. So why does the 5 percent (or less) get to ruin it for everyone? It seems like “the pandemic was so hard” is the new “boys will be boys”. Throw up your hands and shake your head. I call BS.

Maybe those kids were abused while home for the past year and away from school. Maybe they lost a patent or other relative to COVID. Maybe a caregiver lost a job and the child went to bed hungry and is now facing eviction. So many kids have experienced real trauma leaving deep scars over the past year.

Be grateful your kids are not among them.

Yeah, no. I know some kids who are acting out. We are in what DCUM terms a “nice neighborhood”, highly desirable school pyramid with two parent families who have been teleworking the entire time. Possibly they went to bed hungry in their $1.5 million dollar house, but I highly doubt it. Conversations with their parents have been on how hard it is for their boys not to do sports. They are literally in the Arlington pipeline to become UMC entitled white males. Using this excuse for them minimizes the actual trauma other children have experienced.

You think abuse doesn’t happen in “nice neighborhoods”? Oh sweetie, you have a lot to learn.

That is not what PP was suggesting and you all know it. Everyone knows the kind of kids/families PP is talking about. The kids are disasters in the classrooms and the parents don’t do a thing about it. They complained about Covid because it was an inconvenience to their lifestyle (their kids couldn’t play basketball, etc). Otherwise they were perfectly fine. These are kids who were disruptive and disrespectful way before Covid.

[Anonymous]

Actually parenting and disciplining your children is amazing.

More people should try it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may be true, but I also think it’s a cop out. I have 2 elementary boys. They are both kind, respectful and would never behave that way even at their craziest. Neither would their friends. 95 percent of their class is the same. So why does the 5 percent (or less) get to ruin it for everyone? It seems like “the pandemic was so hard” is the new “boys will be boys”. Throw up your hands and shake your head. I call BS.

Maybe those kids were abused while home for the past year and away from school. Maybe they lost a patent or other relative to COVID. Maybe a caregiver lost a job and the child went to bed hungry and is now facing eviction. So many kids have experienced real trauma leaving deep scars over the past year.

Be grateful your kids are not among them.

Or maybe they’re spoiled brats with lazy parents who spent all of DL letting them run wild and telling them “you poor baby, you don’t have to do this Fake School!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually parenting and disciplining your children is amazing.

More people should try it.

+1 My kids were in APS elementary school 5-10+ years ago and there were issues with out-of-control boys then. The school administration needs to take a firmer hand, separate misbehaving kids, enforce lunchroom rules, and get the parents involved. Blaming this behavior on the pandemic is a cop-out.

[Anonymous]

just bail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually parenting and disciplining your children is amazing.

More people should try it.

whoa, tough talk from the 1950s.