Team Fees for ECNL Boys Teams

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Anonymous wrote:Ours was $1900 (2 payments of $950) and includes all but the kit and travel expenses. So no separate payment for tournaments, coach travel, training, fields, etc.

This is Skyline which isn't really either a fair comparison since they're not in the same metro area as everyone else, nor especially useful since most of us can't join .

All the DMV area teams are much more than this. I think Loudoun is the most expensive down to Arlington and BRYC which are the cheapest.

Loudoun is $2500 with no additional fee. BRYC is $2100 with additional $500 team fees.

Loudoun has an additional fee.

Not all age groups.

Loudoun parent here. Paid $2500 and no additional fee. We did buy new uniforms this year and of course have our own travel expenses to cover.

[Anonymous]

The local clubs are fleecing ECNL parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The local clubs are fleecing ECNL parents.

Not really. Herndon for example charges $2100 plus team fees and that’s to play CCL. That’s in line with valor and others. It’s the cost of living in NoVa.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington was $2710 for club fees and $700 for team fees. This did not include the kit and all players were required to buy new uniforms this year.

Team fees vary by age group depending on tournament plans etc. They are often based largely on last year's spending and are adjusted (up or down) mid-season in any case. Usually it's best to compare club fees and assume that team fees will work out the same.

Looks like Arlington has increased the club fees quite a bit recently though as they used to be on the low end. They have been getting greedier as they increased roster sizes in the last couple of years as well.

Can't compare club fees and team fees directly because, as a poster mentioned above, not every club breaks down fees the same into the same buckets, so the only way is to compare total cost that you pay to the club. I understand that not every team from the same club let alone from different clubs do the same tournaments, etc but total cost is the only way to go.

In which case you can only evaluate at year end, because at my DS' club we nearly always got a refund of ~$150+ at year end from the team fees.

That's a fair statement. We'll hash it it out now and then at the end.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The local clubs are fleecing ECNL parents.

Not really. Herndon for example charges $2100 plus team fees and that’s to play CCL. That’s in line with valor and others. It’s the cost of living in NoVa.

OK, Herndon and local ECNL club parents are fleecing parents. I fixed it for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The local clubs are fleecing ECNL parents.

Not really. Herndon for example charges $2100 plus team fees and that’s to play CCL. That’s in line with valor and others. It’s the cost of living in NoVa.

OK, Herndon and local ECNL club parents are fleecing parents. I fixed it for you.

If something’s not actually broken, you are not fixing anything. Stop saying that. It’s wrong and suggests that you possess intelligence, when you actually own only a great deal of arrogance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The local clubs are fleecing ECNL parents.

Not really. Herndon for example charges $2100 plus team fees and that’s to play CCL. That’s in line with valor and others. It’s the cost of living in NoVa.

OK, Herndon and local ECNL club parents are fleecing parents. I fixed it for you.

$2100 is getting fleeced? who charges less than that... and for what? I have one kid at a big club who pays less than that but the cost doesn't include tournaments or winter futsal, and they pretty much don't practice in the winter or summer. I have a kid at a smaller club who pays a bit more than $2100 but has practice year-round, 4-5 tournaments a year, and winter futsal. Also small club has one extra practice a week. The higher-cost club is a much better value for our money.

If I had to guess, I would assume that ECNL teams are paying a premium for the most highly trained coaches and that they participate in more (and more expensive) tournaments than other teams.

I used to be a treasurer for a team and, if you see a budget, you'd understand how a team can easily get to $2500 or even $3000. And the budgets I oversaw had coaches who were paid $1000-$1200 per month -- no one is getting rich off of this. But clubs and teams pay a lot of money for everything in this area!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The local clubs are fleecing ECNL parents.

Not really. Herndon for example charges $2100 plus team fees and that’s to play CCL. That’s in line with valor and others. It’s the cost of living in NoVa.

OK, Herndon and local ECNL club parents are fleecing parents. I fixed it for you.

$2100 is getting fleeced? who charges less than that... and for what? I have one kid at a big club who pays less than that but the cost doesn't include tournaments or winter futsal, and they pretty much don't practice in the winter or summer. I have a kid at a smaller club who pays a bit more than $2100 but has practice year-round, 4-5 tournaments a year, and winter futsal. Also small club has one extra practice a week. The higher-cost club is a much better value for our money.

If I had to guess, I would assume that ECNL teams are paying a premium for the most highly trained coaches and that they participate in more (and more expensive) tournaments than other teams.

I used to be a treasurer for a team and, if you see a budget, you'd understand how a team can easily get to $2500 or even $3000. And the budgets I oversaw had coaches who were paid $1000-$1200 per month -- no one is getting rich off of this. But clubs and teams pay a lot of money for everything in this area!

Loudoun ECNL coaches are paid 40k per team.

[Anonymous]

Well, that explains the higher cost for ECNL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The local clubs are fleecing ECNL parents.

Not really. Herndon for example charges $2100 plus team fees and that’s to play CCL. That’s in line with valor and others. It’s the cost of living in NoVa.

OK, Herndon and local ECNL club parents are fleecing parents. I fixed it for you.

$2100 is getting fleeced? who charges less than that... and for what? I have one kid at a big club who pays less than that but the cost doesn't include tournaments or winter futsal, and they pretty much don't practice in the winter or summer. I have a kid at a smaller club who pays a bit more than $2100 but has practice year-round, 4-5 tournaments a year, and winter futsal. Also small club has one extra practice a week. The higher-cost club is a much better value for our money.

If I had to guess, I would assume that ECNL teams are paying a premium for the most highly trained coaches and that they participate in more (and more expensive) tournaments than other teams.

I used to be a treasurer for a team and, if you see a budget, you'd understand how a team can easily get to $2500 or even $3000. And the budgets I oversaw had coaches who were paid $1000-$1200 per month -- no one is getting rich off of this. But clubs and teams pay a lot of money for everything in this area!

Loudoun ECNL coaches are paid 40k per team.

no, they are not. trust me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The local clubs are fleecing ECNL parents.

Not really. Herndon for example charges $2100 plus team fees and that’s to play CCL. That’s in line with valor and others. It’s the cost of living in NoVa.

OK, Herndon and local ECNL club parents are fleecing parents. I fixed it for you.

$2100 is getting fleeced? who charges less than that... and for what? I have one kid at a big club who pays less than that but the cost doesn't include tournaments or winter futsal, and they pretty much don't practice in the winter or summer. I have a kid at a smaller club who pays a bit more than $2100 but has practice year-round, 4-5 tournaments a year, and winter futsal. Also small club has one extra practice a week. The higher-cost club is a much better value for our money.

If I had to guess, I would assume that ECNL teams are paying a premium for the most highly trained coaches and that they participate in more (and more expensive) tournaments than other teams.

I used to be a treasurer for a team and, if you see a budget, you'd understand how a team can easily get to $2500 or even $3000. And the budgets I oversaw had coaches who were paid $1000-$1200 per month -- no one is getting rich off of this. But clubs and teams pay a lot of money for everything in this area!

Loudoun ECNL coaches are paid 40k per team.

no, they are not. trust me.

40k is a lie, that’s not true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The local clubs are fleecing ECNL parents.

Not really. Herndon for example charges $2100 plus team fees and that’s to play CCL. That’s in line with valor and others. It’s the cost of living in NoVa.

$2100 for non ECNL is expensive. After travel expenses etc will end up above $5000

[Anonymous]

http://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/financial-aid-scholarship-information

https://mcleansoccer.org/registration-fees/

http://www.brycsoccer.com/about-us/fees

https://www.loudounsoccer.com/Default.aspx?tabid=2738721

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The local clubs are fleecing ECNL parents.

Not really. Herndon for example charges $2100 plus team fees and that’s to play CCL. That’s in line with valor and others. It’s the cost of living in NoVa.

$2100 for non ECNL is expensive. After travel expenses etc will end up above $5000

huh? non-ECNL teams do not have $3K in travel expenses!

[Anonymous]

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http://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/financial-aid-scholarship-information

https://mcleansoccer.org/registration-fees/

http://www.brycsoccer.com/about-us/fees

https://www.loudounsoccer.com/Default.aspx?tabid=2738721

I have had kids at two of these clubs and these prices don't tell the whole story. Without knowing what's included it's meaningless.