Brent vs. Maury vs. Ludlow-Taylor

[Anonymous]

If you have trouble finding an apartment you like you could look at Van Ness, which is in the Navy Yard and has tons of buildings, a fair amount of 2-3BR, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

[Anonymous]

IF you want a luxury apartment building check out the area around Nats Park that feeds to Van Ness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

Oh please. Signed, Maury parent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

New pre k L-T parent. It was my understanding as well that L-T was the more diverse of the 3 schools. I was absolutely shocked at the lack of diversity in pk3-k classes this year. It was disappointing. Maybe it is still true for the upper grades? Aside from that we have been happy with the school so far but it has only been a few weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

New pre k L-T parent. It was my understanding as well that L-T was the more diverse of the 3 schools. I was absolutely shocked at the lack of diversity in pk3-k classes this year. It was disappointing. Maybe it is still true for the upper grades? Aside from that we have been happy with the school so far but it has only been a few weeks.

You should definitely lottery for JO Wilson next year. You'll be much happier there than at L-T, especially if you're one of the only non-whites at L-T.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

We get it. You're an L-T parent on the PTO and working hard to boost the school (and, ideally, the value of your house). L-T isn't bad, but I don't think it's the same as Maury or Brent. The stats bear that out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

We get it. You're an L-T parent on the PTO and working hard to boost the school (and, ideally, the value of your house). L-T isn't bad, but I don't think it's the same as Maury or Brent. The stats bear that out.

I REALLY wish you would go way. If you're Maury or Brent parent, you're really pretty pitiful, and doing the opposite of convincing people that Maury and Brent are of a "higher tier." If I thought Maury and Brent were filled with parents like you I'd probably opt for L-T.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

New pre k L-T parent. It was my understanding as well that L-T was the more diverse of the 3 schools. I was absolutely shocked at the lack of diversity in pk3-k classes this year. It was disappointing. Maybe it is still true for the upper grades? Aside from that we have been happy with the school so far but it has only been a few weeks.

You mean all white PK, right? I felt the same at Maury several years ago. L-T is probably making similar transition where most of the lower ages are mostly white due to gentrification. I also thought that it might be possible that lower income parents relied on other kinds of childcare that fit better with work schedules, or maybe just did not even know about the lottery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

We get it. You're an L-T parent on the PTO and working hard to boost the school (and, ideally, the value of your house). L-T isn't bad, but I don't think it's the same as Maury or Brent. The stats bear that out.

Serious question: What stats? PP is right that the stats are equivalent when broken down demographically. Overall, yes Brent & Maury are richer and whiter, so the meaningless “average” stats are higher (although the year before last year of available stats that wasn’t even true for ELA for LT v Brent), but the Stats at LT for both sets of demographics relative to those demographics average performance are actually very good. Is there a “stat” you’re looking at other than pure average test scores? No one is denying that L-T is like 40/40/20 white/AA/other & mixed and Brent and Maury are much whiter…

To be clear, I’m not knocking Brent and Maury at all. We have tons of happy friends at both of those schools and my impression is that they’re both really solid schools. Maury, in particular, we don’t know anyone who doesn’t really like it personally. Like I said, the only complaint I’ve heard that isn’t true at LT is overcrowding of the building (mostly Brent; the new Maury building is incredible) and bigger class sizes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

New pre k L-T parent. It was my understanding as well that L-T was the more diverse of the 3 schools. I was absolutely shocked at the lack of diversity in pk3-k classes this year. It was disappointing. Maybe it is still true for the upper grades? Aside from that we have been happy with the school so far but it has only been a few weeks.

It weirdly seems to vary a lot even between grades and classes. My DD’s PK4 class was more Asian than AA, which is not at all what the stats would suggest… but then my DS’s PK3 class 3 years later was roughly 40% AA as the overall school stats suggest. Then my DD’s K class was considerably more diverse (though still less diverse than the overall school figures), but at graduation I saw that one of the classes was like 90% white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

If "more diverse" is code for more low SES AA kids than Maury and Brent, granted. But if you're looking for more national, international and ethnic diversity, Maury and Brent attract all sorts of interesting families from around the region, country and world on a scale that LT can't compete with yet. In another 10 years, probably, but not just yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

If "more diverse" is code for more low SES AA kids than Maury and Brent, granted. But if you're looking for more national, international and ethnic diversity, Maury and Brent attract all sorts of interesting families from around the region, country and world on a scale that LT can't compete with yet. In another 10 years, probably, but not just yet.

IT IS NOT A COMPETITION THEY ARE ALL GOOD SCHOOLS!!

sheesh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

If "more diverse" is code for more low SES AA kids than Maury and Brent, granted. But if you're looking for more national, international and ethnic diversity, Maury and Brent attract all sorts of interesting families from around the region, country and world on a scale that LT can't compete with yet. In another 10 years, probably, but not just yet.

Lol sounds like “all sorts of interesting families” is code for white people with different accents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maury and Brent are a tier above Ludlow-Taylor.

This, but OP should be fine at Ludlow if that's where the family ends up, particularly if they're not aiming for the upper elementary grades or a neighborhood middle school.

L-T has the best of the neighborhood middle schools, so that's sort of an odd comment... But the reality is that L-T is more diverse than Brent or Maury. I personally think that's a good thing. The UMC/high achieving cohort is plenty big enough for a kid to find his/her people and L-T's scores broken down by demographics are on par w/ Brent & Maury's, and have at times been better than Brent's. I actually think the in-school experience is just as good at L-T as at Brent or Maury. On some level, the real difference is the size of the UMC cohort (75% v 95%) and the size of the PTO budget ($80K v $150K?? (guessing at the latter numbers)).

If "more diverse" is code for more low SES AA kids than Maury and Brent, granted. But if you're looking for more national, international and ethnic diversity, Maury and Brent attract all sorts of interesting families from around the region, country and world on a scale that LT can't compete with yet. In another 10 years, probably, but not just yet.

Lol sounds like “all sorts of interesting families” is code for white people with different accents.

Who are almost certainly also English speaking since the ELL rates are virtually identical across all 3 schools (3 v 3 v 4). I’m curious where PP gets that stat anyway, since DCPS doesn’t even track international students other than ELL.