Is a 1430 good enough for unhooked applicant to get into UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:Yikes. My oldest just entered MS. So where do all the A students who did well on SATs but don't get into UVA go? Is it likely GMU or JMU only? So crazy competitive.

They have other great options such as W&M, Michigan, etc. Admissions can be unpredictable these days. Just because a school like UVA took a pass on a kid doesn’t mean another will. A friend’s DD was WL’d at Michigan but accepted at UCLA. The key to this game is to apply to a diverse list of schools that your kid would be happy attending. Don’t get too hung up on THE one or the ultimate dream school.

Out of curiosity, how many schools do kids end up applying to? Or what is the recommended number? We are well off from admissions time but knowledge never hurts.

[Anonymous]

as others have said, get the grades up enough that they are at least top 5% of the class and she'll get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. My oldest just entered MS. So where do all the A students who did well on SATs but don't get into UVA go? Is it likely GMU or JMU only? So crazy competitive.

They have other great options such as W&M, Michigan, etc. Admissions can be unpredictable these days. Just because a school like UVA took a pass on a kid doesn’t mean another will. A friend’s DD was WL’d at Michigan but accepted at UCLA. The key to this game is to apply to a diverse list of schools that your kid would be happy attending. Don’t get too hung up on THE one or the ultimate dream school.

Out of curiosity, how many schools do kids end up applying to? Or what is the recommended number? We are well off from admissions time but knowledge never hurts.

Typically b/t 10-15. Of course there are those who apply to way less (5) or way more (i have seen friend's kid do 23, keep in mind the UC system is one app to all of the UC schools of your choice).

Some time the limit will depend on your high school. Some area schools limit to 10 (meaning that is all the schools they will send recommendation and transcripts to). Do a search on this site and see what folks have said in the past.

If you are a bit ways off, then help your student to maintain good grades and good study habits. If they have the grades and the right attitude, this doesn't have to be a terrible journey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. My oldest just entered MS. So where do all the A students who did well on SATs but don't get into UVA go? Is it likely GMU or JMU only? So crazy competitive.

They have other great options such as W&M, Michigan, etc. Admissions can be unpredictable these days. Just because a school like UVA took a pass on a kid doesn’t mean another will. A friend’s DD was WL’d at Michigan but accepted at UCLA. The key to this game is to apply to a diverse list of schools that your kid would be happy attending. Don’t get too hung up on THE one or the ultimate dream school.

Out of curiosity, how many schools do kids end up applying to? Or what is the recommended number? We are well off from admissions time but knowledge never hurts.

Typically b/t 10-15. Of course there are those who apply to way less (5) or way more (i have seen friend's kid do 23, keep in mind the UC system is one app to all of the UC schools of your choice).

Some time the limit will depend on your high school. Some area schools limit to 10 (meaning that is all the schools they will send recommendation and transcripts to). Do a search on this site and see what folks have said in the past.

If you are a bit ways off, then help your student to maintain good grades and good study habits. If they have the grades and the right attitude, this doesn't have to be a terrible journey.

Very helpful. Thank you, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. My oldest just entered MS. So where do all the A students who did well on SATs but don't get into UVA go? Is it likely GMU or JMU only? So crazy competitive.

They have other great options such as W&M, Michigan, etc. Admissions can be unpredictable these days. Just because a school like UVA took a pass on a kid doesn’t mean another will. A friend’s DD was WL’d at Michigan but accepted at UCLA. The key to this game is to apply to a diverse list of schools that your kid would be happy attending. Don’t get too hung up on THE one or the ultimate dream school.

Michigan and UCLA out of state is probably not an option for most kids. If you have money though, your kid will have options

[Anonymous]

It is not to late for kid to do something novel before submitting app. Organize a food drive, drive kids to get vaxxed, organize a register to vote drive + tie it to essay

[Anonymous]

UVA, like all colleges, or more selective colleges, compare a student’s stats to others from their high school. If 1430 is a great score at your kid’s high school, then it’s great. The data from Naviance should help you assess where your kid’s score falls relative to their peers applying to UVA. As for data in Naviance, only go by the data in the scatter plot. That data is based on last year’s class, and thus is current. The bit about you’re a reach/match, etc. is bogus because it’s based on ten years of data. Admissions standards at selective schools have changed too much during that period to make these judgments authoritative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you in state?

Yes, in state.

88% chance

[Anonymous]

Have her apply ED for an unpopular softish major like women studies, philosophy, Slavic studies, and along those lines. Make sure a college counselor (hire one) reviews her application and essay.

[Anonymous]

Hey now, my kid is double-majoring in one of those subjects & it is anything but soft.

[Anonymous]

And UVA admits you to one of the colleges, not by major.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA, like all colleges, or more selective colleges, compare a student’s stats to others from their high school. If 1430 is a great score at your kid’s high school, then it’s great. The data from Naviance should help you assess where your kid’s score falls relative to their peers applying to UVA. As for data in Naviance, only go by the data in the scatter plot. That data is based on last year’s class, and thus is current. The bit about you’re a reach/match, etc. is bogus because it’s based on ten years of data. Admissions standards at selective schools have changed too much during that period to make these judgments authoritative.

The scatterplot data depends on which high school you’re at and what the counselors do for it.

[Anonymous]

No. It is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have her apply ED for an unpopular softish major like women studies, philosophy, Slavic studies, and along those lines. Make sure a college counselor (hire one) reviews her application and essay.

Not philosophy. People that major in philosophy usually have higher SAT scores--this is the case at competitive schools per published data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have her apply ED for an unpopular softish major like women studies, philosophy, Slavic studies, and along those lines. Make sure a college counselor (hire one) reviews her application and essay.

Not philosophy. People that major in philosophy usually have higher SAT scores--this is the case at competitive schools per published data.

Philosophy? They are typically among the smartest. It is not a gut major.