Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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I don't think Lively will get everything, but Baldoni has very much opened himself up to broad discovery by including so many texts and emails in his complaint. This is how litigation works. Once one side has introduced exchanges like that as relevant, you have to be able to produce the full exchange. Lively's complaint was more narrowly focused than Baldoni's, and Baldoni's legal team made a big deal about putting it all out there. So this was somewhat inevitable, even though it will wind up getting narrowed and walked back by the magistrate judge.


Lively's team can certainly request the full contextualized versions of the text chains he cites. And they should. That is not the same as all records going back 3 years for every person on their list.


I finally actually saw the subpoenas and this isn't accurate. They aren't even asking for 2.5 years.

For the Wayfarer entities and Jennifer Abel, they ask for records dating back to Dec. 1, 2022, which was the month that Lively came on board with the production.

For Melissa Nathan and the TAG entities, they as for production dating from July, 2024, when Nathan was hired by Baldoni.

Both of those seem reasonable to me, assuming the requests will be circumscribed to excluded privileged and irrelevant communications. I would actually assume that the request would be limited to communications between the identified parties. So they wouldn't include every communication -- not records of people communicating with their spouses or their Bumble dates or their doctor's office or their kid's school. But I could see them asking for all communications between Baldoni and Heath, or between Baldoni and Abel, or between Nathan and Baldoni, during those time periods. The Nathan/TAG request is particularly relevant.

The wild card is that they ask for records for Jed Wallace dating back to December 2022. This part looks like a "fishing expedition" to me and I think reflects the degree to which they truly do not know when Wallace came on board or exactly how he's involved. I would expect Wallace to fight that quite hard and for Lively's team to have to show relevance. I guess we'll see what they show in their amended complaint. Right now I don't think they have anywhere close to enough to ask for that from Wallace.


Oh that's not that extreme at. I thought Justin's lawyer said they wanted every single text message and email?

Question wouldn't Jeb have to answer when officially got involved with the case? Then they can tailor his request better. We know he was hired for Justin so he can't lie to try and get out of pf it right? I guess he could lie lol but it wouldn't work


They did request every single text message, location. and phone call irrespective of recipient. Pp is just hypothesizing how someone might narrow it since Blake’s lawyers did not. That isn’t how discovery works.
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Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.


You and the other mommy defender watched that video and that’s your conclusion? Uh, cool!


DP and didn't watch the video at all because literally who cares about his mom. That's not at all what makes this so interesting.


+1, I'm not running around watching random videos of Ryan Reynold's mom because I don't really care. I think it's weird anyone does.


It’s a video of Ryan and his mom and Atlas promoting IEWU and is relevant to show that RR and his wife did in fact try to take over the movie.
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Anonymous wrote:BL needs to settle - the comments all over social media are slaughtering her. She went too far.


Why would she settle this early in the lawsuit? She has nothing to lose and will contuine.


Of course she has more things to lose, starting with even more damage to her reputation.


The damage is already done. She has her talent agency standing behind her so she has nothing to lose. She will fight and settle only think about settling sometime next year before the trial.


Yeah, this entire thread is living in a bubble. Most people don't read DCUM, or follow reddit entertainment threads. My 16 year old has never heard of Blake Lively or Justin (/Jason) Baldoni. Deadpool, yes. If Lively's having trouble getting work, that's another thing, but she has a project coming out, while Baldoni's projects seems to be on hold. She can always stay at home for a while and work on collaborating on projects if she wants I guess.
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I don't think Lively will get everything, but Baldoni has very much opened himself up to broad discovery by including so many texts and emails in his complaint. This is how litigation works. Once one side has introduced exchanges like that as relevant, you have to be able to produce the full exchange. Lively's complaint was more narrowly focused than Baldoni's, and Baldoni's legal team made a big deal about putting it all out there. So this was somewhat inevitable, even though it will wind up getting narrowed and walked back by the magistrate judge.


Lively's team can certainly request the full contextualized versions of the text chains he cites. And they should. That is not the same as all records going back 3 years for every person on their list.


I finally actually saw the subpoenas and this isn't accurate. They aren't even asking for 2.5 years.

For the Wayfarer entities and Jennifer Abel, they ask for records dating back to Dec. 1, 2022, which was the month that Lively came on board with the production.

For Melissa Nathan and the TAG entities, they as for production dating from July, 2024, when Nathan was hired by Baldoni.

Both of those seem reasonable to me, assuming the requests will be circumscribed to excluded privileged and irrelevant communications. I would actually assume that the request would be limited to communications between the identified parties. So they wouldn't include every communication -- not records of people communicating with their spouses or their Bumble dates or their doctor's office or their kid's school. But I could see them asking for all communications between Baldoni and Heath, or between Baldoni and Abel, or between Nathan and Baldoni, during those time periods. The Nathan/TAG request is particularly relevant.

The wild card is that they ask for records for Jed Wallace dating back to December 2022. This part looks like a "fishing expedition" to me and I think reflects the degree to which they truly do not know when Wallace came on board or exactly how he's involved. I would expect Wallace to fight that quite hard and for Lively's team to have to show relevance. I guess we'll see what they show in their amended complaint. Right now I don't think they have anywhere close to enough to ask for that from Wallace.


Oh that's not that extreme at. I thought Justin's lawyer said they wanted every single text message and email?

Question wouldn't Jeb have to answer when officially got involved with the case? Then they can tailor his request better. We know he was hired for Justin so he can't lie to try and get out of pf it right? I guess he could lie lol but it wouldn't work


They did request every single text message, location. and phone call irrespective of recipient. Pp is just hypothesizing how someone might narrow it since Blake’s lawyers did not. That isn’t how discovery works.


It is though. You don't want to be going back to the court for every new little thing you want. You don't want to ask for phone records for June 14th and then find out a month later you also need them for June 10th and 11th. If you do the this way, discovery takes forever and you are very likely to miss things because of time constraints. Initial discovery requests are always broad, with the understanding they will be scaled back because the other side will argue to narrow the timeline, declare certain things privileged, request to have other things reviewed for privilege and relevancy, etc. You start broad and vague and then narrow because that gets you the maximum amount. Whereas starting narrow makes it very likely you'll miss something important.

This request was broader than most, but I can see them making the argument that because Baldoni's side has introduced a ton of communications from throughout this period, they needed to be more maximal. Again, it will be pulled back no matter what so there's not a ton of harm in going very broad with your first stab.

The main irregularity here is that they filed this subpoena prior to even filing their amended complaint or before any responses are filed. Might have to do with the MTDs coming up, I don't know. The timing was a little odd to me. The request itself is very broad but doesn't strike me as that weird given how discovery in a case is likely to work.
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Anonymous wrote:BL needs to settle - the comments all over social media are slaughtering her. She went too far.


Why would she settle this early in the lawsuit? She has nothing to lose and will contuine.


Of course she has more things to lose, starting with even more damage to her reputation.


The damage is already done. She has her talent agency standing behind her so she has nothing to lose. She will fight and settle only think about settling sometime next year before the trial.


Yeah, this entire thread is living in a bubble. Most people don't read DCUM, or follow reddit entertainment threads. My 16 year old has never heard of Blake Lively or Justin (/Jason) Baldoni. Deadpool, yes. If Lively's having trouble getting work, that's another thing, but she has a project coming out, while Baldoni's projects seems to be on hold. She can always stay at home for a while and work on collaborating on projects if she wants I guess.


I can’t wait to see if A Simple Favor 2 bombs. I do feel sorry for Anna Kendrick. I read she wants nothing to do with BL.
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XmJg3SEa8&t=165s&pp=2AGlAZACAQ%3D%3D

Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.


You and the other mommy defender watched that video and that’s your conclusion? Uh, cool!


DP and didn't watch the video at all because literally who cares about his mom. That's not at all what makes this so interesting.


+1, I'm not running around watching random videos of Ryan Reynold's mom because I don't really care. I think it's weird anyone does.


It’s a video of Ryan and his mom and Atlas promoting IEWU and is relevant to show that RR and his wife did in fact try to take over the movie.


Exactly. Lively’s defenders here are stupid or dishohest - pick a struggle, those are the options, and it’s a fair observation. I described how it was relevant to BL and RR’s grabbing the marketing reins when I posted.

I’ve read some speculation about another element of the production - that Lively malingered to control the rhythm of production. She is a mom of 4, but she was hired to do a job on a specific schedule. She has her crackhead MIL available along with a husband and effectively limitless money for nannies and caregivers and private nursing. Did SHE have, can SHE produce documentation of 4 bouts of strep and one of flu during this relatively short period of time? Because she is in the rare position of having a wealth of options to care for sick kids. Or was she fqn with the production in that way, too, to destabilize everything, and grease the slide to taking over more of IEWU?
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XmJg3SEa8&t=165s&pp=2AGlAZACAQ%3D%3D

Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.


You and the other mommy defender watched that video and that’s your conclusion? Uh, cool!


DP and didn't watch the video at all because literally who cares about his mom. That's not at all what makes this so interesting.


+1, I'm not running around watching random videos of Ryan Reynold's mom because I don't really care. I think it's weird anyone does.


It’s a video of Ryan and his mom and Atlas promoting IEWU and is relevant to show that RR and his wife did in fact try to take over the movie.


That was promotion though. The movie was already done at that point. And honestly, at that stage, using Ryan (and his mom) and Hugh Jackman to help bring attention to the movie can only be viewed positively as a way to drive box office. There's no cause of action for bringing a movie additional press. Regardless of conflict over the movie itself, that can only benefit everyone involved.
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Anonymous wrote:BL needs to settle - the comments all over social media are slaughtering her. She went too far.


Why would she settle this early in the lawsuit? She has nothing to lose and will contuine.


Of course she has more things to lose, starting with even more damage to her reputation.


The damage is already done. She has her talent agency standing behind her so she has nothing to lose. She will fight and settle only think about settling sometime next year before the trial.


Yeah, this entire thread is living in a bubble. Most people don't read DCUM, or follow reddit entertainment threads. My 16 year old has never heard of Blake Lively or Justin (/Jason) Baldoni. Deadpool, yes. If Lively's having trouble getting work, that's another thing, but she has a project coming out, while Baldoni's projects seems to be on hold. She can always stay at home for a while and work on collaborating on projects if she wants I guess.


Yeah. This is the bubble. Not whoever is telling BL/RR they’ve got this.
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Anonymous wrote:BL needs to settle - the comments all over social media are slaughtering her. She went too far.


Why would she settle this early in the lawsuit? She has nothing to lose and will contuine.


Of course she has more things to lose, starting with even more damage to her reputation.


The damage is already done. She has her talent agency standing behind her so she has nothing to lose. She will fight and settle only think about settling sometime next year before the trial.


Yeah, this entire thread is living in a bubble. Most people don't read DCUM, or follow reddit entertainment threads. My 16 year old has never heard of Blake Lively or Justin (/Jason) Baldoni. Deadpool, yes. If Lively's having trouble getting work, that's another thing, but she has a project coming out, while Baldoni's projects seems to be on hold. She can always stay at home for a while and work on collaborating on projects if she wants I guess.


I can’t wait to see if A Simple Favor 2 bombs. I do feel sorry for Anna Kendrick. I read she wants nothing to do with BL.


It's a streaming movie so it can't really "bomb". It could get bad reviews but the standards will be lower for a streamer. You are competing against a lot of crap. It will probably do fine given a strong cast and the fact that they shot on location in Italy -- streaming audience will eat up the scenery, costumes, and pretty people.
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XmJg3SEa8&t=165s&pp=2AGlAZACAQ%3D%3D

Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.


You and the other mommy defender watched that video and that’s your conclusion? Uh, cool!


DP and didn't watch the video at all because literally who cares about his mom. That's not at all what makes this so interesting.


+1, I'm not running around watching random videos of Ryan Reynold's mom because I don't really care. I think it's weird anyone does.


It’s a video of Ryan and his mom and Atlas promoting IEWU and is relevant to show that RR and his wife did in fact try to take over the movie.


Exactly. Lively’s defenders here are stupid or dishohest - pick a struggle, those are the options, and it’s a fair observation. I described how it was relevant to BL and RR’s grabbing the marketing reins when I posted.

I’ve read some speculation about another element of the production - that Lively malingered to control the rhythm of production. She is a mom of 4, but she was hired to do a job on a specific schedule. She has her crackhead MIL available along with a husband and effectively limitless money for nannies and caregivers and private nursing. Did SHE have, can SHE produce documentation of 4 bouts of strep and one of flu during this relatively short period of time? Because she is in the rare position of having a wealth of options to care for sick kids. Or was she fqn with the production in that way, too, to destabilize everything, and grease the slide to taking over more of IEWU?


Absolutely fantastic point. I wouldn’t put it past her. I truly believe RR and BL wanted to take over this franchise just like he did with Deadpool.
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Anonymous wrote:BL needs to settle - the comments all over social media are slaughtering her. She went too far.


Why would she settle this early in the lawsuit? She has nothing to lose and will contuine.


Of course she has more things to lose, starting with even more damage to her reputation.


The damage is already done. She has her talent agency standing behind her so she has nothing to lose. She will fight and settle only think about settling sometime next year before the trial.


Yeah, this entire thread is living in a bubble. Most people don't read DCUM, or follow reddit entertainment threads. My 16 year old has never heard of Blake Lively or Justin (/Jason) Baldoni. Deadpool, yes. If Lively's having trouble getting work, that's another thing, but she has a project coming out, while Baldoni's projects seems to be on hold. She can always stay at home for a while and work on collaborating on projects if she wants I guess.


I can’t wait to see if A Simple Favor 2 bombs. I do feel sorry for Anna Kendrick. I read she wants nothing to do with BL.


It's a streaming movie so it can't really "bomb". It could get bad reviews but the standards will be lower for a streamer. You are competing against a lot of crap. It will probably do fine given a strong cast and the fact that they shot on location in Italy -- streaming audience will eat up the scenery, costumes, and pretty people.


Was it always supposed to go direct to streaming?
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XmJg3SEa8&t=165s&pp=2AGlAZACAQ%3D%3D

Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.


You and the other mommy defender watched that video and that’s your conclusion? Uh, cool!


DP and didn't watch the video at all because literally who cares about his mom. That's not at all what makes this so interesting.


+1, I'm not running around watching random videos of Ryan Reynold's mom because I don't really care. I think it's weird anyone does.


It’s a video of Ryan and his mom and Atlas promoting IEWU and is relevant to show that RR and his wife did in fact try to take over the movie.


Exactly. Lively’s defenders here are stupid or dishohest - pick a struggle, those are the options, and it’s a fair observation. I described how it was relevant to BL and RR’s grabbing the marketing reins when I posted.

I’ve read some speculation about another element of the production - that Lively malingered to control the rhythm of production. She is a mom of 4, but she was hired to do a job on a specific schedule. She has her crackhead MIL available along with a husband and effectively limitless money for nannies and caregivers and private nursing. Did SHE have, can SHE produce documentation of 4 bouts of strep and one of flu during this relatively short period of time? Because she is in the rare position of having a wealth of options to care for sick kids. Or was she fqn with the production in that way, too, to destabilize everything, and grease the slide to taking over more of IEWU?


Not being interested in RR's mom doesn't make someone a Blake supporter. I literally just don't care and don't want to read a bunch of insults about some old woman who isn't an actor. It's distasteful.
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I don't think Lively will get everything, but Baldoni has very much opened himself up to broad discovery by including so many texts and emails in his complaint. This is how litigation works. Once one side has introduced exchanges like that as relevant, you have to be able to produce the full exchange. Lively's complaint was more narrowly focused than Baldoni's, and Baldoni's legal team made a big deal about putting it all out there. So this was somewhat inevitable, even though it will wind up getting narrowed and walked back by the magistrate judge.


Lively's team can certainly request the full contextualized versions of the text chains he cites. And they should. That is not the same as all records going back 3 years for every person on their list.


I finally actually saw the subpoenas and this isn't accurate. They aren't even asking for 2.5 years.

For the Wayfarer entities and Jennifer Abel, they ask for records dating back to Dec. 1, 2022, which was the month that Lively came on board with the production.

For Melissa Nathan and the TAG entities, they as for production dating from July, 2024, when Nathan was hired by Baldoni.

Both of those seem reasonable to me, assuming the requests will be circumscribed to excluded privileged and irrelevant communications. I would actually assume that the request would be limited to communications between the identified parties. So they wouldn't include every communication -- not records of people communicating with their spouses or their Bumble dates or their doctor's office or their kid's school. But I could see them asking for all communications between Baldoni and Heath, or between Baldoni and Abel, or between Nathan and Baldoni, during those time periods. The Nathan/TAG request is particularly relevant.

The wild card is that they ask for records for Jed Wallace dating back to December 2022. This part looks like a "fishing expedition" to me and I think reflects the degree to which they truly do not know when Wallace came on board or exactly how he's involved. I would expect Wallace to fight that quite hard and for Lively's team to have to show relevance. I guess we'll see what they show in their amended complaint. Right now I don't think they have anywhere close to enough to ask for that from Wallace.


Oh that's not that extreme at. I thought Justin's lawyer said they wanted every single text message and email?

Question wouldn't Jeb have to answer when officially got involved with the case? Then they can tailor his request better. We know he was hired for Justin so he can't lie to try and get out of pf it right? I guess he could lie lol but it wouldn't work


They did request every single text message, location. and phone call irrespective of recipient. Pp is just hypothesizing how someone might narrow it since Blake’s lawyers did not. That isn’t how discovery works.


It is though. You don't want to be going back to the court for every new little thing you want. You don't want to ask for phone records for June 14th and then find out a month later you also need them for June 10th and 11th. If you do the this way, discovery takes forever and you are very likely to miss things because of time constraints. Initial discovery requests are always broad, with the understanding they will be scaled back because the other side will argue to narrow the timeline, declare certain things privileged, request to have other things reviewed for privilege and relevancy, etc. You start broad and vague and then narrow because that gets you the maximum amount. Whereas starting narrow makes it very likely you'll miss something important.

This request was broader than most, but I can see them making the argument that because Baldoni's side has introduced a ton of communications from throughout this period, they needed to be more maximal. Again, it will be pulled back no matter what so there's not a ton of harm in going very broad with your first stab.

The main irregularity here is that they filed this subpoena prior to even filing their amended complaint or before any responses are filed. Might have to do with the MTDs coming up, I don't know. The timing was a little odd to me. The request itself is very broad but doesn't strike me as that weird given how discovery in a case is likely to work.


I am not really interested in trying to convince someone who is clearly not a lawyer why their crackpot theories make no sense. This will be yet another motion that Lively will be on the losing side of, and the judge will be once again be angry with her side. Multiple posters have already explained this. At some point, perhaps you will learn repeating the same thing multiple times doesn’t make it more persuasive. Another tell that you aren’t a litigator.
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Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.


You and the other mommy defender watched that video and that’s your conclusion? Uh, cool!


DP and didn't watch the video at all because literally who cares about his mom. That's not at all what makes this so interesting.


+1, I'm not running around watching random videos of Ryan Reynold's mom because I don't really care. I think it's weird anyone does.


It’s a video of Ryan and his mom and Atlas promoting IEWU and is relevant to show that RR and his wife did in fact try to take over the movie.


Exactly. Lively’s defenders here are stupid or dishohest - pick a struggle, those are the options, and it’s a fair observation. I described how it was relevant to BL and RR’s grabbing the marketing reins when I posted.

I’ve read some speculation about another element of the production - that Lively malingered to control the rhythm of production. She is a mom of 4, but she was hired to do a job on a specific schedule. She has her crackhead MIL available along with a husband and effectively limitless money for nannies and caregivers and private nursing. Did SHE have, can SHE produce documentation of 4 bouts of strep and one of flu during this relatively short period of time? Because she is in the rare position of having a wealth of options to care for sick kids. Or was she fqn with the production in that way, too, to destabilize everything, and grease the slide to taking over more of IEWU?


Not being interested in RR's mom doesn't make someone a Blake supporter. I literally just don't care and don't want to read a bunch of insults about some old woman who isn't an actor. It's distasteful.


+1, the comments about her were way over the line. I personally think the comments about Lively's appearance and sexual history are also really inappropriate -- it's not relevant and just makes you sound like you hate women.

You can be skeptical of Lively's claims or concerned about how Lively and Reynolds conducted themselves without saying hateful, misogynist things.
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Why would she settle this early in the lawsuit? She has nothing to lose and will contuine.


Of course she has more things to lose, starting with even more damage to her reputation.


The damage is already done. She has her talent agency standing behind her so she has nothing to lose. She will fight and settle only think about settling sometime next year before the trial.


Yeah, this entire thread is living in a bubble. Most people don't read DCUM, or follow reddit entertainment threads. My 16 year old has never heard of Blake Lively or Justin (/Jason) Baldoni. Deadpool, yes. If Lively's having trouble getting work, that's another thing, but she has a project coming out, while Baldoni's projects seems to be on hold. She can always stay at home for a while and work on collaborating on projects if she wants I guess.


Yup it's definitely more of a chronically internet thing right now. My younger kids don't care and daughter (18) still like Blake and gossip girl. Blake can and should fight as much as she can until next year. I don't really understand the she needs to settle comments
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