Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:Blake Lively’s sister was also in the film. This entire film was such a sh!tshow of nepotism.


Baldoni's wife played Lively's character OB-GYN.
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XmJg3SEa8&t=165s&pp=2AGlAZACAQ%3D%3D

Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?
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I don't think Lively will get everything, but Baldoni has very much opened himself up to broad discovery by including so many texts and emails in his complaint. This is how litigation works. Once one side has introduced exchanges like that as relevant, you have to be able to produce the full exchange. Lively's complaint was more narrowly focused than Baldoni's, and Baldoni's legal team made a big deal about putting it all out there. So this was somewhat inevitable, even though it will wind up getting narrowed and walked back by the magistrate judge.


Lively's team can certainly request the full contextualized versions of the text chains he cites. And they should. That is not the same as all records going back 3 years for every person on their list.


I finally actually saw the subpoenas and this isn't accurate. They aren't even asking for 2.5 years.

For the Wayfarer entities and Jennifer Abel, they ask for records dating back to Dec. 1, 2022, which was the month that Lively came on board with the production.

For Melissa Nathan and the TAG entities, they as for production dating from July, 2024, when Nathan was hired by Baldoni.

Both of those seem reasonable to me, assuming the requests will be circumscribed to excluded privileged and irrelevant communications. I would actually assume that the request would be limited to communications between the identified parties. So they wouldn't include every communication -- not records of people communicating with their spouses or their Bumble dates or their doctor's office or their kid's school. But I could see them asking for all communications between Baldoni and Heath, or between Baldoni and Abel, or between Nathan and Baldoni, during those time periods. The Nathan/TAG request is particularly relevant.

The wild card is that they ask for records for Jed Wallace dating back to December 2022. This part looks like a "fishing expedition" to me and I think reflects the degree to which they truly do not know when Wallace came on board or exactly how he's involved. I would expect Wallace to fight that quite hard and for Lively's team to have to show relevance. I guess we'll see what they show in their amended complaint. Right now I don't think they have anywhere close to enough to ask for that from Wallace.


Ok, 2.5 vs 3 years, you got me, but that doesn't go to the substance of what I said.

The bolded part, a litigator can clarify, but that's not how it's supposed to work. The one issuing the subpoena is supposed to identify relevant, nonprivileged material they are requesting, not request everything (and how are Verizon, et al, supposed to know what is relevant or privileged?).

If they wanted " all communications between Baldoni and Heath, or between Baldoni and Abel, or between Nathan and Baldoni, during those time periods" that's fine and I would support that, but they should have asked for that.


I don't think we are disagreeing. I agree the subpoenas are over broad.

Usually discovery requests like this get adjudicated by a magistrate judge. I would assume they will be circumscribed in the way I described above. I don't think Lively is getting ALL their communications, and I don't think Lively's team thinks they are getting that. Her lawyers aren't rubes. I assume they've framed it broadly and vaguely knowing it can only be walked back, not expanded. So they start with a big net knowing it will be chipped away at.

My main point was that it's not 3 years or even 2.5, which I've seen reported a lot of places. It's only a little over 2 years for some of the parties and the date is linked to the date Lively agreed to join the production. And for the Nathan/TAG entities it's much shorter than that, only to July 2024, when they were hired.

When I first read reports of the subpoenas they sounded insane to me but now I get what they are going for and understand the strategy at least.


PP. Respectfully no, I do not agree, they should have started with relevant requests, narrowed to communications with specific people at specific times. Their request is outrageous IMO.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake Lively’s sister was also in the film. This entire film was such a sh!tshow of nepotism.


Baldoni's wife played Lively's character OB-GYN.

Like I said, it was a sh!tshow of nepotism. I am no JB fan but he is innocent of SH.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake Lively’s sister was also in the film. This entire film was such a sh!tshow of nepotism.


Baldoni's wife played Lively's character OB-GYN.


What? His actor friend played the OBGYN.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake Lively’s sister was also in the film. This entire film was such a sh!tshow of nepotism.


Baldoni's wife played Lively's character OB-GYN.


What? His actor friend played the OBGYN.


His wife played an ultrasound tech.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake Lively’s sister was also in the film. This entire film was such a sh!tshow of nepotism.


Baldoni's wife played Lively's character OB-GYN.


What? His actor friend played the OBGYN.


His wife played an ultrasound tech.


I did not realize this!!
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XmJg3SEa8&t=165s&pp=2AGlAZACAQ%3D%3D

Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XmJg3SEa8&t=165s&pp=2AGlAZACAQ%3D%3D

Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.


Whoever is going off on the parents isn’t going to listen to reason. They’re just not all there.
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Anonymous wrote:BL needs to settle - the comments all over social media are slaughtering her. She went too far.


Why would she settle this early in the lawsuit? She has nothing to lose and will contuine.


Of course she has more things to lose, starting with even more damage to her reputation.


The damage is already done. She has her talent agency standing behind her so she has nothing to lose. She will fight and settle only think about settling sometime next year before the trial.
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I don't think Lively will get everything, but Baldoni has very much opened himself up to broad discovery by including so many texts and emails in his complaint. This is how litigation works. Once one side has introduced exchanges like that as relevant, you have to be able to produce the full exchange. Lively's complaint was more narrowly focused than Baldoni's, and Baldoni's legal team made a big deal about putting it all out there. So this was somewhat inevitable, even though it will wind up getting narrowed and walked back by the magistrate judge.


Lively's team can certainly request the full contextualized versions of the text chains he cites. And they should. That is not the same as all records going back 3 years for every person on their list.


I finally actually saw the subpoenas and this isn't accurate. They aren't even asking for 2.5 years.

For the Wayfarer entities and Jennifer Abel, they ask for records dating back to Dec. 1, 2022, which was the month that Lively came on board with the production.

For Melissa Nathan and the TAG entities, they as for production dating from July, 2024, when Nathan was hired by Baldoni.

Both of those seem reasonable to me, assuming the requests will be circumscribed to excluded privileged and irrelevant communications. I would actually assume that the request would be limited to communications between the identified parties. So they wouldn't include every communication -- not records of people communicating with their spouses or their Bumble dates or their doctor's office or their kid's school. But I could see them asking for all communications between Baldoni and Heath, or between Baldoni and Abel, or between Nathan and Baldoni, during those time periods. The Nathan/TAG request is particularly relevant.

The wild card is that they ask for records for Jed Wallace dating back to December 2022. This part looks like a "fishing expedition" to me and I think reflects the degree to which they truly do not know when Wallace came on board or exactly how he's involved. I would expect Wallace to fight that quite hard and for Lively's team to have to show relevance. I guess we'll see what they show in their amended complaint. Right now I don't think they have anywhere close to enough to ask for that from Wallace.


Oh that's not that extreme at. I thought Justin's lawyer said they wanted every single text message and email?

Question wouldn't Jeb have to answer when officially got involved with the case? Then they can tailor his request better. We know he was hired for Justin so he can't lie to try and get out of pf it right? I guess he could lie lol but it wouldn't work
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Anonymous wrote:Blake Lively’s sister was also in the film. This entire film was such a sh!tshow of nepotism.


Baldoni's wife played Lively's character OB-GYN.


What? His actor friend played the OBGYN.


His wife played an ultrasound tech.


She's technically credited as a doctor, but yeah she does the ultrasound and tells Lively's character that she's having a girl. It's a more featured role than the guy who "delivers" the baby, who doesn't have lines and isn't really featured -- he's like set dressing.
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XmJg3SEa8&t=165s&pp=2AGlAZACAQ%3D%3D

Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.


You and the other mommy defender watched that video and that’s your conclusion? Uh, cool!
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XmJg3SEa8&t=165s&pp=2AGlAZACAQ%3D%3D

Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.


You and the other mommy defender watched that video and that’s your conclusion? Uh, cool!


DP and didn't watch the video at all because literally who cares about his mom. That's not at all what makes this so interesting.
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XmJg3SEa8&t=165s&pp=2AGlAZACAQ%3D%3D

Interviews/promo for the movie where the dork playing Atlas yuks it up with Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds’s absolute insane mom, and Hugh Jackman.

Everyone not yet convinced that BL and her vile husband worked together to thieve this film from Baldoni, give the above a watch.


Ryan is the ring leader, of course. He has been a ruthless striver his entire life.

Along with his Mommie Dearest


Gross, I didn’t know about his mom.

Blake Lively said the reason she’s married to Ryan Reynolds is so she can be friends with his mom. She then goes on to elaborate how important ‘female friendships’ are. They are a bunch of grifters. And besides who wants to be friends with their MIL?


I am confused as to why wanting to be friends with your MIL is a bad thing. That sounds like a positive family dynamic.

Also didn't Ryan Reynold's dad have Parkinson's for like 30 years and hasn't he and his mom been very public about raising money/awareness regarding the disease and also talking about families of Parkinson's patients need support because it can be so hard? It sounds like his mom wound up raising four kids while also caretaking for her husband for decades.

It's weird to go after his family given that history.

The entire family on both sides, BL and RR’s, seems to be dance moms or something. Just grifting attention seekers. Why is RR’s mom interviewing anyone?


RR’s mom has the worst eye job I’ve ever seen, and she seemed legitimately crazy or (and this would be better), on medication or drunk.
Crazy crazy crazy.


Again, it is well known she raised four kids mostly on her own while caretaking for her husband, who had a degenerative disease for 3 decades before he passed. And you are here yelling about how her face looks and accusing her of being on drugs or drunk because she was... enthusiastic in public once?

If you are at the point where you are taking aim at Ryan Reynolds mom, who by all accounts is a nice woman who has not had the easiest time of it, then you've really lost the plot.


You and the other mommy defender watched that video and that’s your conclusion? Uh, cool!


DP and didn't watch the video at all because literally who cares about his mom. That's not at all what makes this so interesting.


+1, I'm not running around watching random videos of Ryan Reynold's mom because I don't really care. I think it's weird anyone does.
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