Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:Getting blown out game after game doesn't do anything for development. Obviously they couldn't compete at that level which means they couldn't do anything on the field to get better. They should have just played in a lower EDP division.

The decision to play up a division ultimately took a devastating emotional toll on the players, overshadowing BM’s well-meaning intentions to accelerate their growth. While the team started the season with strong morale and fought hard in early, competitive losses, the relentless pressure of facing elite opponents systematically broke their spirit. Several heavy defeats stripped the players of their natural swagger and honestly it was hard to watch. They just had another scrimmage vs the 2015 top team again and their remaining confidence completely collapsed into capitulation as the goals mounted. Though BM’s experiment came from a place of deep care, it resulted in a painful lesson. Their spark has been extinguished. With Super Copa on the horizon, I pray they can reignite it and turn it around with a great showing. Next year I hope they will return to their actual age group. I believe this is a vital step to heal their morale, rebuild their broken confidence, and get their swag back.

I'm the op. I would also like to add that I am not saying these girls aren't talented. It's just hard to play against bigger/faster kids who have been playing 9v9 already. There's only so much you can do.

Clearly I am an outlier. Not once did my kid come home crying after these losses. Disappointed - yes; but by no means devastated. In her mind, they are the underdogs in every game that they played up in the top bracket, so there was no expectation to win, but at least keep it competitive. And they did keep it competitive in a few of the early games (2-1; 2-1; 1-1) Not every game was a blow out! After the losses during the EDP league games, they had a good showing at the SAC tournament (Memorial Day weekend), beating a team that they lost to during the season, and then losing in the finals on penalties (to another team that they lost to convincingly during the season). To me, that showed some growth (silver lining!!!!!)

Do I agree with them playing in the top bracket a year up - NO! (IMO, they should have played a division down, at least)
Do I agree with some of his game decisions - NO!
Were they competitive in all games - NO!
Did they get game experience playing against faster/more competitive teams-YES!
Is there less of a spark in the girls - YES!
Was it productive? - Depends! (Some may say yes, some may say no)

I truly feel for the girls that have suffered during this experience (clearly I was not paying attention).

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Is the same poster commenting on their own post making it seem like someone else? YES!

I can assure you, it is not!!!! This is when I wish these discussion boards allow you to be anonymous with individual "fake names" so that there is some credibility to these discussions, so others can see it is not the same person commenting on their own post etc . Until then, we will believe what we will.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting blown out game after game doesn't do anything for development. Obviously they couldn't compete at that level which means they couldn't do anything on the field to get better. They should have just played in a lower EDP division.

The decision to play up a division ultimately took a devastating emotional toll on the players, overshadowing BM’s well-meaning intentions to accelerate their growth. While the team started the season with strong morale and fought hard in early, competitive losses, the relentless pressure of facing elite opponents systematically broke their spirit. Several heavy defeats stripped the players of their natural swagger and honestly it was hard to watch. They just had another scrimmage vs the 2015 top team again and their remaining confidence completely collapsed into capitulation as the goals mounted. Though BM’s experiment came from a place of deep care, it resulted in a painful lesson. Their spark has been extinguished. With Super Copa on the horizon, I pray they can reignite it and turn it around with a great showing. Next year I hope they will return to their actual age group. I believe this is a vital step to heal their morale, rebuild their broken confidence, and get their swag back.

I'm the op. I would also like to add that I am not saying these girls aren't talented. It's just hard to play against bigger/faster kids who have been playing 9v9 already. There's only so much you can do.

Clearly I am an outlier. Not once did my kid come home crying after these losses. Disappointed - yes; but by no means devastated. In her mind, they are the underdogs in every game that they played up in the top bracket, so there was no expectation to win, but at least keep it competitive. And they did keep it competitive in a few of the early games (2-1; 2-1; 1-1) Not every game was a blow out! After the losses during the EDP league games, they had a good showing at the SAC tournament (Memorial Day weekend), beating a team that they lost to during the season, and then losing in the finals on penalties (to another team that they lost to convincingly during the season). To me, that showed some growth (silver lining!!!!!)

Do I agree with them playing in the top bracket a year up - NO! (IMO, they should have played a division down, at least)
Do I agree with some of his game decisions - NO!
Were they competitive in all games - NO!
Did they get game experience playing against faster/more competitive teams-YES!
Is there less of a spark in the girls - YES!
Was it productive? - Depends! (Some may say yes, some may say no)

I truly feel for the girls that have suffered during this experience (clearly I was not paying attention).

🎯

Is the same poster commenting on their own post making it seem like someone else? YES!

I can assure you, it is not!!!! This is when I wish these discussion boards allow you to be anonymous with individual "fake names" so that there is some credibility to these discussions, so others can see it is not the same person commenting on their own post etc . Until then, we will believe what we will.

Interesting this is what many FB groups have evolved to. Gives a good mix of participation with anonymity, but less sock puppetting

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Anonymous wrote:“Mass Exodus” yet the spots stay filled.

jokes on the haters. The earth is flat and Bethesda is in a state of perpetuity. Definitely not going down.

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Anonymous wrote:I wrote this before and will repeat. The biggest issue isn’t the poor decisions of individual coaches, or the abuse of other coaches. The biggest issue with BSC is that NO ONE CARES. There is NO recourse when something goes wrong. You can’t contact the executive team, there is no working office number, the board members are friends of the executives. When something is really wrong, there is nowhere to turn. Cannot wait to get out.

This is true. It is a good ol boys club where the executive director, board, coaches, are all bros and protect each other. They drove out some excellent female coaches (such as SH-C) and the ones remaining have little-to-no say in operations at all. They hire family and friends without caring about their checkered pasts (SC can't coach in NJ anymore? No problem, come to BSC), give inappropriate roster spots to the children of friends and coaches, and are heavily influenced by wealthy and connected families within the club. While every dedicated player will train outside of their club, the BSC practices are truly useless for most age groups and will not assist in development at all. The club feedback surveys are never read and result in zero changes. BSC relies on its monopoly in the area and the marketing of ECNL. The ONE promising thing to take from recent posts in this thread is that families of really talented MoCo kids have realized their power and that the club isn't needed to reach their kids' goals. Never seen a mass exodus like the one that happened after this year's tryouts (yeah there's an age change blah blah, trust me that had minimal impact for most teams). But yes OP, you are 100% correct that there's no accountability for anyone at this club.

You are both 100% correct, though there are a few good, dedicated coaches still at BSC.

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The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

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Anonymous wrote:The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

Yea what are they thinking. Obviously parents know better than them…

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Anonymous wrote:The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

Yea what are they thinking. Obviously parents know better than them…

Ummmm wow so you are saying that BSC shouldn’t listen to parent concerns and as parents you should just let coaches do what they want with your kids development. That stupid a$$ club works for us moron. You must be a dumba$$ BSC coach or admin, or just a dumba$$ parent. I feel sorry for your child; hopefully you have just the one. Poor kid. Hopefully in the divorce your spouse gets them cause clearly you are a douche and that is gonna catch up to you.

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Anonymous wrote:The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

Yea what are they thinking. Obviously parents know better than them…

Ummmm wow so you are saying that BSC shouldn’t listen to parent concerns and as parents you should just let coaches do what they want with your kids development. That stupid a$$ club works for us moron. You must be a dumba$$ BSC coach or admin, or just a dumba$$ parent. I feel sorry for your child; hopefully you have just the one. Poor kid. Hopefully in the divorce your spouse gets them cause clearly you are a douche and that is gonna catch up to you.

Woah that escalated quickly.
But you have a point about the douche.

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Anonymous wrote:The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

Yea what are they thinking. Obviously parents know better than them…

Ummmm wow so you are saying that BSC shouldn’t listen to parent concerns and as parents you should just let coaches do what they want with your kids development. That stupid a$$ club works for us moron. You must be a dumba$$ BSC coach or admin, or just a dumba$$ parent. I feel sorry for your child; hopefully you have just the one. Poor kid. Hopefully in the divorce your spouse gets them cause clearly you are a douche and that is gonna catch up to you.

For every good coach in this area, there are 5 behind them who are basically gym teachers with no clue what they’re doing with young people except to come on DCUM and make you feel dumb for not bowing to their combined excellence in soccer and development psychology.

Yeah, most of us parents are clueless about whether kids should be playing not just kids who are bigger and faster, but in divisions where they are far and away more technically sound. We’re all idiots for not telling our 10yos to just toughen up.

Or we just tell them, listen adults are idiots too sometimes, have as much fun as you can and we’ll get you the hell away from these morons at the end of the season. Glad to see MANY folks have done so across “good” clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

Yea what are they thinking. Obviously parents know better than them…

Ummmm wow so you are saying that BSC shouldn’t listen to parent concerns and as parents you should just let coaches do what they want with your kids development. That stupid a$$ club works for us moron. You must be a dumba$$ BSC coach or admin, or just a dumba$$ parent. I feel sorry for your child; hopefully you have just the one. Poor kid. Hopefully in the divorce your spouse gets them cause clearly you are a douche and that is gonna catch up to you.

Triggered. My goodness, soft as Charmin over there. No wonder you got emotional and quit.

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Anonymous wrote:The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

Yea what are they thinking. Obviously parents know better than them…

Ummmm wow so you are saying that BSC shouldn’t listen to parent concerns and as parents you should just let coaches do what they want with your kids development. That stupid a$$ club works for us moron. You must be a dumba$$ BSC coach or admin, or just a dumba$$ parent. I feel sorry for your child; hopefully you have just the one. Poor kid. Hopefully in the divorce your spouse gets them cause clearly you are a douche and that is gonna catch up to you.

Triggered. My goodness, soft as Charmin over there. No wonder you got emotional and quit.

Triggered or not, dude’s got a point.

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Anonymous wrote:The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

Are you suggesting the "other" team in that division players left because the club doesn't listen to them or because the coach didn't?

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Anonymous wrote:The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

Yea what are they thinking. Obviously parents know better than them…

Ummmm wow so you are saying that BSC shouldn’t listen to parent concerns and as parents you should just let coaches do what they want with your kids development. That stupid a$$ club works for us moron. You must be a dumba$$ BSC coach or admin, or just a dumba$$ parent. I feel sorry for your child; hopefully you have just the one. Poor kid. Hopefully in the divorce your spouse gets them cause clearly you are a douche and that is gonna catch up to you.

Triggered. My goodness, soft as Charmin over there. No wonder you got emotional and quit.

Triggered or not, dude’s got a point.

Does he though? The club is still very successful and until something changes, the club that provides the best competition in MoCo.

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Anonymous wrote:The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

Yea what are they thinking. Obviously parents know better than them…

Ummmm wow so you are saying that BSC shouldn’t listen to parent concerns and as parents you should just let coaches do what they want with your kids development. That stupid a$$ club works for us moron. You must be a dumba$$ BSC coach or admin, or just a dumba$$ parent. I feel sorry for your child; hopefully you have just the one. Poor kid. Hopefully in the divorce your spouse gets them cause clearly you are a douche and that is gonna catch up to you.

Triggered. My goodness, soft as Charmin over there. No wonder you got emotional and quit.

Triggered or not, dude’s got a point.

Does he though? The club is still very successful and until something changes, the club that provides the best competition in MoCo.

yeah he still has a point if you bothered to actually read what they wrote. soccer clubs get paid by the parents, and if the parents have concerns, they should have a venue to bring those concerns up. parent concerns shouldn't be dismissed. club is still successful? no one in texas or california has heard of this program buddy. their "success" don't mean shit.

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Anonymous wrote:The “other” team in that division is also having a bit of a bloodletting of players for the exact same reason.

Just a colossally dumb move by these clubs with otherwise talented teams, and they are rightfully paying for the hubris of ignoring parent input thinking they know best.

Yea what are they thinking. Obviously parents know better than them…

Ummmm wow so you are saying that BSC shouldn’t listen to parent concerns and as parents you should just let coaches do what they want with your kids development. That stupid a$$ club works for us moron. You must be a dumba$$ BSC coach or admin, or just a dumba$$ parent. I feel sorry for your child; hopefully you have just the one. Poor kid. Hopefully in the divorce your spouse gets them cause clearly you are a douche and that is gonna catch up to you.

Triggered. My goodness, soft as Charmin over there. No wonder you got emotional and quit.

Triggered or not, dude’s got a point.

Does he though? The club is still very successful and until something changes, the club that provides the best competition in MoCo.

yeah he still has a point if you bothered to actually read what they wrote. soccer clubs get paid by the parents, and if the parents have concerns, they should have a venue to bring those concerns up. parent concerns shouldn't be dismissed. club is still successful? no one in texas or california has heard of this program buddy. their "success" don't mean shit.

Rightttt so let me break it down for you.

They are successful because parents will continue to pay them. They have a monopoly in this area. So eventually you will open your eyes and see that you running away means another spot is taken from another player. It’s not what you want to hear but it’s the reality. Im not saying they shouldn’t have parent feedback but thinking parents know better for the soccer club is ridiculous. Why would they change their successful formula?