BOE - who are people voting for?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's hilarious that Esther and her crowd of morons are voting to keep Evans in, even after bemoaning how terrible the board is over and over. All they do is whine and yet...they vote for the same.

I also didn't like having her approach me about how to vote. She's not well spoken. I'd actually be upset if she was campaigning on my behalf. She's definitely not the person to sell you on a candidate.

If being well spoken was a must-have in order to ask people to vote one way or another, Laura Stewart would have dropped out of the race a long time ago.

Agree. I was looking for someone other than Evans, but after seeing Stewart in person and talking with her, I was not impressed enough to vote for her against Evans.

Evans is behind many of the issues MCPS is having and she may present well on the surface but look deeper.

I don't think Evans has done anything useful in 8 years of board meetings. She never asks questions, she never presses for more information. She just says thanks for coming.

This. Stewart, as an advocate with limited time allocated for testimony at board meetings, has provided more for the students and families of the county during those years than Evans has with the privilege of sitting on the BOE, itself.

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Brenda Diaz spoke Moms for Liberty event is endorsed by the Maryland GOP, and was specifically NOT endorsed by the Maryland State Educators Association, the organization representing Maryland public school teachers

We don't want union-endorsed candidates. We want people that will look out for what's best for kids.

Well we don’t want Nazi loving Christian nationalists on BOE for public school who Denys science and history.
We don’t want book banners who support Stephen Millers hate
We don’t want a person who could not be bothered to show up for her job!

Moderately MOCO put on two forums that Diaz was present for not only were her answers nonsense literally incoherent her treatment of others was unacceptable. We need people who work together not people who bring hate and aggression instead of trying to problem solve.

But Diaz's bad ideas have no chance of getting past the other BoE members, whereas Zimmerman's might. As a result, Zimmerman has more potential to do damage.

No Diaz not only supports RFk Jr and Stephen Miller her ideas about curriculum are horrifying.

Diaz is ultra right wing hate.

Have you heard her speak? It’s literally garbage hate and stupidity,

Not to mention her tenure at Gaithersburg HS was abysmal. Nothing from that job gives her any credibility to be on a BOE much less any employee anywhere . Who the hell dies not show up for their job for months? They way she talked about her students of color and minorities no.

The primary thing I consider when deciding who to vote for is the impact each candidate would have if elected.

Diaz is sufficiently fringe that she won't have much of an impact. No other board member or candidate will support the things on her agenda.

That obviously isn't good, but Zimmerman is far worse. Some of the things she wants may be able to get through the BoE, particularly if the other MCEA candidates win.

I'm not so much voting for Diaz as much as I am voting against Zimmerman and the MCEA.

I love how you are trying to sound so educated and thoughtful about your voting process but you just come off sounding like a total moron.

Which Board members or candidates would vote with Diaz on the issues you're worried about?

DP. Diaz would gum up the works. BOE members, with their paltry stipend requiring them to have alternate means of income/financial support, barely have the time to review what MCPS puts in front of them, much less extend the time of meetings to hold contentious but unproductive discussion.

Maybe if we paid them the equivalent of full time-plus professionals with the analytical capability, understanding of policy and experience we'd want representing us, there would be the time to cover such while getting the work done. Diaz's support comes from the opposite end of the political spectrum from that which would support that kind of pay for elected reps.

What are the specific issues that Zimmerman promotes about which there would be concern of their passage by the BOE?

MCEA was responsibile for failing to reopen schools for 18 months. They were also behind the decision to do a worthless virtual day instead of using one of the makeup snow days built into the calendar. And they fought against an incentives package intended to recruit special educators. They've also lobbied to add more half-days to the school calendar. All those were terrible, and are far more likely than anything in Diaz's agenda.

So if you are so appalled by anyone MCEA endorses, you must be voting for Diaz, Harris, and Evans? Two incumbents who probably voted for all those other things you hate? You really make no sense.

If you're only willing to vote for candidates that always vote your way then you've got to be very disappointed with politics.

Are there people who aren't disappointed with politics?

Then it shouldn't be a surprise that we sometimes have to vote between the lesser of two evils. That's Diaz in this case.

Zimmerman isn't anywhere close to evil.

That's a saying. No, Zimmerman isn't evil, but her election to the board would do more harm to kids. Diaz is no saint, but she's harmless on the board.

Diaz is NOT harmless.

She is. What do you think she's going to do on the Board?

Waste time ranting and raving, but she could do a lot of harm with the Moms for Liberty crazies.

Who is going to vote for whatever you're worried about from her? It takes a majority.

DP. Here's my plan: keep Diaz off the board by voting for Zimmerman. Why? Because if Diaz is not on the Board, then we don't have to worry about the "Moms for Liberty" crazy stuff Diaz might do if she were on the Board.

But you do have to worry about the crazy stuff MCEA might do if they get a majority on the board.

No I don’t have to worry about that because it literally is not possible

It absolutely is. That's what the apple ballot and MCEA's political action committee are all about.

You can never go wrong voting Apple ballot.

I do find it to be a useful resource identifying who I should typically vote against. Particularly this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Voted for Brenda!

I did too, but I'm not delusional. She's obviously going to lose and we're going to end up with a worse board than we started with. Voters in primaries really need to think harder about who they're voting for.

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First batch of results coming in now. All three Apple Ballot candidates currently leading.

Montoya up 52-47
Zimmerman up 57-42
Stewart up 57-42

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Anonymous wrote:First batch of results coming in now. All three Apple Ballot candidates currently leading.

Montoya up 52-47
Zimmerman up 57-42
Stewart up 57-42

NIce, where do you see this?

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MoCo results here:

https://results.elections.maryland.gov/elections/2024/General_Results/gen_results_2024_by_county_16.html

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Anonymous wrote:MoCo results here:

https://results.elections.maryland.gov/elections/2024/General_Results/gen_results_2024_by_county_16.html

Thank you. This is wonderful.

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Anonymous wrote:MoCo results here:

https://results.elections.maryland.gov/elections/2024/General_Results/gen_results_2024_by_county_16.html

Thank you. This is wonderful.

LOL
Nothing will change. It is just new Apples.

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Anonymous wrote:MoCo results here:

https://results.elections.maryland.gov/elections/2024/General_Results/gen_results_2024_by_county_16.html

Thank you. This is wonderful.

Maybe if you're a teacher. Not if you're a student or a parent.


Things are gearing up for the worst possible combination of winners at the local and federal levels.

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Anonymous wrote:MoCo results here:

https://results.elections.maryland.gov/elections/2024/General_Results/gen_results_2024_by_county_16.html

Thank you. This is wonderful.

Maybe if you're a teacher. Not if you're a student or a parent.


Things are gearing up for the worst possible combination of winners at the local and federal levels.

I’m a parent. Diaz is a hot mess. Evan’s and Harris need to go.

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Anonymous wrote:MoCo results here:

https://results.elections.maryland.gov/elections/2024/General_Results/gen_results_2024_by_county_16.html

Thank you. This is wonderful.

Maybe if you're a teacher. Not if you're a student or a parent.


Things are gearing up for the worst possible combination of winners at the local and federal levels.

I’m a parent. Diaz is a hot mess. Evan’s and Harris need to go.

Except we're replacing them with people that are even worse.

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Anonymous wrote:MoCo results here:

https://results.elections.maryland.gov/elections/2024/General_Results/gen_results_2024_by_county_16.html

Thank you. This is wonderful.

Maybe if you're a teacher. Not if you're a student or a parent.


Things are gearing up for the worst possible combination of winners at the local and federal levels.

I’m a parent. Diaz is a hot mess. Evan’s and Harris need to go.

Except we're replacing them with people that are even worse.

Hopefully not.

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Anonymous wrote:MoCo results here:

https://results.elections.maryland.gov/elections/2024/General_Results/gen_results_2024_by_county_16.html

Thank you. This is wonderful.

Maybe if you're a teacher. Not if you're a student or a parent.


Things are gearing up for the worst possible combination of winners at the local and federal levels.

I’m a parent. Diaz is a hot mess. Evan’s and Harris need to go.

Except we're replacing them with people that are even worse.

Hopefully not.

The results were a foregone conclusion because voters are clearly idiots. We apparently deserve the worst timeline.

[Anonymous]

It’s a clean slate. Apple Ballot rules the MCPS BOE.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a clean slate. Apple Ballot rules the MCPS BOE.

The incumbents lost, but I wouldn't call this a clean slate.