FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea roughly what % of Carson goes to each of the 4 high schools? With the new <25% guideline on split feeders, let’s see which are the likely high schools which will be most impacted.

I am pretty sure Carson's boundaries only split to three high schools-- Oakton, Westfield, and South Lakes. I am guessing it's approximately 33% of each, but that's based on a visual estimate based on looking at boundary maps, so it's not scientific at all.

The students who go to Chantilly are actually from the Franklin district, but they chose Carson for AAP.

Yes only three way split for non AAP.

Elementary schools for Carson non AAP are Coates, McNair, Floris, Fox Mill and Crossfield.

Only Crossfield kids go to Oakton. (so roughly 20% or less)

Only Fox Mill and a small pocket of Floris kids go to SLHS (roughly 25% or less).

Carson non AAP is more or less Westfield feeder. It’s just it’s AAP is huge and many AAP kids go to Chantilly or Oakton.

So maybe the better solution is to send Crossfield kids to Franklin so they can be with other Oakton kids and if the AAP parents want their kid to go to Carson then fine, that's like 10-15 kids a year.

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There's absolutely no reason that 273 students should be transferred from Franklin to Carson because of AAP and then another 29 from Franklin to Rocky Run. It sounds to me that with those 300+ students, Franklin absolutely should have its own dedicated AAP program.

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea roughly what % of Carson goes to each of the 4 high schools? With the new <25% guideline on split feeders, let’s see which are the likely high schools which will be most impacted.

I am pretty sure Carson's boundaries only split to three high schools-- Oakton, Westfield, and South Lakes. I am guessing it's approximately 33% of each, but that's based on a visual estimate based on looking at boundary maps, so it's not scientific at all.

The students who go to Chantilly are actually from the Franklin district, but they chose Carson for AAP.

Yes only three way split for non AAP.

Elementary schools for Carson non AAP are Coates, McNair, Floris, Fox Mill and Crossfield.

Only Crossfield kids go to Oakton. (so roughly 20% or less)

Only Fox Mill and a small pocket of Floris kids go to SLHS (roughly 25% or less).

Carson non AAP is more or less Westfield feeder. It’s just it’s AAP is huge and many AAP kids go to Chantilly or Oakton.

My neighborhood is currently in the Oak Hill, Carson, Westfield district.

My sister's neighborhood is Crossfield, Carson, Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah — looking at the numbers — Carson will be the toughest split feeder to fix.

Franklin and Chantilly fix is possible if kids return to their base school. That may be an easier pill to digest given both schools are excellent in their own right.

Also the TJ 1.5% change, increases the appeal of Franklin MS as Carson is the biggest loser with the TJ admission changes.

Carson was built big. Base on it's location maybe split feed with Herndon spinning off the huge Hutchison so an AAP center fits in Herndon MS. Doing anything is always a problem with IB at South Lakes. ...just waiting for FCPS to proclaim the desirability of IB based on transfers from Herndon...

Just incredible that FCPS/Thru sits BRAC by region...Marshall!!!

1 Carson oakton 273 Franklin
5 Rocky Run chantilly 239 124 Liberty+86 Stone+ 29 Franklin
4 Lake Braddock lake braddock 236 54 Robinson+31 Hayfield + 11Holmess+106 Irving =34 Key
3 Twain edison 155 88 Hayfield+ 67 Key
2 Glasgow justice 130 29 Poe+ 101 Holmes
1 Hughes south lakes 118 Herndon
3 Sandburg west potomac 101 Whitman
6 Hayfield hayfield 100 Mount Vernon massive for no AAP
2 Jackson falles church 96 Thoreau
5 Frost woodson 62 47 Poe + 15 Holmes
5 Kilmer marshall 39 Thorau
2 Longfellow mclean 14 Kilmer immersion?

There's absolutely no reason that 273 students should be transferred from Franklin to Carson because of AAP and then another 29 from Franklin to Rocky Run. It sounds to me that with those 300+ students, Franklin absolutely should have its own dedicated AAP program.

Franklin has had dedicated AAP classes for a long time--10 to 12 years. Therefore, it only makes sense to end the choice to attend a center. Move those kids back to Franklin!

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Anonymous wrote:I think connecting the timber lane island with a bit from falls hill so it’s “connected” on map is fine if it’s needed but don’t think we need to extend to 50. My kid went to timber lane. Longfellow, and now is at McLean. We are equal distant to McLean, Marshall, and Falls church but the kids by 50 are much closer to falls church.

They are doing anything to bump capacity up at Cooper and Langley to cut FHES to Herndon.

Sending kids that border Loudoun Co. to Langley is insane.

As insane as sending kids near 50 to McLean? because I looked and it adds the exact same amount of time to their commute.

Like it or not, the difference to HMS is within a couple minutes commute of Cooper and less than ten to HHS vs Langley.

Your equity obsession is showing.

They aren't proposing (yet) to send kids near Route 50 to McLean, just to Longfellow. They would leave these kids at Falls Church. Of course, that's even more bizarre, since about 95% of Longfellow goes to McLean. I guess they left them at Falls Church because they didn't want to add kids to overcrowded McLean, and maybe they even realized Falls Church is getting expanded, but all that should have also suggested leaving these kids at Jackson and maintaining the fairly even split feeder at Timber Lane.

Same analysis holds for Longfellow. The person who thinks it’s insane to send great falls to Langley surely feels the same about busing these poor kids to Longfellow, right?

I don't think that the proposed Timber Lane/Longfellow adjustment to 50 makes any sense. But if you are trying to convince me that Forestville should go anywhere other than Herndon, you'll fail. If I pick a nice central location on Seneca, it is 4 miles and less than 10 min from Herndon. It is 11 miles and 22 minutes (non-rush!) to Langley. There's simply no argument except people want to go to the rich school.

But I'm not just going to call out Forestville. Why is Westbriar the way it is, and why on earth would the western kids go to Marshall? Langley, Marshall, Madison, and McLean need to be more compact and be prepped to divide up any growth in Tysons.

You are picking the furthest point in Forestville intentionally, and it’s clear what your agenda is. The fact is that on average from Forestville you save two minutes to HMS than Cooper, and 9 to HHS from Langley. Those are rounding errors, despite you trying to convince everyone that it’s otherwise.

I already know you’ll call me an “equity warrior” but Katy Perry could have seen that FVES should go to Herndon from her little outer space jaunt.

So, who should go to Langley to replace them?

They are slowly sneaking the over-capacity McLean into Langley. The 4/11 projections are sneaky because the new capacities are WITH modulars. There should be an additional column to show new capacities WITHOUT.

CIP provides these projections and McLean for example, goes from 103% to 118% for 2030 with and then without modulars.

They will re-highlight the need to rid of modulars for the capacity studies even though parents have said it’s fine to have them.

Many of the 4/11 capacities sitting under their new limit of 105% will sky rocket - hence, Franklin Sherman moving into Langley, pushing FVES out. The other Langley ES schools have have some capacity shifts as well towards under-capacity Great Falls ES.

some parents are fine with modulars and some are not.

And sometimes, the same parents have opposite opinions on modulars depending on the conversation. Under the threat of boundary changes? Modulars are totally fine, we like modulars!
But when your school is up next on the renovation queue? Modulars are bad and a security vulnerability, the school needs to be totally renovated and expanded!

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So maybe the better solution is to send Crossfield kids to Franklin so they can be with other Oakton kids and if the AAP parents want their kid to go to Carson then fine, that's like 10-15 kids a year.

No. Send Waples Mill and Navy to Carson. A lot of those kids are already in the center.

It would be helpful to know the high school split of the AAP kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I think connecting the timber lane island with a bit from falls hill so it’s “connected” on map is fine if it’s needed but don’t think we need to extend to 50. My kid went to timber lane. Longfellow, and now is at McLean. We are equal distant to McLean, Marshall, and Falls church but the kids by 50 are much closer to falls church.

They are doing anything to bump capacity up at Cooper and Langley to cut FHES to Herndon.

Sending kids that border Loudoun Co. to Langley is insane.

As insane as sending kids near 50 to McLean? because I looked and it adds the exact same amount of time to their commute.

Like it or not, the difference to HMS is within a couple minutes commute of Cooper and less than ten to HHS vs Langley.

Your equity obsession is showing.

They aren't proposing (yet) to send kids near Route 50 to McLean, just to Longfellow. They would leave these kids at Falls Church. Of course, that's even more bizarre, since about 95% of Longfellow goes to McLean. I guess they left them at Falls Church because they didn't want to add kids to overcrowded McLean, and maybe they even realized Falls Church is getting expanded, but all that should have also suggested leaving these kids at Jackson and maintaining the fairly even split feeder at Timber Lane.

Same analysis holds for Longfellow. The person who thinks it’s insane to send great falls to Langley surely feels the same about busing these poor kids to Longfellow, right?

I don't think that the proposed Timber Lane/Longfellow adjustment to 50 makes any sense. But if you are trying to convince me that Forestville should go anywhere other than Herndon, you'll fail. If I pick a nice central location on Seneca, it is 4 miles and less than 10 min from Herndon. It is 11 miles and 22 minutes (non-rush!) to Langley. There's simply no argument except people want to go to the rich school.

But I'm not just going to call out Forestville. Why is Westbriar the way it is, and why on earth would the western kids go to Marshall? Langley, Marshall, Madison, and McLean need to be more compact and be prepped to divide up any growth in Tysons.

You are picking the furthest point in Forestville intentionally, and it’s clear what your agenda is. The fact is that on average from Forestville you save two minutes to HMS than Cooper, and 9 to HHS from Langley. Those are rounding errors, despite you trying to convince everyone that it’s otherwise.

I already know you’ll call me an “equity warrior” but Katy Perry could have seen that FVES should go to Herndon from her little outer space jaunt.

So, who should go to Langley to replace them?

They are slowly sneaking the over-capacity McLean into Langley. The 4/11 projections are sneaky because the new capacities are WITH modulars. There should be an additional column to show new capacities WITHOUT.

CIP provides these projections and McLean for example, goes from 103% to 118% for 2030 with and then without modulars.

They will re-highlight the need to rid of modulars for the capacity studies even though parents have said it’s fine to have them.

Many of the 4/11 capacities sitting under their new limit of 105% will sky rocket - hence, Franklin Sherman moving into Langley, pushing FVES out. The other Langley ES schools have have some capacity shifts as well towards under-capacity Great Falls ES.

some parents are fine with modulars and some are not.

And sometimes, the same parents have opposite opinions on modulars depending on the conversation. Under the threat of boundary changes? Modulars are totally fine, we like modulars!
But when your school is up next on the renovation queue? Modulars are bad and a security vulnerability, the school needs to be totally renovated and expanded!

Oh, give it a rest, will you? Schools have modulars because FCPS planning sucks, but families still like their schools and don't deserve for their kids to be treated like widgets.

Maybe if they were adding capacity where it was needed rather than just slapping big additions on schools merely because they are in a queue developed over 15 years ago, or are the favored schools of former School Board members, there would be fewer modulars.

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I hope all of you are showing up to School Board meetings and writing your SB members and/or Reid. Otherwise all of this is just pissing in the wind.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope all of you are showing up to School Board meetings and writing your SB members and/or Reid. Otherwise all of this is just pissing in the wind.

Go watch the SB meetings during 2008 South Lakes study. Talking to them does little good.

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Anonymous wrote:I think connecting the timber lane island with a bit from falls hill so it’s “connected” on map is fine if it’s needed but don’t think we need to extend to 50. My kid went to timber lane. Longfellow, and now is at McLean. We are equal distant to McLean, Marshall, and Falls church but the kids by 50 are much closer to falls church.

They are doing anything to bump capacity up at Cooper and Langley to cut FHES to Herndon.

Sending kids that border Loudoun Co. to Langley is insane.

As insane as sending kids near 50 to McLean? because I looked and it adds the exact same amount of time to their commute.

Like it or not, the difference to HMS is within a couple minutes commute of Cooper and less than ten to HHS vs Langley.

Your equity obsession is showing.

They aren't proposing (yet) to send kids near Route 50 to McLean, just to Longfellow. They would leave these kids at Falls Church. Of course, that's even more bizarre, since about 95% of Longfellow goes to McLean. I guess they left them at Falls Church because they didn't want to add kids to overcrowded McLean, and maybe they even realized Falls Church is getting expanded, but all that should have also suggested leaving these kids at Jackson and maintaining the fairly even split feeder at Timber Lane.

Same analysis holds for Longfellow. The person who thinks it’s insane to send great falls to Langley surely feels the same about busing these poor kids to Longfellow, right?

I don't think that the proposed Timber Lane/Longfellow adjustment to 50 makes any sense. But if you are trying to convince me that Forestville should go anywhere other than Herndon, you'll fail. If I pick a nice central location on Seneca, it is 4 miles and less than 10 min from Herndon. It is 11 miles and 22 minutes (non-rush!) to Langley. There's simply no argument except people want to go to the rich school.

But I'm not just going to call out Forestville. Why is Westbriar the way it is, and why on earth would the western kids go to Marshall? Langley, Marshall, Madison, and McLean need to be more compact and be prepped to divide up any growth in Tysons.

You are picking the furthest point in Forestville intentionally, and it’s clear what your agenda is. The fact is that on average from Forestville you save two minutes to HMS than Cooper, and 9 to HHS from Langley. Those are rounding errors, despite you trying to convince everyone that it’s otherwise.

I already know you’ll call me an “equity warrior” but Katy Perry could have seen that FVES should go to Herndon from her little outer space jaunt.

So, who should go to Langley to replace them?

They are slowly sneaking the over-capacity McLean into Langley. The 4/11 projections are sneaky because the new capacities are WITH modulars. There should be an additional column to show new capacities WITHOUT.

CIP provides these projections and McLean for example, goes from 103% to 118% for 2030 with and then without modulars.

They will re-highlight the need to rid of modulars for the capacity studies even though parents have said it’s fine to have them.

Many of the 4/11 capacities sitting under their new limit of 105% will sky rocket - hence, Franklin Sherman moving into Langley, pushing FVES out. The other Langley ES schools have have some capacity shifts as well towards under-capacity Great Falls ES.

Just pointing out that moving Franklin Sherman elementary moves a number of kids who can walk to McLean High.

Is the actual delta difference of time between McLean and Langley for these kids as it is for most Forestville kids to go to HHS instead of Langley. So much for trying to streamline transportation, though we all know it has never been about that.

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Anonymous wrote:I think connecting the timber lane island with a bit from falls hill so it’s “connected” on map is fine if it’s needed but don’t think we need to extend to 50. My kid went to timber lane. Longfellow, and now is at McLean. We are equal distant to McLean, Marshall, and Falls church but the kids by 50 are much closer to falls church.

They are doing anything to bump capacity up at Cooper and Langley to cut FHES to Herndon.

Sending kids that border Loudoun Co. to Langley is insane.

As insane as sending kids near 50 to McLean? because I looked and it adds the exact same amount of time to their commute.

Like it or not, the difference to HMS is within a couple minutes commute of Cooper and less than ten to HHS vs Langley.

Your equity obsession is showing.

They aren't proposing (yet) to send kids near Route 50 to McLean, just to Longfellow. They would leave these kids at Falls Church. Of course, that's even more bizarre, since about 95% of Longfellow goes to McLean. I guess they left them at Falls Church because they didn't want to add kids to overcrowded McLean, and maybe they even realized Falls Church is getting expanded, but all that should have also suggested leaving these kids at Jackson and maintaining the fairly even split feeder at Timber Lane.

Same analysis holds for Longfellow. The person who thinks it’s insane to send great falls to Langley surely feels the same about busing these poor kids to Longfellow, right?

I don't think that the proposed Timber Lane/Longfellow adjustment to 50 makes any sense. But if you are trying to convince me that Forestville should go anywhere other than Herndon, you'll fail. If I pick a nice central location on Seneca, it is 4 miles and less than 10 min from Herndon. It is 11 miles and 22 minutes (non-rush!) to Langley. There's simply no argument except people want to go to the rich school.

But I'm not just going to call out Forestville. Why is Westbriar the way it is, and why on earth would the western kids go to Marshall? Langley, Marshall, Madison, and McLean need to be more compact and be prepped to divide up any growth in Tysons.

You are picking the furthest point in Forestville intentionally, and it’s clear what your agenda is. The fact is that on average from Forestville you save two minutes to HMS than Cooper, and 9 to HHS from Langley. Those are rounding errors, despite you trying to convince everyone that it’s otherwise.

I already know you’ll call me an “equity warrior” but Katy Perry could have seen that FVES should go to Herndon from her little outer space jaunt.

So, who should go to Langley to replace them?

They are slowly sneaking the over-capacity McLean into Langley. The 4/11 projections are sneaky because the new capacities are WITH modulars. There should be an additional column to show new capacities WITHOUT.

CIP provides these projections and McLean for example, goes from 103% to 118% for 2030 with and then without modulars.

They will re-highlight the need to rid of modulars for the capacity studies even though parents have said it’s fine to have them.

Many of the 4/11 capacities sitting under their new limit of 105% will sky rocket - hence, Franklin Sherman moving into Langley, pushing FVES out. The other Langley ES schools have have some capacity shifts as well towards under-capacity Great Falls ES.

some parents are fine with modulars and some are not.

And sometimes, the same parents have opposite opinions on modulars depending on the conversation. Under the threat of boundary changes? Modulars are totally fine, we like modulars!
But when your school is up next on the renovation queue? Modulars are bad and a security vulnerability, the school needs to be totally renovated and expanded!

Oh, give it a rest, will you? Schools have modulars because FCPS planning sucks, but families still like their schools and don't deserve for their kids to be treated like widgets.

Maybe if they were adding capacity where it was needed rather than just slapping big additions on schools merely because they are in a queue developed over 15 years ago, or are the favored schools of former School Board members, there would be fewer modulars.

+1. It takes a real awful human to vindictively want to hurt her neighbors just because of envy.

Nobody actually wants their own kids moved. Most normal human beings are empathetic enough to realize this and not advocate to have other people’s kids moved. The remainder just want to burn down the current system MAGA style.

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So maybe the better solution is to send Crossfield kids to Franklin so they can be with other Oakton kids and if the AAP parents want their kid to go to Carson then fine, that's like 10-15 kids a year.

No. Send Waples Mill and Navy to Carson. A lot of those kids are already in the center.

It would be helpful to know the high school split of the AAP kids.

Well, roughly 300 of them go to either Oakton or Chantilly.

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So maybe the better solution is to send Crossfield kids to Franklin so they can be with other Oakton kids and if the AAP parents want their kid to go to Carson then fine, that's like 10-15 kids a year.

No. Send Waples Mill and Navy to Carson. A lot of those kids are already in the center.

It would be helpful to know the high school split of the AAP kids.

This doesn't make any sense except you think your kids will have a higher chance of getting into TJ from Carson (which they don't).

All the Oakton kids should be at one middle school, including the AAP kids - Franklin, which is closer to most of their houses anyway. All the Chantilly kids should be at Rocky Run or Franklin. All the Westfields & SLHS kids should stay at Carson.

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Anonymous wrote:I think connecting the timber lane island with a bit from falls hill so it’s “connected” on map is fine if it’s needed but don’t think we need to extend to 50. My kid went to timber lane. Longfellow, and now is at McLean. We are equal distant to McLean, Marshall, and Falls church but the kids by 50 are much closer to falls church.

They are doing anything to bump capacity up at Cooper and Langley to cut FHES to Herndon.

Sending kids that border Loudoun Co. to Langley is insane.

As insane as sending kids near 50 to McLean? because I looked and it adds the exact same amount of time to their commute.

Like it or not, the difference to HMS is within a couple minutes commute of Cooper and less than ten to HHS vs Langley.

Your equity obsession is showing.

They aren't proposing (yet) to send kids near Route 50 to McLean, just to Longfellow. They would leave these kids at Falls Church. Of course, that's even more bizarre, since about 95% of Longfellow goes to McLean. I guess they left them at Falls Church because they didn't want to add kids to overcrowded McLean, and maybe they even realized Falls Church is getting expanded, but all that should have also suggested leaving these kids at Jackson and maintaining the fairly even split feeder at Timber Lane.

Same analysis holds for Longfellow. The person who thinks it’s insane to send great falls to Langley surely feels the same about busing these poor kids to Longfellow, right?

I don't think that the proposed Timber Lane/Longfellow adjustment to 50 makes any sense. But if you are trying to convince me that Forestville should go anywhere other than Herndon, you'll fail. If I pick a nice central location on Seneca, it is 4 miles and less than 10 min from Herndon. It is 11 miles and 22 minutes (non-rush!) to Langley. There's simply no argument except people want to go to the rich school.

But I'm not just going to call out Forestville. Why is Westbriar the way it is, and why on earth would the western kids go to Marshall? Langley, Marshall, Madison, and McLean need to be more compact and be prepped to divide up any growth in Tysons.

You are picking the furthest point in Forestville intentionally, and it’s clear what your agenda is. The fact is that on average from Forestville you save two minutes to HMS than Cooper, and 9 to HHS from Langley. Those are rounding errors, despite you trying to convince everyone that it’s otherwise.

I already know you’ll call me an “equity warrior” but Katy Perry could have seen that FVES should go to Herndon from her little outer space jaunt.

So, who should go to Langley to replace them?

They are slowly sneaking the over-capacity McLean into Langley. The 4/11 projections are sneaky because the new capacities are WITH modulars. There should be an additional column to show new capacities WITHOUT.

CIP provides these projections and McLean for example, goes from 103% to 118% for 2030 with and then without modulars.

They will re-highlight the need to rid of modulars for the capacity studies even though parents have said it’s fine to have them.

Many of the 4/11 capacities sitting under their new limit of 105% will sky rocket - hence, Franklin Sherman moving into Langley, pushing FVES out. The other Langley ES schools have have some capacity shifts as well towards under-capacity Great Falls ES.

Just pointing out that moving Franklin Sherman elementary moves a number of kids who can walk to McLean High.

Is the actual delta difference of time between McLean and Langley for these kids as it is for most Forestville kids to go to HHS instead of Langley. So much for trying to streamline transportation, though we all know it has never been about that.

They just changed the elementary school boundaries in late 2023 so that 100% of Sherman feeds to McLean. Before then it was a split feeder with Langley, though most kids went to McLean.

I don't see them revisiting the Sherman assignment on 4/25, but they'll likely be taking a look at the two split feeders to McLean that currently split 80% to Marshall and 20% to McLean - Westgate and Lemon Road. The 4/11 scenarios envisioned moving a little bit more of Westgate to McLean, but who knows whether they'll propose something incremental or entirely different on 4/25.

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Anonymous wrote:I think connecting the timber lane island with a bit from falls hill so it’s “connected” on map is fine if it’s needed but don’t think we need to extend to 50. My kid went to timber lane. Longfellow, and now is at McLean. We are equal distant to McLean, Marshall, and Falls church but the kids by 50 are much closer to falls church.

They are doing anything to bump capacity up at Cooper and Langley to cut FHES to Herndon.

Sending kids that border Loudoun Co. to Langley is insane.

As insane as sending kids near 50 to McLean? because I looked and it adds the exact same amount of time to their commute.

Like it or not, the difference to HMS is within a couple minutes commute of Cooper and less than ten to HHS vs Langley.

Your equity obsession is showing.

They aren't proposing (yet) to send kids near Route 50 to McLean, just to Longfellow. They would leave these kids at Falls Church. Of course, that's even more bizarre, since about 95% of Longfellow goes to McLean. I guess they left them at Falls Church because they didn't want to add kids to overcrowded McLean, and maybe they even realized Falls Church is getting expanded, but all that should have also suggested leaving these kids at Jackson and maintaining the fairly even split feeder at Timber Lane.

Same analysis holds for Longfellow. The person who thinks it’s insane to send great falls to Langley surely feels the same about busing these poor kids to Longfellow, right?

I don't think that the proposed Timber Lane/Longfellow adjustment to 50 makes any sense. But if you are trying to convince me that Forestville should go anywhere other than Herndon, you'll fail. If I pick a nice central location on Seneca, it is 4 miles and less than 10 min from Herndon. It is 11 miles and 22 minutes (non-rush!) to Langley. There's simply no argument except people want to go to the rich school.

But I'm not just going to call out Forestville. Why is Westbriar the way it is, and why on earth would the western kids go to Marshall? Langley, Marshall, Madison, and McLean need to be more compact and be prepped to divide up any growth in Tysons.

You are picking the furthest point in Forestville intentionally, and it’s clear what your agenda is. The fact is that on average from Forestville you save two minutes to HMS than Cooper, and 9 to HHS from Langley. Those are rounding errors, despite you trying to convince everyone that it’s otherwise.

I already know you’ll call me an “equity warrior” but Katy Perry could have seen that FVES should go to Herndon from her little outer space jaunt.

So, who should go to Langley to replace them?

They are slowly sneaking the over-capacity McLean into Langley. The 4/11 projections are sneaky because the new capacities are WITH modulars. There should be an additional column to show new capacities WITHOUT.

CIP provides these projections and McLean for example, goes from 103% to 118% for 2030 with and then without modulars.

They will re-highlight the need to rid of modulars for the capacity studies even though parents have said it’s fine to have them.

Many of the 4/11 capacities sitting under their new limit of 105% will sky rocket - hence, Franklin Sherman moving into Langley, pushing FVES out. The other Langley ES schools have have some capacity shifts as well towards under-capacity Great Falls ES.

The projections are MEANINGLESS. None of them are taking into account: RIFs, ripple-effect layoffs, ICE removals, VERAs/Forks, and all the other ripple effects.

Projections from last year = UTTER GARBAGE.

Halt the adjustment!