my post was removed?

[Anonymous]

I posted about how one can prevent raising kids who would do such things as reported in the Stuebenville rape case, as well as how we can teach our daughters to protect themselves.

I can't imagine that I said anything so offensive it would be removed. What happened?

[jsteele]

That topic belongs in the older kids forum, which as it happens, there is already a thread on the topic.

[Anonymous]

Well, I don't have older kids. I have little kids. And I absolutely disagree that you start teaching your children life lessons beginning in their older years. Decency, kindness, self-respect? These are things that apply to all parents and all kids. No way that thread or my concerns are specific to older kids. I wouldn't have known about the other thread because I never go to older kids forum because I've only got little ones. If anything that other thread should have been moved to general parenting. This is absolutely not something specific to older kids. Maybe only an older kid rapes but younger kids obviously grow up to commit rape and younger girls and boys grow up to get raped. Prevention starts young. Surprised at your doing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't have older kids. I have little kids. And I absolutely disagree that you start teaching your children life lessons beginning in their older years. Decency, kindness, self-respect? These are things that apply to all parents and all kids. No way that thread or my concerns are specific to older kids. I wouldn't have known about the other thread because I never go to older kids forum because I've only got little ones. If anything that other thread should have been moved to general parenting. This is absolutely not something specific to older kids. Maybe only an older kid rapes but younger kids obviously grow up to commit rape and younger girls and boys grow up to get raped. Prevention starts young. Surprised at your doing this.

Piece of advice, op: Lecturing Jeff isn't going help your case. Your tone is far too strident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't have older kids. I have little kids. And I absolutely disagree that you start teaching your children life lessons beginning in their older years. Decency, kindness, self-respect? These are things that apply to all parents and all kids. No way that thread or my concerns are specific to older kids. I wouldn't have known about the other thread because I never go to older kids forum because I've only got little ones. If anything that other thread should have been moved to general parenting. This is absolutely not something specific to older kids. Maybe only an older kid rapes but younger kids obviously grow up to commit rape and younger girls and boys grow up to get raped. Prevention starts young. Surprised at your doing this.

Piece of advice, op: Lecturing Jeff isn't going help your case. Your tone is far too strident.

I'm not trying to persuade Jeff to reinstate my post. It's his sandbox, but that doesn't mean I'll pretend I agree. What's your point anyway?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't have older kids. I have little kids. And I absolutely disagree that you start teaching your children life lessons beginning in their older years. Decency, kindness, self-respect? These are things that apply to all parents and all kids. No way that thread or my concerns are specific to older kids. I wouldn't have known about the other thread because I never go to older kids forum because I've only got little ones. If anything that other thread should have been moved to general parenting. This is absolutely not something specific to older kids. Maybe only an older kid rapes but younger kids obviously grow up to commit rape and younger girls and boys grow up to get raped. Prevention starts young. Surprised at your doing this.

Piece of advice, op: Lecturing Jeff isn't going help your case. Your tone is far too strident.

I'm not trying to persuade Jeff to reinstate my post. It's his sandbox, but that doesn't mean I'll pretend I agree. What's your point anyway?

My point is that you sound very strident and disagreeable. That's generally not a good way to be and not a good way to get what you want. Just a little advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't have older kids. I have little kids. And I absolutely disagree that you start teaching your children life lessons beginning in their older years. Decency, kindness, self-respect? These are things that apply to all parents and all kids. No way that thread or my concerns are specific to older kids. I wouldn't have known about the other thread because I never go to older kids forum because I've only got little ones. If anything that other thread should have been moved to general parenting. This is absolutely not something specific to older kids. Maybe only an older kid rapes but younger kids obviously grow up to commit rape and younger girls and boys grow up to get raped. Prevention starts young. Surprised at your doing this.

Piece of advice, op: Lecturing Jeff isn't going help your case. Your tone is far too strident.

I'm not trying to persuade Jeff to reinstate my post. It's his sandbox, but that doesn't mean I'll pretend I agree. What's your point anyway?

My point is that you sound very strident and disagreeable. That's generally not a good way to be and not a good way to get what you want. Just a little advice.

And you sound like a patronizing jagoff. There's just a little advice right back off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't have older kids. I have little kids. And I absolutely disagree that you start teaching your children life lessons beginning in their older years. Decency, kindness, self-respect? These are things that apply to all parents and all kids. No way that thread or my concerns are specific to older kids. I wouldn't have known about the other thread because I never go to older kids forum because I've only got little ones. If anything that other thread should have been moved to general parenting. This is absolutely not something specific to older kids. Maybe only an older kid rapes but younger kids obviously grow up to commit rape and younger girls and boys grow up to get raped. Prevention starts young. Surprised at your doing this.

Piece of advice, op: Lecturing Jeff isn't going help your case. Your tone is far too strident.

I'm not trying to persuade Jeff to reinstate my post. It's his sandbox, but that doesn't mean I'll pretend I agree. What's your point anyway?

My point is that you sound very strident and disagreeable. That's generally not a good way to be and not a good way to get what you want. Just a little advice.

And you sound like a patronizing jagoff. There's just a little advice right back off.

Ah. Doubling down while sound illiterate. Brilliant. Out.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't have older kids. I have little kids. And I absolutely disagree that you start teaching your children life lessons beginning in their older years. Decency, kindness, self-respect? These are things that apply to all parents and all kids. No way that thread or my concerns are specific to older kids. I wouldn't have known about the other thread because I never go to older kids forum because I've only got little ones. If anything that other thread should have been moved to general parenting. This is absolutely not something specific to older kids. Maybe only an older kid rapes but younger kids obviously grow up to commit rape and younger girls and boys grow up to get raped. Prevention starts young. Surprised at your doing this.

The "older kids" forum is for kids of elementary school age and older. Are you teaching 3 and 4 year olds not to rape?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't have older kids. I have little kids. And I absolutely disagree that you start teaching your children life lessons beginning in their older years. Decency, kindness, self-respect? These are things that apply to all parents and all kids. No way that thread or my concerns are specific to older kids. I wouldn't have known about the other thread because I never go to older kids forum because I've only got little ones. If anything that other thread should have been moved to general parenting. This is absolutely not something specific to older kids. Maybe only an older kid rapes but younger kids obviously grow up to commit rape and younger girls and boys grow up to get raped. Prevention starts young. Surprised at your doing this.

The "older kids" forum is for kids of elementary school age and older. Are you teaching 3 and 4 year olds not to rape?

I think I've already provided what I'm teaching my kids, oldest will be 4, in my OP. No, I'm not discussing rape with him. But, I am trying to teach him to be a decent human being. I'm trying to lay down life lessons that he'll keep with him. I want to know how a little boy as sweet as mine could turn into a rapist. Yes, some kids can be just bad, but parenting has to play a role. I think it would be foolish indeed to ignore concerns about raising decent kids until the teen years, or even until elementary school.

BTW, lots of elementary school kids issues on general parenting, as well. I thought general parenting applied to all parents? My point here, once you explained that "teaching kids not to grow up and rape as well as to be cautious in the world" is strictly the domain of the parent of older children. It doesn't have to be a specific conversation about raping (or urinating) on other kids. Some of these kids don't seem to know right from wrong.

[Anonymous]

NP. From what I can see, removing the post does seem a bit heavy-handed. Oftentimes there are multiple threads relating to the same newsworthy event and some of them overlap. But Jeff is the fox in this henhouse. You can't always predict what will prompt him to act.

[Anonymous]

I disagree with removing the post (which I didn't even see, so I'm not invested). So what there was another one? Why not just move it?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with removing the post (which I didn't even see, so I'm not invested). So what there was another one? Why not just move it?

If I moved it, it would have been moved to a forum in which there was an existing thread. A better alternative would have been finding the original thread, posting a message in the second thread asking users to discuss the issue in the original thread and including a link, and then locking the second thread. But, I was in a big hurry and didn't have time for that. I wanted to stop the second thread before a bazillion people posted to it.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with removing the post (which I didn't even see, so I'm not invested). So what there was another one? Why not just move it?

If I moved it, it would have been moved to a forum in which there was an existing thread. A better alternative would have been finding the original thread, posting a message in the second thread asking users to discuss the issue in the original thread and including a link, and then locking the second thread. But, I was in a big hurry and didn't have time for that. [b]I wanted to stop the second thread before a bazillion people posted to it.[b]

Why?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with removing the post (which I didn't even see, so I'm not invested). So what there was another one? Why not just move it?

If I moved it, it would have been moved to a forum in which there was an existing thread. A better alternative would have been finding the original thread, posting a message in the second thread asking users to discuss the issue in the original thread and including a link, and then locking the second thread. But, I was in a big hurry and didn't have time for that. [b]I wanted to stop the second thread before a bazillion people posted to it.[b]

Why?

Obviously it's easier to take steps to moderate a thread before it has a large number of responses. Also, given the similarity of the two threads, most of the responses would have been pretty much the same.