Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

https://saveconnecticutave.org/f/bike-lanes-are-killing-downtown

[Anonymous]

Are the Connecticut Avenue bike lane haters trying to manifest an end to the project, on DCUM? Everybody needs a hobby, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://saveconnecticutave.org/f/bike-lanes-are-killing-downtown

That page has a 404 error. But really, you think it's the bike lanes that are killing downtown? Not, say, the pandemic?

[Anonymous]

Totally safe street:

https://www.popville.com/2023/01/minivan-t-boned-in-cleveland-park-last-night/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bike lane fanatics should be eating crow. Their belief that the Conn Ave bike lanes would happen based on the election was ill founded. Matt Frumin has proven reasonable and sane with his understanding that a connected bike network is just propaganda. He is killing it at its root - where it would connect at Calvert. This is a great idea. Narrow the bike lanes down the entire avenue and the whole enterprise will fail so we can all move on with a safe Connecticut Ave.

If leadership were rewarded by voters, we wouldn't be slowly but steadily cooking the planet. And if Ward 3, with all of its privilege and progressivism can't make decisions which signal a need to mitigate car-dependency - however inconvenient that may be to some - I'm not sure we can hope anywhere else will. One can only hope that Matt Frumin understands that while there is compromising is generally virtuous, we are long overdue to overhauling the ways in which people get around in this relatively flat, relatively temperate, transit-rich city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://saveconnecticutave.org/f/bike-lanes-are-killing-downtown

That page has a 404 error. But really, you think it's the bike lanes that are killing downtown? Not, say, the pandemic?

The page error is fixed. The problems that this shadowy group, however, has with fact and logic remain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://saveconnecticutave.org/f/bike-lanes-are-killing-downtown

Oh yay, more hyperbolic drivel from the drivel-producing idiots who live in Ward 4-west of RCP and are oh so ever bent out of shape of losing their ability to park where ever they damn well please, when ever they damn well please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bike lane fanatics should be eating crow. Their belief that the Conn Ave bike lanes would happen based on the election was ill founded. Matt Frumin has proven reasonable and sane with his understanding that a connected bike network is just propaganda. He is killing it at its root - where it would connect at Calvert. This is a great idea. Narrow the bike lanes down the entire avenue and the whole enterprise will fail so we can all move on with a safe Connecticut Ave.

DP, what the hell are you smoking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://saveconnecticutave.org/f/bike-lanes-are-killing-downtown

Oh yay, more hyperbolic drivel from the drivel-producing idiots who live in Ward 4-west of RCP and are oh so ever bent out of shape of losing their ability to park where ever they damn well please, when ever they damn well please.

I read it. I am not sure what is so controversial about what the Greater Washington Board of Trade has said:

“The interplay between traffic and transit is hard to miss with increased congestion downtown as many workers are opting to drive rather than take transit. Adding to this problem is the reduction of vehicle lanes across the District. While we support dedicated bus and bike lanes, the persistent elimination of vehicle lanes is having an adverse effect that is causing many employers to shift personnel to other locations, making it even more difficult to fill empty offices.”

They are not calling for removal of bike lanes. They are pointing out the adverse effect they are having on employment and office vacancies.
https://www.bot.org/revitalizing-downtown-washington-dc-must-happen-now/

Why do you find this information so threatening? Sure bike lanes are all well and good, but why does it make you so angry when their downsides are pointed out?

[Anonymous]

It's not threatening, at least not to me. Or even controversial. It's just empirically wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not threatening, at least not to me. Or even controversial. It's just empirically wrong.

Based on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://saveconnecticutave.org/f/bike-lanes-are-killing-downtown

Oh yay, more hyperbolic drivel from the drivel-producing idiots who live in Ward 4-west of RCP and are oh so ever bent out of shape of losing their ability to park where ever they damn well please, when ever they damn well please.

I read it. I am not sure what is so controversial about what the Greater Washington Board of Trade has said:

“The interplay between traffic and transit is hard to miss with increased congestion downtown as many workers are opting to drive rather than take transit. Adding to this problem is the reduction of vehicle lanes across the District. While we support dedicated bus and bike lanes, the persistent elimination of vehicle lanes is having an adverse effect that is causing many employers to shift personnel to other locations, making it even more difficult to fill empty offices.”

They are not calling for removal of bike lanes. They are pointing out the adverse effect they are having on employment and office vacancies.
https://www.bot.org/revitalizing-downtown-washington-dc-must-happen-now/

Why do you find this information so threatening? Sure bike lanes are all well and good, but why does it make you so angry when their downsides are pointed out?

Yeah, its the bike lanes keeping people out of downtown. And not the pandemic, or cultural trends to not want to be crammed in offices and elevators with other people spurred on by going on three years of social distancing and masking, or the fact that a bunch of people can and like working from home. Yeah, its not any of those things. Its gotta be those damn bike lanes!

Seriously, go downtown. Do this on foot (or bike) so you can actually observe rather than zone out driving. Go down to 17th street or 15th st or 14th st which all have bike lanes. Go to M or L cross streets. Do that at 8:30am on a monday, on a tuesday, on a wednesday. You know what you won't see? You won't see gridlock because traffic isn't anywhere close to as bad as it used to be at peak hours. Commute times are spreadout more. So when there didn't used to be traffic, there is now. but its moving, a little slow, but moving. It's not the empty roads post pandemic. But its not the takes you 15 minutes to go two blocks in downtown either.

Drivel

[Anonymous]

Except traffic has returned to pre pandemic levels. Transit ridership has not. Area business leaders are now telling the city that this is one of many factors that are now causing employers to move jobs out of the city. This all makes sense. I read a lot about reduced demand and traffic evaporation. It turns out what happens is that the traffic just goes somewhere else with the jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Except traffic has returned to pre pandemic levels. Transit ridership has not. Area business leaders are now telling the city that this is one of many factors that are now causing employers to move jobs out of the city. This all makes sense. I read a lot about reduced demand and traffic evaporation. It turns out what happens is that the traffic just goes somewhere else with the jobs.

No it hasn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Except traffic has returned to pre pandemic levels. Transit ridership has not. Area business leaders are now telling the city that this is one of many factors that are now causing employers to move jobs out of the city. This all makes sense. I read a lot about reduced demand and traffic evaporation. It turns out what happens is that the traffic just goes somewhere else with the jobs.

Hmm, sure looks different to me.

Like PP said, the peaks aren't there anymore. It's down 20% from Feb 2020..