Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:They seemed so happy together after he won on Sunday. I just don't give a crap about the rest of this analysis. I see two people who seem genuinely happy to be together, seem genuinely happy to support one another (who honestly gives two craps about what she's wearing to a game). There's way too much "let's analyze every aspect of this relationship about two people who we'll never meet." Just stop already. They're giving us nuggets of happiness, why second guess it? When/if they break up, fine, but for now they're happy with each other. (What "fake" girlfriend flies from Japan for a game. That woman would do nothing to jeopardize her tour, no way would she do that unless she absolutely wanted to.)

Uh, one who has a private jet and likely would have jetted off to her next engagement after that show anyway. She's not hoofing it out to Haneda and flying standby, lol.

Where are all the young people screaming about carbon footprints?

I'm not young but I do think it's gross that she's going to fly to Vegas after the Tokyo shows and then turn around and fly to Australia for more shows. And I find it eye-roll inducing that many of Taylor's young fans will applaud this as a sign of how committed she is to Travis (which is important to them for some reason) even though it is also destroying the planet they will be left to live on long after Taylor and Travis break up.

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Anonymous wrote:They seemed so happy together after he won on Sunday. I just don't give a crap about the rest of this analysis. I see two people who seem genuinely happy to be together, seem genuinely happy to support one another (who honestly gives two craps about what she's wearing to a game). There's way too much "let's analyze every aspect of this relationship about two people who we'll never meet." Just stop already. They're giving us nuggets of happiness, why second guess it? When/if they break up, fine, but for now they're happy with each other. (What "fake" girlfriend flies from Japan for a game. That woman would do nothing to jeopardize her tour, no way would she do that unless she absolutely wanted to.)

Uh, one who has a private jet and likely would have jetted off to her next engagement after that show anyway. She's not hoofing it out to Haneda and flying standby, lol.

Where are all the young people screaming about carbon footprints?

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Anonymous wrote:They seemed so happy together after he won on Sunday. I just don't give a crap about the rest of this analysis. I see two people who seem genuinely happy to be together, seem genuinely happy to support one another (who honestly gives two craps about what she's wearing to a game). There's way too much "let's analyze every aspect of this relationship about two people who we'll never meet." Just stop already. They're giving us nuggets of happiness, why second guess it? When/if they break up, fine, but for now they're happy with each other. (What "fake" girlfriend flies from Japan for a game. That woman would do nothing to jeopardize her tour, no way would she do that unless she absolutely wanted to.)

Uh, one who has a private jet and likely would have jetted off to her next engagement after that show anyway. She's not hoofing it out to Haneda and flying standby, lol.

Where are all the young people screaming about carbon footprints?

I’m just impressed that Taylor managed to convince so many right wingers that human-caused climate change is real. They were in denial for so long.

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Anonymous wrote:They seemed so happy together after he won on Sunday. I just don't give a crap about the rest of this analysis. I see two people who seem genuinely happy to be together, seem genuinely happy to support one another (who honestly gives two craps about what she's wearing to a game). There's way too much "let's analyze every aspect of this relationship about two people who we'll never meet." Just stop already. They're giving us nuggets of happiness, why second guess it? When/if they break up, fine, but for now they're happy with each other. (What "fake" girlfriend flies from Japan for a game. That woman would do nothing to jeopardize her tour, no way would she do that unless she absolutely wanted to.)

Uh, one who has a private jet and likely would have jetted off to her next engagement after that show anyway. She's not hoofing it out to Haneda and flying standby, lol.

Where are all the young people screaming about carbon footprints?

I’m just impressed that Taylor managed to convince so many right wingers that human-caused climate change is real. They were in denial for so long.

Nah. It's more about the hypocrisy.

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Anonymous wrote:They seemed so happy together after he won on Sunday. I just don't give a crap about the rest of this analysis. I see two people who seem genuinely happy to be together, seem genuinely happy to support one another (who honestly gives two craps about what she's wearing to a game). There's way too much "let's analyze every aspect of this relationship about two people who we'll never meet." Just stop already. They're giving us nuggets of happiness, why second guess it? When/if they break up, fine, but for now they're happy with each other. (What "fake" girlfriend flies from Japan for a game. That woman would do nothing to jeopardize her tour, no way would she do that unless she absolutely wanted to.)

Uh, one who has a private jet and likely would have jetted off to her next engagement after that show anyway. She's not hoofing it out to Haneda and flying standby, lol.

Where are all the young people screaming about carbon footprints?

The young people now have role models like Taylor swift who should monetize their handwriting, relationship and attract attention to get more buzz to make more money.
Hopefully the kids wake up more than the parents who see her as a role model.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree she's never dated anyone that great, which I think is something that happens to very successful women often, for a lot of reasons.

One reason I don't see them getting married and having kids is that what would that even look like? It is so, so hard to do her job with kids. Especially to do it the way she does it.

Like look at the people around them with kids. They mostly have at least one person who is either a SAHM or has the kind of career where taking time off to be with young kids is okay. Blake Lively has taken a step back from acting, so did Sophie Turner. Kylie Kelce and Brittany Mahomes sort of work but a huge part of their job is just the kids and supporting their husbands. A lot of their friends don't have kids despite being in the age range where people are most likely to do that. I just do not see Taylor doing what any of those women have done.

At the same time, I don't see Travis being the one who puts his career on the back burner to have kids. He is obviously chomping at the bit to launch an entertainment career, and the window between NFL retirement and losing the goodwill/fame/interest that would make that possible will be narrow, I think. I don't think he's going to be content to do the occasion broadcasting gig while trailing after Taylor on tour or being the primary parent while she's recording or promoting.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced it's even a real relationship, but even if it is, I don't see it lasting. It's worked thus far because the timing has allowed her to play WAG during a big season for him. That ends in 2 weeks and I don't see her backburnering anything to put him first, or vice versa.

Sorry this is off-topic, but Blake has four kids and an army of nannies. Period. When you see Blake dressed up on a night out with Taylor, she didn’t just put down the sippy cup and throw on that dress. A team of hair and make up people came to our house hours before and helped her get ready. That itself is a job. It is time away from the kids. I’m certainly not criticizing her for it but it is what it is. She acts pretty regularly, and she has a business - the Betty buzz thing - and she does a ton of side projects that let her showcase her baking and cooking skills that she has monetized. She is also at many fashion and industry events - which take a lot of planning and prep.

Sorry for the interruption but Blake and Ryan HUSTLE and they have somehow crafted this opposite image.

Betty Buzz is Ryan's business, she just did single branded offering within it. And yes, I am sure she's got a million nannies and is not actually SAHMing. But no, she is not acting a ton -- she's made 2 movies since 2018 and is in production on a 3rd. That's a light schedule for an actor and includes entire years where she did not work at all. She does charitable stuff and fashion stuff, I'm not saying she doesn't "hustle."

But is she focused on her career the way Taylor is? Absolutely not. So while Taylor has made a billion dollars and released album after album including her remastered versions, toured, won tons of Grammys, and become a cultural juggernaut, Lively is a sometimes-actress who is better known at this point for being Ryan Reynold's wife, having a lot of kids, and being on the original Gossip Girl. There is nothing wrong with any of that -- I'd personally rather have Blake's life than Taylor's because I'm not ambitious and it sounds more chill and fun.

But I don't think Taylor wants that life. She is incredibly ambitious. She is not going to go part-time the way Blake has.

I agree with you about Blake being less career focused but don’t agree She is less obsessed with her image than taylor. In fact, I believe she may be even more obsessed with image than Taylor.

Taylor loves the craft of songwriting and performing- and yes the celeb stuff that comes with it- Blake just seems to enjoy being a famous wife and fashionista and is it in for the pap walks. The crappy and sparse acting jobs are just the price she has to pay to do her real job of performing for the paps and being recognized as having an A list husband and being told on instagram how hot she is or how great her taste is.

So crazy to me people think she is chill and less ambitious. It just couldn’t be further from the truth. She’s just after a different outcome.

I don't think SHE is chill. I think her life is chill. I absolutely think Blake Lively spends like 90% of her life shopping/hanging with friends/hanging with family.

But she doesn’t. Because she spends a lot of time preparing to look good for those things and that is really itself a job. She crafts her image. It seems exhausting and the opposite of a chill life.

What fascinates me about the discussion differences on DCUM between Blake and Taylor is that people seem to accept Blake because she just dabbles in everything but shes not trying to be super successful or anything.

We accept that she has a business because it’s really Ryan’s business as someone pointed out. She’s super rich but a lot of it is his money. She does a little bit of acting, but not much. She dabbles in fashion, but isn't trying to dominate. It’s very acceptable that she’s a mom and a wife. we like that she works but she doesn’t work too much.

Taylor, on the other hand is just too much of everything. She doesn’t do music she dominates it. She isn’t just a businesswoman she is THE business woman. She’s also not a mom and she’s wasting her good eggs…or something.

Blake loves attention and her hamming it up at the game, girls night out, etc. is just as ridiculous and to me seems MORE desperate than Taylor but no one criticizes her for all the above reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree she's never dated anyone that great, which I think is something that happens to very successful women often, for a lot of reasons.

One reason I don't see them getting married and having kids is that what would that even look like? It is so, so hard to do her job with kids. Especially to do it the way she does it.

Like look at the people around them with kids. They mostly have at least one person who is either a SAHM or has the kind of career where taking time off to be with young kids is okay. Blake Lively has taken a step back from acting, so did Sophie Turner. Kylie Kelce and Brittany Mahomes sort of work but a huge part of their job is just the kids and supporting their husbands. A lot of their friends don't have kids despite being in the age range where people are most likely to do that. I just do not see Taylor doing what any of those women have done.

At the same time, I don't see Travis being the one who puts his career on the back burner to have kids. He is obviously chomping at the bit to launch an entertainment career, and the window between NFL retirement and losing the goodwill/fame/interest that would make that possible will be narrow, I think. I don't think he's going to be content to do the occasion broadcasting gig while trailing after Taylor on tour or being the primary parent while she's recording or promoting.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced it's even a real relationship, but even if it is, I don't see it lasting. It's worked thus far because the timing has allowed her to play WAG during a big season for him. That ends in 2 weeks and I don't see her backburnering anything to put him first, or vice versa.

Sorry this is off-topic, but Blake has four kids and an army of nannies. Period. When you see Blake dressed up on a night out with Taylor, she didn’t just put down the sippy cup and throw on that dress. A team of hair and make up people came to our house hours before and helped her get ready. That itself is a job. It is time away from the kids. I’m certainly not criticizing her for it but it is what it is. She acts pretty regularly, and she has a business - the Betty buzz thing - and she does a ton of side projects that let her showcase her baking and cooking skills that she has monetized. She is also at many fashion and industry events - which take a lot of planning and prep.

Sorry for the interruption but Blake and Ryan HUSTLE and they have somehow crafted this opposite image.

Betty Buzz is Ryan's business, she just did single branded offering within it. And yes, I am sure she's got a million nannies and is not actually SAHMing. But no, she is not acting a ton -- she's made 2 movies since 2018 and is in production on a 3rd. That's a light schedule for an actor and includes entire years where she did not work at all. She does charitable stuff and fashion stuff, I'm not saying she doesn't "hustle."

But is she focused on her career the way Taylor is? Absolutely not. So while Taylor has made a billion dollars and released album after album including her remastered versions, toured, won tons of Grammys, and become a cultural juggernaut, Lively is a sometimes-actress who is better known at this point for being Ryan Reynold's wife, having a lot of kids, and being on the original Gossip Girl. There is nothing wrong with any of that -- I'd personally rather have Blake's life than Taylor's because I'm not ambitious and it sounds more chill and fun.

But I don't think Taylor wants that life. She is incredibly ambitious. She is not going to go part-time the way Blake has.

I agree with you about Blake being less career focused but don’t agree She is less obsessed with her image than taylor. In fact, I believe she may be even more obsessed with image than Taylor.

Taylor loves the craft of songwriting and performing- and yes the celeb stuff that comes with it- Blake just seems to enjoy being a famous wife and fashionista and is it in for the pap walks. The crappy and sparse acting jobs are just the price she has to pay to do her real job of performing for the paps and being recognized as having an A list husband and being told on instagram how hot she is or how great her taste is.

So crazy to me people think she is chill and less ambitious. It just couldn’t be further from the truth. She’s just after a different outcome.

I don't think SHE is chill. I think her life is chill. I absolutely think Blake Lively spends like 90% of her life shopping/hanging with friends/hanging with family.

But she doesn’t. Because she spends a lot of time preparing to look good for those things and that is really itself a job. She crafts her image. It seems exhausting and the opposite of a chill life.

What fascinates me about the discussion differences on DCUM between Blake and Taylor is that people seem to accept Blake because she just dabbles in everything but shes not trying to be super successful or anything.

We accept that she has a business because it’s really Ryan’s business as someone pointed out. She’s super rich but a lot of it is his money. She does a little bit of acting, but not much. She dabbles in fashion, but isn't trying to dominate. It’s very acceptable that she’s a mom and a wife. we like that she works but she doesn’t work too much.

Taylor, on the other hand is just too much of everything. She doesn’t do music she dominates it. She isn’t just a businesswoman she is THE business woman. She’s also not a mom and she’s wasting her good eggs…or something.

Blake loves attention and her hamming it up at the game, girls night out, etc. is just as ridiculous and to me seems MORE desperate than Taylor but no one criticizes her for all the above reasons.

I disagree. I think Taylor’s business is really her parents. Her parents announced their marriage like it was a stock deal. (I’m sure it was “funny” to them, but it still speaks volumes). Her parents are the ones who monetized her. She knows nothing else and goes along with it. She vaguely feels this is strange, but has no clue how to take control of this at this point and is still living as the dreams of her parents rather than just the life she wants. (See anti-hero)

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Anonymous wrote:I agree she's never dated anyone that great, which I think is something that happens to very successful women often, for a lot of reasons.

One reason I don't see them getting married and having kids is that what would that even look like? It is so, so hard to do her job with kids. Especially to do it the way she does it.

Like look at the people around them with kids. They mostly have at least one person who is either a SAHM or has the kind of career where taking time off to be with young kids is okay. Blake Lively has taken a step back from acting, so did Sophie Turner. Kylie Kelce and Brittany Mahomes sort of work but a huge part of their job is just the kids and supporting their husbands. A lot of their friends don't have kids despite being in the age range where people are most likely to do that. I just do not see Taylor doing what any of those women have done.

At the same time, I don't see Travis being the one who puts his career on the back burner to have kids. He is obviously chomping at the bit to launch an entertainment career, and the window between NFL retirement and losing the goodwill/fame/interest that would make that possible will be narrow, I think. I don't think he's going to be content to do the occasion broadcasting gig while trailing after Taylor on tour or being the primary parent while she's recording or promoting.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced it's even a real relationship, but even if it is, I don't see it lasting. It's worked thus far because the timing has allowed her to play WAG during a big season for him. That ends in 2 weeks and I don't see her backburnering anything to put him first, or vice versa.

Sorry this is off-topic, but Blake has four kids and an army of nannies. Period. When you see Blake dressed up on a night out with Taylor, she didn’t just put down the sippy cup and throw on that dress. A team of hair and make up people came to our house hours before and helped her get ready. That itself is a job. It is time away from the kids. I’m certainly not criticizing her for it but it is what it is. She acts pretty regularly, and she has a business - the Betty buzz thing - and she does a ton of side projects that let her showcase her baking and cooking skills that she has monetized. She is also at many fashion and industry events - which take a lot of planning and prep.

Sorry for the interruption but Blake and Ryan HUSTLE and they have somehow crafted this opposite image.

Betty Buzz is Ryan's business, she just did single branded offering within it. And yes, I am sure she's got a million nannies and is not actually SAHMing. But no, she is not acting a ton -- she's made 2 movies since 2018 and is in production on a 3rd. That's a light schedule for an actor and includes entire years where she did not work at all. She does charitable stuff and fashion stuff, I'm not saying she doesn't "hustle."

But is she focused on her career the way Taylor is? Absolutely not. So while Taylor has made a billion dollars and released album after album including her remastered versions, toured, won tons of Grammys, and become a cultural juggernaut, Lively is a sometimes-actress who is better known at this point for being Ryan Reynold's wife, having a lot of kids, and being on the original Gossip Girl. There is nothing wrong with any of that -- I'd personally rather have Blake's life than Taylor's because I'm not ambitious and it sounds more chill and fun.

But I don't think Taylor wants that life. She is incredibly ambitious. She is not going to go part-time the way Blake has.

I agree with you about Blake being less career focused but don’t agree She is less obsessed with her image than taylor. In fact, I believe she may be even more obsessed with image than Taylor.

Taylor loves the craft of songwriting and performing- and yes the celeb stuff that comes with it- Blake just seems to enjoy being a famous wife and fashionista and is it in for the pap walks. The crappy and sparse acting jobs are just the price she has to pay to do her real job of performing for the paps and being recognized as having an A list husband and being told on instagram how hot she is or how great her taste is.

So crazy to me people think she is chill and less ambitious. It just couldn’t be further from the truth. She’s just after a different outcome.

I don't think SHE is chill. I think her life is chill. I absolutely think Blake Lively spends like 90% of her life shopping/hanging with friends/hanging with family.

But she doesn’t. Because she spends a lot of time preparing to look good for those things and that is really itself a job. She crafts her image. It seems exhausting and the opposite of a chill life.

What fascinates me about the discussion differences on DCUM between Blake and Taylor is that people seem to accept Blake because she just dabbles in everything but shes not trying to be super successful or anything.

We accept that she has a business because it’s really Ryan’s business as someone pointed out. She’s super rich but a lot of it is his money. She does a little bit of acting, but not much. She dabbles in fashion, but isn't trying to dominate. It’s very acceptable that she’s a mom and a wife. we like that she works but she doesn’t work too much.

Taylor, on the other hand is just too much of everything. She doesn’t do music she dominates it. She isn’t just a businesswoman she is THE business woman. She’s also not a mom and she’s wasting her good eggs…or something.

Blake loves attention and her hamming it up at the game, girls night out, etc. is just as ridiculous and to me seems MORE desperate than Taylor but no one criticizes her for all the above reasons.

Blake doesn't go out often enough for "looking good" to be that time consuming. It's not like she's going to events 4 days a week. She might do one major event a month (probably less sometimes, more others, depending on the season or whether she or Ryan is promoting something) and then yeah, she'll be spotted out having dinner with friends or whatever. But while getting ready for a major event might take hours, getting ready for a night where she might be photographed by paparazzi does not, even if she might have hair/makeup done and wear a stylist-selected outfit. But it is not an all day event. And there are lots of days where she's not going out at all and there is no "getting ready." She is not at a stage in her career where she's going to every store opening or product launch just to get her name in magazines. She is spending a LOT of time just doing what she wants.

Chrissy Teigan is another one in this category. Sure, she works sometimes. There may be times when she is very busy and putting a lot of effort into getting ready for events, like when she's launching a product or when her husband has the Grammys or the Inauguration or something. But she's spending an enormous amount of time just doing what she wants.

These women are essentially "ladies of leisure." We live in a time when it's considered bad form to have no job at all, and as celebrities these people can make some easy number by doing branded collaborations, or can burnish their reps by doing some work with a nonprofit or arts organization. But do these women really "work" in the sense that Taylor does? No, the do not.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree she's never dated anyone that great, which I think is something that happens to very successful women often, for a lot of reasons.

One reason I don't see them getting married and having kids is that what would that even look like? It is so, so hard to do her job with kids. Especially to do it the way she does it.

Like look at the people around them with kids. They mostly have at least one person who is either a SAHM or has the kind of career where taking time off to be with young kids is okay. Blake Lively has taken a step back from acting, so did Sophie Turner. Kylie Kelce and Brittany Mahomes sort of work but a huge part of their job is just the kids and supporting their husbands. A lot of their friends don't have kids despite being in the age range where people are most likely to do that. I just do not see Taylor doing what any of those women have done.

At the same time, I don't see Travis being the one who puts his career on the back burner to have kids. He is obviously chomping at the bit to launch an entertainment career, and the window between NFL retirement and losing the goodwill/fame/interest that would make that possible will be narrow, I think. I don't think he's going to be content to do the occasion broadcasting gig while trailing after Taylor on tour or being the primary parent while she's recording or promoting.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced it's even a real relationship, but even if it is, I don't see it lasting. It's worked thus far because the timing has allowed her to play WAG during a big season for him. That ends in 2 weeks and I don't see her backburnering anything to put him first, or vice versa.

Sorry this is off-topic, but Blake has four kids and an army of nannies. Period. When you see Blake dressed up on a night out with Taylor, she didn’t just put down the sippy cup and throw on that dress. A team of hair and make up people came to our house hours before and helped her get ready. That itself is a job. It is time away from the kids. I’m certainly not criticizing her for it but it is what it is. She acts pretty regularly, and she has a business - the Betty buzz thing - and she does a ton of side projects that let her showcase her baking and cooking skills that she has monetized. She is also at many fashion and industry events - which take a lot of planning and prep.

Sorry for the interruption but Blake and Ryan HUSTLE and they have somehow crafted this opposite image.

Betty Buzz is Ryan's business, she just did single branded offering within it. And yes, I am sure she's got a million nannies and is not actually SAHMing. But no, she is not acting a ton -- she's made 2 movies since 2018 and is in production on a 3rd. That's a light schedule for an actor and includes entire years where she did not work at all. She does charitable stuff and fashion stuff, I'm not saying she doesn't "hustle."

But is she focused on her career the way Taylor is? Absolutely not. So while Taylor has made a billion dollars and released album after album including her remastered versions, toured, won tons of Grammys, and become a cultural juggernaut, Lively is a sometimes-actress who is better known at this point for being Ryan Reynold's wife, having a lot of kids, and being on the original Gossip Girl. There is nothing wrong with any of that -- I'd personally rather have Blake's life than Taylor's because I'm not ambitious and it sounds more chill and fun.

But I don't think Taylor wants that life. She is incredibly ambitious. She is not going to go part-time the way Blake has.

I agree with you about Blake being less career focused but don’t agree She is less obsessed with her image than taylor. In fact, I believe she may be even more obsessed with image than Taylor.

Taylor loves the craft of songwriting and performing- and yes the celeb stuff that comes with it- Blake just seems to enjoy being a famous wife and fashionista and is it in for the pap walks. The crappy and sparse acting jobs are just the price she has to pay to do her real job of performing for the paps and being recognized as having an A list husband and being told on instagram how hot she is or how great her taste is.

So crazy to me people think she is chill and less ambitious. It just couldn’t be further from the truth. She’s just after a different outcome.

I don't think SHE is chill. I think her life is chill. I absolutely think Blake Lively spends like 90% of her life shopping/hanging with friends/hanging with family.

But she doesn’t. Because she spends a lot of time preparing to look good for those things and that is really itself a job. She crafts her image. It seems exhausting and the opposite of a chill life.

What fascinates me about the discussion differences on DCUM between Blake and Taylor is that people seem to accept Blake because she just dabbles in everything but shes not trying to be super successful or anything.

We accept that she has a business because it’s really Ryan’s business as someone pointed out. She’s super rich but a lot of it is his money. She does a little bit of acting, but not much. She dabbles in fashion, but isn't trying to dominate. It’s very acceptable that she’s a mom and a wife. we like that she works but she doesn’t work too much.

Taylor, on the other hand is just too much of everything. She doesn’t do music she dominates it. She isn’t just a businesswoman she is THE business woman. She’s also not a mom and she’s wasting her good eggs…or something.

Blake loves attention and her hamming it up at the game, girls night out, etc. is just as ridiculous and to me seems MORE desperate than Taylor but no one criticizes her for all the above reasons.

I disagree. I think Taylor’s business is really her parents. Her parents announced their marriage like it was a stock deal. (I’m sure it was “funny” to them, but it still speaks volumes). Her parents are the ones who monetized her. She knows nothing else and goes along with it. She vaguely feels this is strange, but has no clue how to take control of this at this point and is still living as the dreams of her parents rather than just the life she wants. (See anti-hero)

This was probably true at one point (when Taylor was a teen) but I don't think it's fair to say that now. She took the head start they gave her and really ran with it. I say this as someone who is not really a huge fan, has never managed to get into any of her music, and thinks her relationship with Kelce is pretty "extra" and annoying.

But you cannot deny that Taylor works hard and has earned her money, status, and fans. I may not love her music but wow does she know how to make music a lot of people do love. She knows how to give her fans exactly what they want. And when I hear about her doing these multi-hour concerns where she's dancing and singing and narrating the whole time, a dozen costume changes, etc. -- that's is honestly impressive, and that she has done it again and again and the tour has gotten the reviews it's gotten... she's earned it.

The woman is a professional with more work ethic than I will ever have. I won't take that away from her and I wouldn't mind if my DD became a huge fan of her even if I think her music is only so-so. I loved Madonna as a kid and my parents didn't get that either.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree she's never dated anyone that great, which I think is something that happens to very successful women often, for a lot of reasons.

One reason I don't see them getting married and having kids is that what would that even look like? It is so, so hard to do her job with kids. Especially to do it the way she does it.

Like look at the people around them with kids. They mostly have at least one person who is either a SAHM or has the kind of career where taking time off to be with young kids is okay. Blake Lively has taken a step back from acting, so did Sophie Turner. Kylie Kelce and Brittany Mahomes sort of work but a huge part of their job is just the kids and supporting their husbands. A lot of their friends don't have kids despite being in the age range where people are most likely to do that. I just do not see Taylor doing what any of those women have done.

At the same time, I don't see Travis being the one who puts his career on the back burner to have kids. He is obviously chomping at the bit to launch an entertainment career, and the window between NFL retirement and losing the goodwill/fame/interest that would make that possible will be narrow, I think. I don't think he's going to be content to do the occasion broadcasting gig while trailing after Taylor on tour or being the primary parent while she's recording or promoting.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced it's even a real relationship, but even if it is, I don't see it lasting. It's worked thus far because the timing has allowed her to play WAG during a big season for him. That ends in 2 weeks and I don't see her backburnering anything to put him first, or vice versa.

Sorry this is off-topic, but Blake has four kids and an army of nannies. Period. When you see Blake dressed up on a night out with Taylor, she didn’t just put down the sippy cup and throw on that dress. A team of hair and make up people came to our house hours before and helped her get ready. That itself is a job. It is time away from the kids. I’m certainly not criticizing her for it but it is what it is. She acts pretty regularly, and she has a business - the Betty buzz thing - and she does a ton of side projects that let her showcase her baking and cooking skills that she has monetized. She is also at many fashion and industry events - which take a lot of planning and prep.

Sorry for the interruption but Blake and Ryan HUSTLE and they have somehow crafted this opposite image.

Betty Buzz is Ryan's business, she just did single branded offering within it. And yes, I am sure she's got a million nannies and is not actually SAHMing. But no, she is not acting a ton -- she's made 2 movies since 2018 and is in production on a 3rd. That's a light schedule for an actor and includes entire years where she did not work at all. She does charitable stuff and fashion stuff, I'm not saying she doesn't "hustle."

But is she focused on her career the way Taylor is? Absolutely not. So while Taylor has made a billion dollars and released album after album including her remastered versions, toured, won tons of Grammys, and become a cultural juggernaut, Lively is a sometimes-actress who is better known at this point for being Ryan Reynold's wife, having a lot of kids, and being on the original Gossip Girl. There is nothing wrong with any of that -- I'd personally rather have Blake's life than Taylor's because I'm not ambitious and it sounds more chill and fun.

But I don't think Taylor wants that life. She is incredibly ambitious. She is not going to go part-time the way Blake has.

I agree with you about Blake being less career focused but don’t agree She is less obsessed with her image than taylor. In fact, I believe she may be even more obsessed with image than Taylor.

Taylor loves the craft of songwriting and performing- and yes the celeb stuff that comes with it- Blake just seems to enjoy being a famous wife and fashionista and is it in for the pap walks. The crappy and sparse acting jobs are just the price she has to pay to do her real job of performing for the paps and being recognized as having an A list husband and being told on instagram how hot she is or how great her taste is.

So crazy to me people think she is chill and less ambitious. It just couldn’t be further from the truth. She’s just after a different outcome.

I don't think SHE is chill. I think her life is chill. I absolutely think Blake Lively spends like 90% of her life shopping/hanging with friends/hanging with family.

But she doesn’t. Because she spends a lot of time preparing to look good for those things and that is really itself a job. She crafts her image. It seems exhausting and the opposite of a chill life.

What fascinates me about the discussion differences on DCUM between Blake and Taylor is that people seem to accept Blake because she just dabbles in everything but shes not trying to be super successful or anything.

We accept that she has a business because it’s really Ryan’s business as someone pointed out. She’s super rich but a lot of it is his money. She does a little bit of acting, but not much. She dabbles in fashion, but isn't trying to dominate. It’s very acceptable that she’s a mom and a wife. we like that she works but she doesn’t work too much.

Taylor, on the other hand is just too much of everything. She doesn’t do music she dominates it. She isn’t just a businesswoman she is THE business woman. She’s also not a mom and she’s wasting her good eggs…or something.

Blake loves attention and her hamming it up at the game, girls night out, etc. is just as ridiculous and to me seems MORE desperate than Taylor but no one criticizes her for all the above reasons.

I disagree. I think Taylor’s business is really her parents. Her parents announced their marriage like it was a stock deal. (I’m sure it was “funny” to them, but it still speaks volumes). Her parents are the ones who monetized her. She knows nothing else and goes along with it. She vaguely feels this is strange, but has no clue how to take control of this at this point and is still living as the dreams of her parents rather than just the life she wants. (See anti-hero)

At this point it’s Taylor. She loves performing and she loves writing songs. Read interviews with any musical icon she has worked with, and they will all say the same thing, they are blown away by her work ethic.

I have no doubt it started with her parents when she was a child but now she is clearly driven by something and it seems separate from money.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree she's never dated anyone that great, which I think is something that happens to very successful women often, for a lot of reasons.

One reason I don't see them getting married and having kids is that what would that even look like? It is so, so hard to do her job with kids. Especially to do it the way she does it.

Like look at the people around them with kids. They mostly have at least one person who is either a SAHM or has the kind of career where taking time off to be with young kids is okay. Blake Lively has taken a step back from acting, so did Sophie Turner. Kylie Kelce and Brittany Mahomes sort of work but a huge part of their job is just the kids and supporting their husbands. A lot of their friends don't have kids despite being in the age range where people are most likely to do that. I just do not see Taylor doing what any of those women have done.

At the same time, I don't see Travis being the one who puts his career on the back burner to have kids. He is obviously chomping at the bit to launch an entertainment career, and the window between NFL retirement and losing the goodwill/fame/interest that would make that possible will be narrow, I think. I don't think he's going to be content to do the occasion broadcasting gig while trailing after Taylor on tour or being the primary parent while she's recording or promoting.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced it's even a real relationship, but even if it is, I don't see it lasting. It's worked thus far because the timing has allowed her to play WAG during a big season for him. That ends in 2 weeks and I don't see her backburnering anything to put him first, or vice versa.

Sorry this is off-topic, but Blake has four kids and an army of nannies. Period. When you see Blake dressed up on a night out with Taylor, she didn’t just put down the sippy cup and throw on that dress. A team of hair and make up people came to our house hours before and helped her get ready. That itself is a job. It is time away from the kids. I’m certainly not criticizing her for it but it is what it is. She acts pretty regularly, and she has a business - the Betty buzz thing - and she does a ton of side projects that let her showcase her baking and cooking skills that she has monetized. She is also at many fashion and industry events - which take a lot of planning and prep.

Sorry for the interruption but Blake and Ryan HUSTLE and they have somehow crafted this opposite image.

Betty Buzz is Ryan's business, she just did single branded offering within it. And yes, I am sure she's got a million nannies and is not actually SAHMing. But no, she is not acting a ton -- she's made 2 movies since 2018 and is in production on a 3rd. That's a light schedule for an actor and includes entire years where she did not work at all. She does charitable stuff and fashion stuff, I'm not saying she doesn't "hustle."

But is she focused on her career the way Taylor is? Absolutely not. So while Taylor has made a billion dollars and released album after album including her remastered versions, toured, won tons of Grammys, and become a cultural juggernaut, Lively is a sometimes-actress who is better known at this point for being Ryan Reynold's wife, having a lot of kids, and being on the original Gossip Girl. There is nothing wrong with any of that -- I'd personally rather have Blake's life than Taylor's because I'm not ambitious and it sounds more chill and fun.

But I don't think Taylor wants that life. She is incredibly ambitious. She is not going to go part-time the way Blake has.

I agree with you about Blake being less career focused but don’t agree She is less obsessed with her image than taylor. In fact, I believe she may be even more obsessed with image than Taylor.

Taylor loves the craft of songwriting and performing- and yes the celeb stuff that comes with it- Blake just seems to enjoy being a famous wife and fashionista and is it in for the pap walks. The crappy and sparse acting jobs are just the price she has to pay to do her real job of performing for the paps and being recognized as having an A list husband and being told on instagram how hot she is or how great her taste is.

So crazy to me people think she is chill and less ambitious. It just couldn’t be further from the truth. She’s just after a different outcome.

I don't think SHE is chill. I think her life is chill. I absolutely think Blake Lively spends like 90% of her life shopping/hanging with friends/hanging with family.

But she doesn’t. Because she spends a lot of time preparing to look good for those things and that is really itself a job. She crafts her image. It seems exhausting and the opposite of a chill life.

What fascinates me about the discussion differences on DCUM between Blake and Taylor is that people seem to accept Blake because she just dabbles in everything but shes not trying to be super successful or anything.

We accept that she has a business because it’s really Ryan’s business as someone pointed out. She’s super rich but a lot of it is his money. She does a little bit of acting, but not much. She dabbles in fashion, but isn't trying to dominate. It’s very acceptable that she’s a mom and a wife. we like that she works but she doesn’t work too much.

Taylor, on the other hand is just too much of everything. She doesn’t do music she dominates it. She isn’t just a businesswoman she is THE business woman. She’s also not a mom and she’s wasting her good eggs…or something.

Blake loves attention and her hamming it up at the game, girls night out, etc. is just as ridiculous and to me seems MORE desperate than Taylor but no one criticizes her for all the above reasons.

Blake doesn't go out often enough for "looking good" to be that time consuming. It's not like she's going to events 4 days a week. She might do one major event a month (probably less sometimes, more others, depending on the season or whether she or Ryan is promoting something) and then yeah, she'll be spotted out having dinner with friends or whatever. But while getting ready for a major event might take hours, getting ready for a night where she might be photographed by paparazzi does not, even if she might have hair/makeup done and wear a stylist-selected outfit. But it is not an all day event. And there are lots of days where she's not going out at all and there is no "getting ready." She is not at a stage in her career where she's going to every store opening or product launch just to get her name in magazines. She is spending a LOT of time just doing what she wants.

Chrissy Teigan is another one in this category. Sure, she works sometimes. There may be times when she is very busy and putting a lot of effort into getting ready for events, like when she's launching a product or when her husband has the Grammys or the Inauguration or something. But she's spending an enormous amount of time just doing what she wants.

These women are essentially "ladies of leisure." We live in a time when it's considered bad form to have no job at all, and as celebrities these people can make some easy number by doing branded collaborations, or can burnish their reps by doing some work with a nonprofit or arts organization. But do these women really "work" in the sense that Taylor does? No, the do not.

You obviously don’t follow Blake. It it might be one major industry event a month, but it’s constant going out and being seen in full hair and make up, doing side projects with different chefs and bakers, showcasing jewelry, etc. And it’s constant posting and promoting her marriage. The couple spends 75K a month to pay a team to do their social banter.

The reason it doesn’t bother me with Taylor is because at least she owns it, it’s about the music, power, success, whatever. Blake is trying to sell me on her marriage and fairy tale life.

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Anonymous wrote:They seemed so happy together after he won on Sunday. I just don't give a crap about the rest of this analysis. I see two people who seem genuinely happy to be together, seem genuinely happy to support one another (who honestly gives two craps about what she's wearing to a game). There's way too much "let's analyze every aspect of this relationship about two people who we'll never meet." Just stop already. They're giving us nuggets of happiness, why second guess it? When/if they break up, fine, but for now they're happy with each other. (What "fake" girlfriend flies from Japan for a game. That woman would do nothing to jeopardize her tour, no way would she do that unless she absolutely wanted to.)

Uh, one who has a private jet and likely would have jetted off to her next engagement after that show anyway. She's not hoofing it out to Haneda and flying standby, lol.

Where are all the young people screaming about carbon footprints?

I’m just impressed that Taylor managed to convince so many right wingers that human-caused climate change is real. They were in denial for so long.

Nah. It's more about the hypocrisy.

I don’t recall Taylor talking about climate change. Leo DiCaprio is definitely a hypocrite when he flies private and lectures us on global warming. But Taylor has been silent on the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree she's never dated anyone that great, which I think is something that happens to very successful women often, for a lot of reasons.

One reason I don't see them getting married and having kids is that what would that even look like? It is so, so hard to do her job with kids. Especially to do it the way she does it.

Like look at the people around them with kids. They mostly have at least one person who is either a SAHM or has the kind of career where taking time off to be with young kids is okay. Blake Lively has taken a step back from acting, so did Sophie Turner. Kylie Kelce and Brittany Mahomes sort of work but a huge part of their job is just the kids and supporting their husbands. A lot of their friends don't have kids despite being in the age range where people are most likely to do that. I just do not see Taylor doing what any of those women have done.

At the same time, I don't see Travis being the one who puts his career on the back burner to have kids. He is obviously chomping at the bit to launch an entertainment career, and the window between NFL retirement and losing the goodwill/fame/interest that would make that possible will be narrow, I think. I don't think he's going to be content to do the occasion broadcasting gig while trailing after Taylor on tour or being the primary parent while she's recording or promoting.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced it's even a real relationship, but even if it is, I don't see it lasting. It's worked thus far because the timing has allowed her to play WAG during a big season for him. That ends in 2 weeks and I don't see her backburnering anything to put him first, or vice versa.

Sorry this is off-topic, but Blake has four kids and an army of nannies. Period. When you see Blake dressed up on a night out with Taylor, she didn’t just put down the sippy cup and throw on that dress. A team of hair and make up people came to our house hours before and helped her get ready. That itself is a job. It is time away from the kids. I’m certainly not criticizing her for it but it is what it is. She acts pretty regularly, and she has a business - the Betty buzz thing - and she does a ton of side projects that let her showcase her baking and cooking skills that she has monetized. She is also at many fashion and industry events - which take a lot of planning and prep.

Sorry for the interruption but Blake and Ryan HUSTLE and they have somehow crafted this opposite image.

Betty Buzz is Ryan's business, she just did single branded offering within it. And yes, I am sure she's got a million nannies and is not actually SAHMing. But no, she is not acting a ton -- she's made 2 movies since 2018 and is in production on a 3rd. That's a light schedule for an actor and includes entire years where she did not work at all. She does charitable stuff and fashion stuff, I'm not saying she doesn't "hustle."

But is she focused on her career the way Taylor is? Absolutely not. So while Taylor has made a billion dollars and released album after album including her remastered versions, toured, won tons of Grammys, and become a cultural juggernaut, Lively is a sometimes-actress who is better known at this point for being Ryan Reynold's wife, having a lot of kids, and being on the original Gossip Girl. There is nothing wrong with any of that -- I'd personally rather have Blake's life than Taylor's because I'm not ambitious and it sounds more chill and fun.

But I don't think Taylor wants that life. She is incredibly ambitious. She is not going to go part-time the way Blake has.

I agree with you about Blake being less career focused but don’t agree She is less obsessed with her image than taylor. In fact, I believe she may be even more obsessed with image than Taylor.

Taylor loves the craft of songwriting and performing- and yes the celeb stuff that comes with it- Blake just seems to enjoy being a famous wife and fashionista and is it in for the pap walks. The crappy and sparse acting jobs are just the price she has to pay to do her real job of performing for the paps and being recognized as having an A list husband and being told on instagram how hot she is or how great her taste is.

So crazy to me people think she is chill and less ambitious. It just couldn’t be further from the truth. She’s just after a different outcome.

I don't think SHE is chill. I think her life is chill. I absolutely think Blake Lively spends like 90% of her life shopping/hanging with friends/hanging with family.

But she doesn’t. Because she spends a lot of time preparing to look good for those things and that is really itself a job. She crafts her image. It seems exhausting and the opposite of a chill life.

What fascinates me about the discussion differences on DCUM between Blake and Taylor is that people seem to accept Blake because she just dabbles in everything but shes not trying to be super successful or anything.

We accept that she has a business because it’s really Ryan’s business as someone pointed out. She’s super rich but a lot of it is his money. She does a little bit of acting, but not much. She dabbles in fashion, but isn't trying to dominate. It’s very acceptable that she’s a mom and a wife. we like that she works but she doesn’t work too much.

Taylor, on the other hand is just too much of everything. She doesn’t do music she dominates it. She isn’t just a businesswoman she is THE business woman. She’s also not a mom and she’s wasting her good eggs…or something.

Blake loves attention and her hamming it up at the game, girls night out, etc. is just as ridiculous and to me seems MORE desperate than Taylor but no one criticizes her for all the above reasons.

I disagree. I think Taylor’s business is really her parents. Her parents announced their marriage like it was a stock deal. (I’m sure it was “funny” to them, but it still speaks volumes). Her parents are the ones who monetized her. She knows nothing else and goes along with it. She vaguely feels this is strange, but has no clue how to take control of this at this point and is still living as the dreams of her parents rather than just the life she wants. (See anti-hero)

At this point it’s Taylor. She loves performing and she loves writing songs. Read interviews with any musical icon she has worked with, and they will all say the same thing, they are blown away by her work ethic.

I have no doubt it started with her parents when she was a child but now she is clearly driven by something and it seems separate from money.

I don’t think she has been given the space to even know what she loves, so she works and tries to please. I’m mostly bothered that this is seen as a role model for girls: going along with your parent’s ideas until it becomes your persona and you don’t know what you want other than to be approved of by other girls, men and your mom and dad.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree she's never dated anyone that great, which I think is something that happens to very successful women often, for a lot of reasons.

One reason I don't see them getting married and having kids is that what would that even look like? It is so, so hard to do her job with kids. Especially to do it the way she does it.

Like look at the people around them with kids. They mostly have at least one person who is either a SAHM or has the kind of career where taking time off to be with young kids is okay. Blake Lively has taken a step back from acting, so did Sophie Turner. Kylie Kelce and Brittany Mahomes sort of work but a huge part of their job is just the kids and supporting their husbands. A lot of their friends don't have kids despite being in the age range where people are most likely to do that. I just do not see Taylor doing what any of those women have done.

At the same time, I don't see Travis being the one who puts his career on the back burner to have kids. He is obviously chomping at the bit to launch an entertainment career, and the window between NFL retirement and losing the goodwill/fame/interest that would make that possible will be narrow, I think. I don't think he's going to be content to do the occasion broadcasting gig while trailing after Taylor on tour or being the primary parent while she's recording or promoting.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced it's even a real relationship, but even if it is, I don't see it lasting. It's worked thus far because the timing has allowed her to play WAG during a big season for him. That ends in 2 weeks and I don't see her backburnering anything to put him first, or vice versa.

Sorry this is off-topic, but Blake has four kids and an army of nannies. Period. When you see Blake dressed up on a night out with Taylor, she didn’t just put down the sippy cup and throw on that dress. A team of hair and make up people came to our house hours before and helped her get ready. That itself is a job. It is time away from the kids. I’m certainly not criticizing her for it but it is what it is. She acts pretty regularly, and she has a business - the Betty buzz thing - and she does a ton of side projects that let her showcase her baking and cooking skills that she has monetized. She is also at many fashion and industry events - which take a lot of planning and prep.

Sorry for the interruption but Blake and Ryan HUSTLE and they have somehow crafted this opposite image.

Betty Buzz is Ryan's business, she just did single branded offering within it. And yes, I am sure she's got a million nannies and is not actually SAHMing. But no, she is not acting a ton -- she's made 2 movies since 2018 and is in production on a 3rd. That's a light schedule for an actor and includes entire years where she did not work at all. She does charitable stuff and fashion stuff, I'm not saying she doesn't "hustle."

But is she focused on her career the way Taylor is? Absolutely not. So while Taylor has made a billion dollars and released album after album including her remastered versions, toured, won tons of Grammys, and become a cultural juggernaut, Lively is a sometimes-actress who is better known at this point for being Ryan Reynold's wife, having a lot of kids, and being on the original Gossip Girl. There is nothing wrong with any of that -- I'd personally rather have Blake's life than Taylor's because I'm not ambitious and it sounds more chill and fun.

But I don't think Taylor wants that life. She is incredibly ambitious. She is not going to go part-time the way Blake has.

I agree with you about Blake being less career focused but don’t agree She is less obsessed with her image than taylor. In fact, I believe she may be even more obsessed with image than Taylor.

Taylor loves the craft of songwriting and performing- and yes the celeb stuff that comes with it- Blake just seems to enjoy being a famous wife and fashionista and is it in for the pap walks. The crappy and sparse acting jobs are just the price she has to pay to do her real job of performing for the paps and being recognized as having an A list husband and being told on instagram how hot she is or how great her taste is.

So crazy to me people think she is chill and less ambitious. It just couldn’t be further from the truth. She’s just after a different outcome.

I don't think SHE is chill. I think her life is chill. I absolutely think Blake Lively spends like 90% of her life shopping/hanging with friends/hanging with family.

But she doesn’t. Because she spends a lot of time preparing to look good for those things and that is really itself a job. She crafts her image. It seems exhausting and the opposite of a chill life.

What fascinates me about the discussion differences on DCUM between Blake and Taylor is that people seem to accept Blake because she just dabbles in everything but shes not trying to be super successful or anything.

We accept that she has a business because it’s really Ryan’s business as someone pointed out. She’s super rich but a lot of it is his money. She does a little bit of acting, but not much. She dabbles in fashion, but isn't trying to dominate. It’s very acceptable that she’s a mom and a wife. we like that she works but she doesn’t work too much.

Taylor, on the other hand is just too much of everything. She doesn’t do music she dominates it. She isn’t just a businesswoman she is THE business woman. She’s also not a mom and she’s wasting her good eggs…or something.

Blake loves attention and her hamming it up at the game, girls night out, etc. is just as ridiculous and to me seems MORE desperate than Taylor but no one criticizes her for all the above reasons.

Blake doesn't go out often enough for "looking good" to be that time consuming. It's not like she's going to events 4 days a week. She might do one major event a month (probably less sometimes, more others, depending on the season or whether she or Ryan is promoting something) and then yeah, she'll be spotted out having dinner with friends or whatever. But while getting ready for a major event might take hours, getting ready for a night where she might be photographed by paparazzi does not, even if she might have hair/makeup done and wear a stylist-selected outfit. But it is not an all day event. And there are lots of days where she's not going out at all and there is no "getting ready." She is not at a stage in her career where she's going to every store opening or product launch just to get her name in magazines. She is spending a LOT of time just doing what she wants.

Chrissy Teigan is another one in this category. Sure, she works sometimes. There may be times when she is very busy and putting a lot of effort into getting ready for events, like when she's launching a product or when her husband has the Grammys or the Inauguration or something. But she's spending an enormous amount of time just doing what she wants.

These women are essentially "ladies of leisure." We live in a time when it's considered bad form to have no job at all, and as celebrities these people can make some easy number by doing branded collaborations, or can burnish their reps by doing some work with a nonprofit or arts organization. But do these women really "work" in the sense that Taylor does? No, the do not.

You obviously don’t follow Blake. It it might be one major industry event a month, but it’s constant going out and being seen in full hair and make up, doing side projects with different chefs and bakers, showcasing jewelry, etc. And it’s constant posting and promoting her marriage. The couple spends 75K a month to pay a team to do their social banter.

The reason it doesn’t bother me with Taylor is because at least she owns it, it’s about the music, power, success, whatever. Blake is trying to sell me on her marriage and fairy tale life.

It's not. I'm sorry it's just not. Note the couple spends 75k a month to have someone else do their social media? Well part of that is giving the impression of doing a lot. Ryan might be because he's working waaaaay more plus has like 14 business ventures. Lively does not.

I'm not saying she never works. She filmed a movie in the fall and she's the lead so I'm sure that was a lot of work and long days. But like I said, she's only done 3 movies in 7 years. She is not going out in full hair and makeup every day. Those "side projects"? They will film in an afternoon and then push out on social media over the course of weeks or months. Same with her stuff for Betty Buzz. It might give the impression of her doing something every day but the truth is she knocked out a bunch of photo shoots/ads at once and then her team unrolls them for her.

Also, I just looked at her Instagram and she didn't even post in January. Even though her movie is in post-production. Maybe she posted stuff on Stories but right now her only Story is an ad for Betty Buzz that I'm sure a staffer put up and required zero work on her part. If you flip through her account, there are often months where she posts nothing. The photos from "big nights" are pretty few and far between. She's not spending 8 hours getting ready for America Ferrera's birthday party. She. Is. Not. Busy.

Again, Chrissy Teigan is doing this too. They pay people to make it look like they are super busy and doing things because part of their image is of being "business women" who are busy and producing stuff. But they aren't really doing that much.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree she's never dated anyone that great, which I think is something that happens to very successful women often, for a lot of reasons.

One reason I don't see them getting married and having kids is that what would that even look like? It is so, so hard to do her job with kids. Especially to do it the way she does it.

Like look at the people around them with kids. They mostly have at least one person who is either a SAHM or has the kind of career where taking time off to be with young kids is okay. Blake Lively has taken a step back from acting, so did Sophie Turner. Kylie Kelce and Brittany Mahomes sort of work but a huge part of their job is just the kids and supporting their husbands. A lot of their friends don't have kids despite being in the age range where people are most likely to do that. I just do not see Taylor doing what any of those women have done.

At the same time, I don't see Travis being the one who puts his career on the back burner to have kids. He is obviously chomping at the bit to launch an entertainment career, and the window between NFL retirement and losing the goodwill/fame/interest that would make that possible will be narrow, I think. I don't think he's going to be content to do the occasion broadcasting gig while trailing after Taylor on tour or being the primary parent while she's recording or promoting.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced it's even a real relationship, but even if it is, I don't see it lasting. It's worked thus far because the timing has allowed her to play WAG during a big season for him. That ends in 2 weeks and I don't see her backburnering anything to put him first, or vice versa.

Sorry this is off-topic, but Blake has four kids and an army of nannies. Period. When you see Blake dressed up on a night out with Taylor, she didn’t just put down the sippy cup and throw on that dress. A team of hair and make up people came to our house hours before and helped her get ready. That itself is a job. It is time away from the kids. I’m certainly not criticizing her for it but it is what it is. She acts pretty regularly, and she has a business - the Betty buzz thing - and she does a ton of side projects that let her showcase her baking and cooking skills that she has monetized. She is also at many fashion and industry events - which take a lot of planning and prep.

Sorry for the interruption but Blake and Ryan HUSTLE and they have somehow crafted this opposite image.

Betty Buzz is Ryan's business, she just did single branded offering within it. And yes, I am sure she's got a million nannies and is not actually SAHMing. But no, she is not acting a ton -- she's made 2 movies since 2018 and is in production on a 3rd. That's a light schedule for an actor and includes entire years where she did not work at all. She does charitable stuff and fashion stuff, I'm not saying she doesn't "hustle."

But is she focused on her career the way Taylor is? Absolutely not. So while Taylor has made a billion dollars and released album after album including her remastered versions, toured, won tons of Grammys, and become a cultural juggernaut, Lively is a sometimes-actress who is better known at this point for being Ryan Reynold's wife, having a lot of kids, and being on the original Gossip Girl. There is nothing wrong with any of that -- I'd personally rather have Blake's life than Taylor's because I'm not ambitious and it sounds more chill and fun.

But I don't think Taylor wants that life. She is incredibly ambitious. She is not going to go part-time the way Blake has.

I agree with you about Blake being less career focused but don’t agree She is less obsessed with her image than taylor. In fact, I believe she may be even more obsessed with image than Taylor.

Taylor loves the craft of songwriting and performing- and yes the celeb stuff that comes with it- Blake just seems to enjoy being a famous wife and fashionista and is it in for the pap walks. The crappy and sparse acting jobs are just the price she has to pay to do her real job of performing for the paps and being recognized as having an A list husband and being told on instagram how hot she is or how great her taste is.

So crazy to me people think she is chill and less ambitious. It just couldn’t be further from the truth. She’s just after a different outcome.

I don't think SHE is chill. I think her life is chill. I absolutely think Blake Lively spends like 90% of her life shopping/hanging with friends/hanging with family.

But she doesn’t. Because she spends a lot of time preparing to look good for those things and that is really itself a job. She crafts her image. It seems exhausting and the opposite of a chill life.

What fascinates me about the discussion differences on DCUM between Blake and Taylor is that people seem to accept Blake because she just dabbles in everything but shes not trying to be super successful or anything.

We accept that she has a business because it’s really Ryan’s business as someone pointed out. She’s super rich but a lot of it is his money. She does a little bit of acting, but not much. She dabbles in fashion, but isn't trying to dominate. It’s very acceptable that she’s a mom and a wife. we like that she works but she doesn’t work too much.

Taylor, on the other hand is just too much of everything. She doesn’t do music she dominates it. She isn’t just a businesswoman she is THE business woman. She’s also not a mom and she’s wasting her good eggs…or something.

Blake loves attention and her hamming it up at the game, girls night out, etc. is just as ridiculous and to me seems MORE desperate than Taylor but no one criticizes her for all the above reasons.

I disagree. I think Taylor’s business is really her parents. Her parents announced their marriage like it was a stock deal. (I’m sure it was “funny” to them, but it still speaks volumes). Her parents are the ones who monetized her. She knows nothing else and goes along with it. She vaguely feels this is strange, but has no clue how to take control of this at this point and is still living as the dreams of her parents rather than just the life she wants. (See anti-hero)

At this point it’s Taylor. She loves performing and she loves writing songs. Read interviews with any musical icon she has worked with, and they will all say the same thing, they are blown away by her work ethic.

I have no doubt it started with her parents when she was a child but now she is clearly driven by something and it seems separate from money.

I don’t think she has been given the space to even know what she loves, so she works and tries to please. I’m mostly bothered that this is seen as a role model for girls: going along with your parent’s ideas until it becomes your persona and you don’t know what you want other than to be approved of by other girls, men and your mom and dad.

Taylor is a business woman who has done quite well in a mans world. Some of her music deals are amazing.
Taylor is human and does lovely thing for people in need. Huricane Katrina she gave cash and actually helped.
Taylor is a human business woman who treats her employees well.

You are not a role model for your daughter how ever Taylor is.

Seriously you are a complete and utter idiot.

Who do you want your daughters to emulate Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Nicki Haley, Ginni Thomas?