Fascinating article about how a Loudoun County dad/MIT alum/organizational specialist was interested in improving performance metrics for schools/teachers and ended up FOIA requesting what is called the "student growth percentile" data - a measure that shows how much kids improve year to year on tests rather than just absolute scores. The problem is teachers wanted to maintain status quo - didn't want this data released - so they could continue claim good performance at high-SES schools (obviously an easy job, doesn't necessariy reflect on the teacher's performance) or blame poor performance at low-SES schools on class and race disparities rather than teaching quality. Loudoun Country Public Schools tried a number of tactics to resist his FOIA request - attempting to have him arrested and contacting CPS with zero proof of child abuse. Eventually in 2016, he was awarded 35k in a suit against LCPS and LCPS was ordered to release the data. Not sure if this story would deter parents from FOIA requesting SWW or inspire... https://nypost.com/2022/03/06/how-a-dad-became-teachers-enemy-1-to-teachers-in-loudoun-county/ |
Good for you--I will provide some tips in the coming weeks. I have submitted successful FOIA requests in the past. |
OP...Damn! This is a bit extreme. Sound like the Mob. School systems are masters at hiding and manipulating data. That data is also the crux of funding. So not surprised with the fight but going personal is another level. |
What is your focus--Walls only or the selective high school process in general? |
FWIW, in terms of FOIA strategy, narrow is better (and faster). If you ask for the general guidelines for the selective high school process, they will just send the (already publicly available) information on how that process works (i.e., https://www.myschooldc.org/how-apply/applying-high-school) and other documents about this process (which is already pretty transparent--you don't need more documents/emails about this). To the extent each of the selective schools has individual selection criteria, they will then have to search those records independently for more details...that will increase the amount of time it takes. If you're only interested in Walls, just focus on Walls. If you're interested in other selective schools, submit separate FOIAs for each school. |
So the hard working kids bright enough to compete at Walls should continue to be punished because they are cursed with failing public ES and MS? Many capable students have long since bailed for challenge at charters that do not systematically fail them. Equity seats could include the same 8th grade level test but ensure those students have a chance. I'm not worried about equity seats at Walls or anywhere else -- they should get the non-equity seats right for a so-called competitive school. They screened out many more applicants from the test than current GPA cutoff/brief interview. They didn't get any more diversity with the current system than previous test, including no representation from Wards 7/8. |
No, hardworking bright kids should have opportunities to to learn the skills they need. But saying the measuring stick is wrong because disadvantaged kids measure poorly is not helping anyone. |
The irony of this is pretty funny as DCUM lives and dies by STAR ratings and test scores of schools, which is based on proficiency and not growth |
This is actually not correct. The STAR ratings are heavily focused on year-to-year growth. Of course that creates its own problems, because it only looks at one year so a huge leap followed by a slight correction is much worse than no growth over 2 years... which is insane. |
Different poster here - I will "yes and" you to say that I'm also not sure I've ever seen someone on DCUM outside of a clueless rising PK3 parent reference a school's STAR rating. Much more focused on arbitrary but organically-grown designations like "JKLM" and "HRCS." |
Do the work, get an A exactly. There are a lot of those kids. But it would not be fair for a DCPS magnet school to run a placement test on no DCPS material. And is why I think if the GPA is a honest reflection the test is superfluous. But I think upper income people want that so they can send their kid off to test practice on Sunday afternoons. |
I am quire sure DCPS makes this information public, I saw a Harvard education academic do some analysis on this data a few years back, Ask OSSE. |
But you are moving on right? Your kids needs to go to school... And your kids not going to Walls is not going to destroy the school, they school will be fine with all their straight A students. |
Wow. Among other superlatives, this may be the best reported and written story I have ever read from the NYPost. |
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