All schools should offer an all-virtual option

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Anonymous wrote:Minimizing childhood Covid in the US—a play in 4 acts

Act 1 “Kids don’t get Covid”
Act 2 “Kids get Covid but don’t get ill”
Act 3 “Kids die from Covid but don’t worry, only kids with pre-existing conditions die”
Act 4 “Don’t worry, kids also die from drowning or car crashes”

zero covid deaths of kids in DC and MoCo. the understanding of covid and kids has been really pretty stable all along - taking into account, of course, the quickly changing landscape. there are certainly still some questions related to Delta, but the underlying assessment seems to be true especially wrt schools.

Four dead kids in Maryland. And counting. How many dead kids are acceptable to you?

I mean, this is going to sound callous, but if kids have died of Covid in the last 16+ months, those seem like acceptable odds.

Obviously any child death is horrible, but it doesn't sound like closing schools is the prevention measure. Maryland closed schools last year, aside from a few months in the Spring, and have been closed over summer (aside from limited summer school). So these four deaths are tragic but they were very unlikely to have arisen from schools.

You seem to be missing the point that Delta hasn’t hit us yet and we’re about to send kids into packed massless cafeterias right when it does.

cheesus - I don't expect them to do that. My worst-case scenario is classroom lunch, because it will cause a lot of spread. Cafeterias at peak unvax delta is more horror movie scenario that will never happen in real life.

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Anonymous wrote:Minimizing childhood Covid in the US—a play in 4 acts

Act 1 “Kids don’t get Covid”
Act 2 “Kids get Covid but don’t get ill”
Act 3 “Kids die from Covid but don’t worry, only kids with pre-existing conditions die”
Act 4 “Don’t worry, kids also die from drowning or car crashes”

zero covid deaths of kids in DC and MoCo. the understanding of covid and kids has been really pretty stable all along - taking into account, of course, the quickly changing landscape. there are certainly still some questions related to Delta, but the underlying assessment seems to be true especially wrt schools.

Four dead kids in Maryland. And counting. How many dead kids are acceptable to you?

I mean, this is going to sound callous, but if kids have died of Covid in the last 16+ months, those seem like acceptable odds.

Obviously any child death is horrible, but it doesn't sound like closing schools is the prevention measure. Maryland closed schools last year, aside from a few months in the Spring, and have been closed over summer (aside from limited summer school). So these four deaths are tragic but they were very unlikely to have arisen from schools.

You seem to be missing the point that Delta hasn’t hit us yet and we’re about to send kids into packed massless cafeterias right when it does.

cheesus - I don't expect them to do that. My worst-case scenario is classroom lunch, because it will cause a lot of spread. Cafeterias at peak unvax delta is more horror movie scenario that will never happen in real life.

I sincerely hope you are correct. But we have heard ZERO from our school about mitigation measures (except masks, which everyone is required to do, and obviously doesn't apply to lunch). There is an "orientation" scheduled for the week before school. I would like to trust that when I show up for that orientation they will tell us about their alternative lunch plans. But I have zero confidence that they will, and then what do we do? This is what is scary right now. And I truly believe that there is a very vocal set of parents that so vehemently want schools open at any cost, that they would try to shut down even a discussion about lunch.

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Anonymous wrote:Minimizing childhood Covid in the US—a play in 4 acts

Act 1 “Kids don’t get Covid”
Act 2 “Kids get Covid but don’t get ill”
Act 3 “Kids die from Covid but don’t worry, only kids with pre-existing conditions die”
Act 4 “Don’t worry, kids also die from drowning or car crashes”

zero covid deaths of kids in DC and MoCo. the understanding of covid and kids has been really pretty stable all along - taking into account, of course, the quickly changing landscape. there are certainly still some questions related to Delta, but the underlying assessment seems to be true especially wrt schools.

Four dead kids in Maryland. And counting. How many dead kids are acceptable to you?

I mean, this is going to sound callous, but if kids have died of Covid in the last 16+ months, those seem like acceptable odds.

Obviously any child death is horrible, but it doesn't sound like closing schools is the prevention measure. Maryland closed schools last year, aside from a few months in the Spring, and have been closed over summer (aside from limited summer school). So these four deaths are tragic but they were very unlikely to have arisen from schools.

You seem to be missing the point that Delta hasn’t hit us yet and we’re about to send kids into packed massless cafeterias right when it does.

Gottlieb says we are likely 3 weeks in, and other countries peaked in 6-8.

Kids will be wearing masks most of the time in schools. I know you (or some other poster) believes that lunch is a huge problem in schools that have cafeterias. I agree that they should do lunch outside, at least for Fall (it would be so pleasant, anyway). Or they should do lunch in classrooms (although that means, I believe, more resources in terms of aides, as I think that time is necessary for teachers to do something at that time -- have their own lunch? Planning time? Idk). I do believe you should talk to your principal about your concerns. There are mitigation methods that aren't school closures.

[Anonymous]

Here's a better idea: Require all teachers and school staff to be vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a better idea: Require all teachers and school staff to be vaccinated.

How does that help at lunchtime again?

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Anonymous wrote:Minimizing childhood Covid in the US—a play in 4 acts

Act 1 “Kids don’t get Covid”
Act 2 “Kids get Covid but don’t get ill”
Act 3 “Kids die from Covid but don’t worry, only kids with pre-existing conditions die”
Act 4 “Don’t worry, kids also die from drowning or car crashes”

zero covid deaths of kids in DC and MoCo. the understanding of covid and kids has been really pretty stable all along - taking into account, of course, the quickly changing landscape. there are certainly still some questions related to Delta, but the underlying assessment seems to be true especially wrt schools.

Four dead kids in Maryland. And counting. How many dead kids are acceptable to you?

I mean, this is going to sound callous, but if kids have died of Covid in the last 16+ months, those seem like acceptable odds.

Obviously any child death is horrible, but it doesn't sound like closing schools is the prevention measure. Maryland closed schools last year, aside from a few months in the Spring, and have been closed over summer (aside from limited summer school). So these four deaths are tragic but they were very unlikely to have arisen from schools.

You seem to be missing the point that Delta hasn’t hit us yet and we’re about to send kids into packed massless cafeterias right when it does.

cheesus - I don't expect them to do that. My worst-case scenario is classroom lunch, because it will cause a lot of spread. Cafeterias at peak unvax delta is more horror movie scenario that will never happen in real life.

I sincerely hope you are correct. But we have heard ZERO from our school about mitigation measures (except masks, which everyone is required to do, and obviously doesn't apply to lunch). There is an "orientation" scheduled for the week before school. I would like to trust that when I show up for that orientation they will tell us about their alternative lunch plans. But I have zero confidence that they will, and then what do we do? This is what is scary right now. And I truly believe that there is a very vocal set of parents that so vehemently want schools open at any cost, that they would try to shut down even a discussion about lunch.

I know that getting info from some school admins is useless, but maybe try writing to them to see what they say.

Or.....maybe direct your kid(s) to sit far, far away from anyone at lunch? Or hell, try to get them some accommodation where they eat in their classroom? the pro-open parents aren't going to GTAF if your child is eating by their lonesome.

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Anonymous wrote:Minimizing childhood Covid in the US—a play in 4 acts

Act 1 “Kids don’t get Covid”
Act 2 “Kids get Covid but don’t get ill”
Act 3 “Kids die from Covid but don’t worry, only kids with pre-existing conditions die”
Act 4 “Don’t worry, kids also die from drowning or car crashes”

zero covid deaths of kids in DC and MoCo. the understanding of covid and kids has been really pretty stable all along - taking into account, of course, the quickly changing landscape. there are certainly still some questions related to Delta, but the underlying assessment seems to be true especially wrt schools.

Four dead kids in Maryland. And counting. How many dead kids are acceptable to you?

I mean, this is going to sound callous, but if kids have died of Covid in the last 16+ months, those seem like acceptable odds.

Obviously any child death is horrible, but it doesn't sound like closing schools is the prevention measure. Maryland closed schools last year, aside from a few months in the Spring, and have been closed over summer (aside from limited summer school). So these four deaths are tragic but they were very unlikely to have arisen from schools.

You seem to be missing the point that Delta hasn’t hit us yet and we’re about to send kids into packed massless cafeterias right when it does.

cheesus - I don't expect them to do that. My worst-case scenario is classroom lunch, because it will cause a lot of spread. Cafeterias at peak unvax delta is more horror movie scenario that will never happen in real life.

We still don’t have any definitive info on how the exposure quarantine process is going to work this year. With how contagious delta is, I’m expecting a lot of disruption and time away from school this fall even though I currently plan to send my kids in-person. Hopefully, we find out more soon!

[Anonymous]

I mean, you seem like a persistent person, lunch mom. It seems like you could make things happen if you chose a different path from the entirety of the school changing or closing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a better idea: Require all teachers and school staff to be vaccinated.

How does that help at lunchtime again?

Well, there will be a whole hell of a lot less coronavirus going around in the first place.

[Anonymous]

If you want all-virtual, you should just move. Go somewhere else. School is starting in the fall and almost no one is going to be approved for any form of non-in-person school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a better idea: Require all teachers and school staff to be vaccinated.

How does that help at lunchtime again?

Well, there will be a whole hell of a lot less coronavirus going around in the first place.

Schools need to open. Teacher and staff need to vaccinate. AND they need to do something about lunch. All 3 things can be true.

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Anonymous wrote:Minimizing childhood Covid in the US—a play in 4 acts

Act 1 “Kids don’t get Covid”
Act 2 “Kids get Covid but don’t get ill”
Act 3 “Kids die from Covid but don’t worry, only kids with pre-existing conditions die”
Act 4 “Don’t worry, kids also die from drowning or car crashes”

zero covid deaths of kids in DC and MoCo. the understanding of covid and kids has been really pretty stable all along - taking into account, of course, the quickly changing landscape. there are certainly still some questions related to Delta, but the underlying assessment seems to be true especially wrt schools.

Four dead kids in Maryland. And counting. How many dead kids are acceptable to you?

I mean, this is going to sound callous, but if kids have died of Covid in the last 16+ months, those seem like acceptable odds.

Obviously any child death is horrible, but it doesn't sound like closing schools is the prevention measure. Maryland closed schools last year, aside from a few months in the Spring, and have been closed over summer (aside from limited summer school). So these four deaths are tragic but they were very unlikely to have arisen from schools.

You seem to be missing the point that Delta hasn’t hit us yet and we’re about to send kids into packed massless cafeterias right when it does.

cheesus - I don't expect them to do that. My worst-case scenario is classroom lunch, because it will cause a lot of spread. Cafeterias at peak unvax delta is more horror movie scenario that will never happen in real life.

I sincerely hope you are correct. But we have heard ZERO from our school about mitigation measures (except masks, which everyone is required to do, and obviously doesn't apply to lunch). There is an "orientation" scheduled for the week before school. I would like to trust that when I show up for that orientation they will tell us about their alternative lunch plans. But I have zero confidence that they will, and then what do we do? This is what is scary right now. And I truly believe that there is a very vocal set of parents that so vehemently want schools open at any cost, that they would try to shut down even a discussion about lunch.

So ask the school what the plan is now. They should have one already.

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Anonymous wrote:Minimizing childhood Covid in the US—a play in 4 acts

Act 1 “Kids don’t get Covid”
Act 2 “Kids get Covid but don’t get ill”
Act 3 “Kids die from Covid but don’t worry, only kids with pre-existing conditions die”
Act 4 “Don’t worry, kids also die from drowning or car crashes”

zero covid deaths of kids in DC and MoCo. the understanding of covid and kids has been really pretty stable all along - taking into account, of course, the quickly changing landscape. there are certainly still some questions related to Delta, but the underlying assessment seems to be true especially wrt schools.

Four dead kids in Maryland. And counting. How many dead kids are acceptable to you?

I mean, this is going to sound callous, but if kids have died of Covid in the last 16+ months, those seem like acceptable odds.

Obviously any child death is horrible, but it doesn't sound like closing schools is the prevention measure. Maryland closed schools last year, aside from a few months in the Spring, and have been closed over summer (aside from limited summer school). So these four deaths are tragic but they were very unlikely to have arisen from schools.

You seem to be missing the point that Delta hasn’t hit us yet and we’re about to send kids into packed massless cafeterias right when it does.

cheesus - I don't expect them to do that. My worst-case scenario is classroom lunch, because it will cause a lot of spread. Cafeterias at peak unvax delta is more horror movie scenario that will never happen in real life.

I sincerely hope you are correct. But we have heard ZERO from our school about mitigation measures (except masks, which everyone is required to do, and obviously doesn't apply to lunch). There is an "orientation" scheduled for the week before school. I would like to trust that when I show up for that orientation they will tell us about their alternative lunch plans. But I have zero confidence that they will, and then what do we do? This is what is scary right now. And I truly believe that there is a very vocal set of parents that so vehemently want schools open at any cost, that they would try to shut down even a discussion about lunch.

So ask the school what the plan is now. They should have one already.

Teacher here. My principal said he/she is waiting to find out what the policy is from central office/DOH before releasing anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Minimizing childhood Covid in the US—a play in 4 acts

Act 1 “Kids don’t get Covid”
Act 2 “Kids get Covid but don’t get ill”
Act 3 “Kids die from Covid but don’t worry, only kids with pre-existing conditions die”
Act 4 “Don’t worry, kids also die from drowning or car crashes”

zero covid deaths of kids in DC and MoCo. the understanding of covid and kids has been really pretty stable all along - taking into account, of course, the quickly changing landscape. there are certainly still some questions related to Delta, but the underlying assessment seems to be true especially wrt schools.

Four dead kids in Maryland. And counting. How many dead kids are acceptable to you?

I mean, this is going to sound callous, but if kids have died of Covid in the last 16+ months, those seem like acceptable odds.

Obviously any child death is horrible, but it doesn't sound like closing schools is the prevention measure. Maryland closed schools last year, aside from a few months in the Spring, and have been closed over summer (aside from limited summer school). So these four deaths are tragic but they were very unlikely to have arisen from schools.

You seem to be missing the point that Delta hasn’t hit us yet and we’re about to send kids into packed massless cafeterias right when it does.

cheesus - I don't expect them to do that. My worst-case scenario is classroom lunch, because it will cause a lot of spread. Cafeterias at peak unvax delta is more horror movie scenario that will never happen in real life.

I sincerely hope you are correct. But we have heard ZERO from our school about mitigation measures (except masks, which everyone is required to do, and obviously doesn't apply to lunch). There is an "orientation" scheduled for the week before school. I would like to trust that when I show up for that orientation they will tell us about their alternative lunch plans. But I have zero confidence that they will, and then what do we do? This is what is scary right now. And I truly believe that there is a very vocal set of parents that so vehemently want schools open at any cost, that they would try to shut down even a discussion about lunch.

So ask the school what the plan is now. They should have one already.

Teacher here. My principal said he/she is waiting to find out what the policy is from central office/DOH before releasing anything.

Ours too. Our school is tentatively planning on cafeteria lunch for 1st-5th graders; in class for ECE (as usual) and K (not usual). I assume the division is driven by which grades have an aide in each class. But they said they're waiting to hear from DCPS -- which they're expecting to pre-school starting -- before nailing anything down.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a better idea: Require all teachers and school staff to be vaccinated.

How does that help at lunchtime again?

Well, there will be a whole hell of a lot less coronavirus going around in the first place.

312 new cases just reported for the weekend period. Hospitalization heading up.