Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

[Anonymous]

I was wondering why Chauvin did not look for a plea deal since the fact that he murdered Floyd is beyond obvious: there is a video showing exactly what he did, with Floyd slowly chocking to death and begging for his life, bystanders begging the police to check on him and take the knee off his neck, including a white off-duty EMT woman. one of the bystanders called the police on the police, heck, even the police dispatcher called her supervisor to report what she was watching. and the testimony that Chauvin still had his knee on Floyd's neck when Floyd had no pulse. to me this would be a case where the accused tries to get the best deal possible because the trial is for sure going to go badly for him. then I come here and see the posts of people defending the cop and I understand. really shame on you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see what happens. If the police officer gets charged with murder in this case there will be very few officers willing to either choose to respond to calls or choose this as a career.

I already know a few young men (high school/college age) who were considering a career in law enforcement, but have changed their mind over the last year. This case, the one in the Wendy's drive thru in Georgia, Jacob Blake...

Too bad you guys are suckers. The Wendys drive thru guy took an officers taser and pointed it at the officer. And Jacob Blake had a knife, you tool. You have no idea what is really going on in law enforcement because all you do is watch cherry picked videos on MSNBC.

No, hon. You’re way off base. The Black guy shot dead at Wendy’s was asleep. Jacob Blake panicked (with good reason, if you ask me as White woman. Look how people defend officers shooting Black people) and ran. He had a knife in his car, not in his hand. Breonna Taylor was also shot in her bed and if you tell me that was deserved because her boyfriend pulled a guy, I will call you a fool - stand your ground, right?

The list goes on and on and on and on and on and on. You are literally insane if you do not think that the police target Black people.

Go read about Elijah Mcclain and what they did to him. He did NOTHING and was not a threat. The cops were bullies. Aurora Co has a problem. There was also a video some women took while sitting on the balcony of their apartment in Aurora. They were watching the cops try to stop an older white woman in a car. She was ignoring them and telling them no and kept driving. They gave up when a young black teenage male walked by. The ladies on their balcony who were black recorded all of this. They knew what was going to happen so they walked down to the kid. The cops then dropped trying to stop white grandma who had done something illegal and stopped this kid who was walking home from a store in his neighborhod. They started questioning him and asked him to put his stuff down like they were going to search him. The ladies told the kid to walk on and ignore them while they confronted the cops about letting the white lady go and demanding to know why they were bothering the kid. One bike cop involved litterally turned and took off when he realized they had recorded everything. The other cop backpedaled and headed out too. This is the vestigal remnants of the police force as it used to be to manage runaway slaves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

He wasn't combative. Keep trying to write the false narrative boot licker. He was anxious and afraid. You turn every black person who doesn't scrape and bow as a threat don't you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Floyd died of a heart attack. Not caused by police action.

Lying liar. Go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

Please go have a man the same stats as Chauvin kneel on your oh so healthy and drug free neck for 9 1/2 minutes and then report back. Thanks ever so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

Please go have a man the same stats as Chauvin kneel on your oh so healthy and drug free neck for 9 1/2 minutes and then report back. Thanks ever so.

And pp did you see the testimony where they watched how that murderer was moving his feet putting more pressure on Floyd's neck well after Floyd stopped moving. He isn't human and he was showing everyone watching that he was the man in control. No one tells him what to do. Why do you think he ignored the officer who said maybe they should move Floyd? Why didn't the murderer stop when the paramedics showed up and asked him to stop?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd. Floyd lost consciousness about four minutes into Chauvin’s knee on his neck. That was nearly five minutes of him kneeling on Floyd’s neck after he posed ZERO threat. None. None whatsoever. You are excusing murder. Cold blooded murder.

Have you seen the video when Chauvin first approaches Floyd’s car? If you haven’t, you should seek it out. Chauvin comes off as a racist, power-mad ashole. Murdering the guy in cold blood proves it.

I don’t really agree with the person you quoted regarding cause of death. The COD arguments we’ll see will probably be complex but under MN law Chauvin just had to substantially contribute to cause of death. Based on the autopsy, the prosecution should have a compelling case for that.

However, on the latter point, Chauvin was not on site during the original approach and arrest. Lane and Keung initially responded and are the officers on scene who enter Cup Foods and talk to manager, then approach car. They end up cuffing and searching Floyd. Floyd is sitting up against a wall on the sidewalk. They decide to put him the back of their squad car and a struggle ensues, where they call for backup. Chauvin and Thao come on scene in the midst of the squad car struggle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was wondering why Chauvin did not look for a plea deal since the fact that he murdered Floyd is beyond obvious: there is a video showing exactly what he did, with Floyd slowly chocking to death and begging for his life, bystanders begging the police to check on him and take the knee off his neck, including a white off-duty EMT woman. one of the bystanders called the police on the police, heck, even the police dispatcher called her supervisor to report what she was watching. and the testimony that Chauvin still had his knee on Floyd's neck when Floyd had no pulse. to me this would be a case where the accused tries to get the best deal possible because the trial is for sure going to go badly for him. then I come here and see the posts of people defending the cop and I understand. really shame on you.

Chauvin was going to take a plea deal early on that had been worked out with local prosecutors and would have a potential 10 year prison sentence. Part of the deal was immunity from federal charges. Barr’s office did not want to sign the deal and the deal fell through. This was the story behind an unusual press conference that had been called to announce a development in the local case, that ended up starting like two hours late and then the spokesperson appeared and said something cryptic like “we had hoped to bring you a significant development today but can’t.”

This was a huge leak prior to jury selection.

So the defense realizes there are elements in this case that made a plea deal a realistic option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

Hey, look! You don’t know anything!

[Anonymous]

I agree Chauvin did the wrong thing. But it’s still not murder.

[Anonymous]

Why again did they even pull George out of his car, escalating the situation in the first place? A claim that he gave a counterfeit bill? Is that even procedurally allowed to handcuff someone without cause, or was it a presumption based on his appearance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree Chauvin did the wrong thing. But it’s still not murder.

You need to re-exam the definition of murder.

If you "do the wrong thing", and it results in death, that is murder. Like vehicular homicide, as in Chauvin intentionally did the wrong thing. For 9 minutes, while people filmed and a dying man begged.

[Anonymous]

George died in police custody. Chauvin did nothing to assist him and continued his assault. He has a vacant soul.

[Anonymous]

Hall is pleading the fifth because of possible third degree murder charges in the future due to drugs found in the car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hall is pleading the fifth because of possible third degree murder charges in the future due to drugs found in the car.

He was a defense witness, right?