APS - why are teachers so terrified?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My concern is the "hybrid" reopening for APS isn't real. My kid is in hybrid but will only be getting 3 hours of in person instruction per week. All other instruction on in person days will be delivered virtually via her iPad. (Not concurrent, as she's K-2, but fully virtual. Teachers are refusing to teach in person so the principal has said it is okay for them to teach virtually on in person days.) It's a joke and not what parents expected or what APS is billing.

What school is this that teachers are refusing to return and principals are allowing it? I'm an APS teacher and I don't see that happening at any school where I know teachers and I know people at lots of schools.

Glebe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Histrionics. They aren’t terrified. Stop it.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame APS's piss poor planning and foresight for this. However the numbers here were high. APS wasn't wrong or the only one to remain virtual. Yes, people in Georgia and Kentucky returned sooner. That doesn't mean they should have when their numbers were higher than ours or that we were in the wrong because we didn't. COVID is a rapidly changing environment because we have been learning as we go. Remember last year when we were wiping down cereal boxes with clorox wipes? Now we know that isn't needed. We have learned and now have a vaccine.

But also all the other districts are pretty much still virtual too. Our cousins who have kids in MCPS (Potomac) upper elementary aren't returning until after spring break. My APS kid is returning next week. Same number of days. FCPS also returning on about the same schedule. APS isn't some sort of outlier in this area.

There are 6 school districts in NOVA. APS, ACPS, FCPS, FCCPS, PW, and LW.
LW has elementary back, and returns middle and high this week.
PW has elementary back and returns middle and high this week.
FCCPS returned all students last week.

FCPS, ACPS, and APS are lagging behind.

OMG - FCCPS RETURNED ONE WEEK EARLIER!!!!!!!!

You people are ridiculous.

Seriously, I can't believe people are still ranting about this- APS has a plan to get all grades back in for a hybrid model in the next 3 weeks- with the first groups starting TOMORROW!!! Chill out!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame APS's piss poor planning and foresight for this. However the numbers here were high. APS wasn't wrong or the only one to remain virtual. Yes, people in Georgia and Kentucky returned sooner. That doesn't mean they should have when their numbers were higher than ours or that we were in the wrong because we didn't. COVID is a rapidly changing environment because we have been learning as we go. Remember last year when we were wiping down cereal boxes with clorox wipes? Now we know that isn't needed. We have learned and now have a vaccine.

But also all the other districts are pretty much still virtual too. Our cousins who have kids in MCPS (Potomac) upper elementary aren't returning until after spring break. My APS kid is returning next week. Same number of days. FCPS also returning on about the same schedule. APS isn't some sort of outlier in this area.

There are 6 school districts in NOVA. APS, ACPS, FCPS, FCCPS, PW, and LW.
LW has elementary back, and returns middle and high this week.
PW has elementary back and returns middle and high this week.
FCCPS returned all students last week.

FCPS, ACPS, and APS are lagging behind.

OMG - FCCPS RETURNED ONE WEEK EARLIER!!!!!!!!

You people are ridiculous.

Seriously, I can't believe people are still ranting about this- APS has a plan to get all grades back in for a hybrid model in the next 3 weeks- with the first groups starting TOMORROW!!! Chill out!

But is it really opening? My kid is going back hybrid and all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually. It's a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame APS's piss poor planning and foresight for this. However the numbers here were high. APS wasn't wrong or the only one to remain virtual. Yes, people in Georgia and Kentucky returned sooner. That doesn't mean they should have when their numbers were higher than ours or that we were in the wrong because we didn't. COVID is a rapidly changing environment because we have been learning as we go. Remember last year when we were wiping down cereal boxes with clorox wipes? Now we know that isn't needed. We have learned and now have a vaccine.

But also all the other districts are pretty much still virtual too. Our cousins who have kids in MCPS (Potomac) upper elementary aren't returning until after spring break. My APS kid is returning next week. Same number of days. FCPS also returning on about the same schedule. APS isn't some sort of outlier in this area.

There are 6 school districts in NOVA. APS, ACPS, FCPS, FCCPS, PW, and LW.
LW has elementary back, and returns middle and high this week.
PW has elementary back and returns middle and high this week.
FCCPS returned all students last week.

FCPS, ACPS, and APS are lagging behind.

OMG - FCCPS RETURNED ONE WEEK EARLIER!!!!!!!!

You people are ridiculous.

Seriously, I can't believe people are still ranting about this- APS has a plan to get all grades back in for a hybrid model in the next 3 weeks- with the first groups starting TOMORROW!!! Chill out!

But is it really opening? My kid is going back hybrid and all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually. It's a joke.

Doors will be open, children will be there. I consider that open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame APS's piss poor planning and foresight for this. However the numbers here were high. APS wasn't wrong or the only one to remain virtual. Yes, people in Georgia and Kentucky returned sooner. That doesn't mean they should have when their numbers were higher than ours or that we were in the wrong because we didn't. COVID is a rapidly changing environment because we have been learning as we go. Remember last year when we were wiping down cereal boxes with clorox wipes? Now we know that isn't needed. We have learned and now have a vaccine.

But also all the other districts are pretty much still virtual too. Our cousins who have kids in MCPS (Potomac) upper elementary aren't returning until after spring break. My APS kid is returning next week. Same number of days. FCPS also returning on about the same schedule. APS isn't some sort of outlier in this area.

There are 6 school districts in NOVA. APS, ACPS, FCPS, FCCPS, PW, and LW.
LW has elementary back, and returns middle and high this week.
PW has elementary back and returns middle and high this week.
FCCPS returned all students last week.

FCPS, ACPS, and APS are lagging behind.

OMG - FCCPS RETURNED ONE WEEK EARLIER!!!!!!!!

You people are ridiculous.

Seriously, I can't believe people are still ranting about this- APS has a plan to get all grades back in for a hybrid model in the next 3 weeks- with the first groups starting TOMORROW!!! Chill out!

But is it really opening? My kid is going back hybrid and all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually. It's a joke.

Yes, it’s opening. It’s called hybrid and many school systems are doing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame APS's piss poor planning and foresight for this. However the numbers here were high. APS wasn't wrong or the only one to remain virtual. Yes, people in Georgia and Kentucky returned sooner. That doesn't mean they should have when their numbers were higher than ours or that we were in the wrong because we didn't. COVID is a rapidly changing environment because we have been learning as we go. Remember last year when we were wiping down cereal boxes with clorox wipes? Now we know that isn't needed. We have learned and now have a vaccine.

But also all the other districts are pretty much still virtual too. Our cousins who have kids in MCPS (Potomac) upper elementary aren't returning until after spring break. My APS kid is returning next week. Same number of days. FCPS also returning on about the same schedule. APS isn't some sort of outlier in this area.

There are 6 school districts in NOVA. APS, ACPS, FCPS, FCCPS, PW, and LW.
LW has elementary back, and returns middle and high this week.
PW has elementary back and returns middle and high this week.
FCCPS returned all students last week.

FCPS, ACPS, and APS are lagging behind.

OMG - FCCPS RETURNED ONE WEEK EARLIER!!!!!!!!

You people are ridiculous.

Seriously, I can't believe people are still ranting about this- APS has a plan to get all grades back in for a hybrid model in the next 3 weeks- with the first groups starting TOMORROW!!! Chill out!

But is it really opening? My kid is going back hybrid and all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually. It's a joke.

Yes, it’s opening. It’s called hybrid and many school systems are doing it.

Really? We've been complaining all year that virtual isn't appropriate for K-2 students. So suddenly it's appropriate if provided in a classroom? For the record, only one APS elementary school seems to be taking this position.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents just want someone to blame. COVID is to blame.
Teachers have had no power to determine when school resumed. None. We have been told when to report and we are doing it. Full stop.

I would say parents and staff actively working to APS virtual are to blame. COVID is not to blame - if it was than how come so many public schools around the country and private schools right here have been open successfully?

Most kids in the US have been virtual this year. Stop acting like that wasn’t a reasonable, precautious approach.

In the fall, the virus was running rampant and numbers were skyrocketing. 500k++ people have died FFS.

Now numbers are dropping and we have the vaccine. And guess what? WE ARE OPENING.

Not use that most kids in US have been virtual. Only 40% of had only a virtual option. 60% have had a hybrid or 5 day option all along.

At the start of the year more than half of the students only had the virtual option. 2/3rds of large school district started off 100% virtual.

Using the wonky Burbio data we now have:
1/3rd virtual only option
1/3rd hybrid option available (but some may use virtual)
1/3rd full time (but some may do virtual)

The number with virtual only is decreasing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame APS's piss poor planning and foresight for this. However the numbers here were high. APS wasn't wrong or the only one to remain virtual. Yes, people in Georgia and Kentucky returned sooner. That doesn't mean they should have when their numbers were higher than ours or that we were in the wrong because we didn't. COVID is a rapidly changing environment because we have been learning as we go. Remember last year when we were wiping down cereal boxes with clorox wipes? Now we know that isn't needed. We have learned and now have a vaccine.

But also all the other districts are pretty much still virtual too. Our cousins who have kids in MCPS (Potomac) upper elementary aren't returning until after spring break. My APS kid is returning next week. Same number of days. FCPS also returning on about the same schedule. APS isn't some sort of outlier in this area.

There are 6 school districts in NOVA. APS, ACPS, FCPS, FCCPS, PW, and LW.
LW has elementary back, and returns middle and high this week.
PW has elementary back and returns middle and high this week.
FCCPS returned all students last week.

FCPS, ACPS, and APS are lagging behind.

OMG - FCCPS RETURNED ONE WEEK EARLIER!!!!!!!!

You people are ridiculous.

Seriously, I can't believe people are still ranting about this- APS has a plan to get all grades back in for a hybrid model in the next 3 weeks- with the first groups starting TOMORROW!!! Chill out!

But is it really opening? My kid is going back hybrid and all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually. It's a joke.

Yes, it’s opening. It’s called hybrid and many school systems are doing it.

Really? We've been complaining all year that virtual isn't appropriate for K-2 students. So suddenly it's appropriate if provided in a classroom? For the record, only one APS elementary school seems to be taking this position.

Does your kid have the option to be in a classroom with a teacher this year?

Stop the hysteria. None of it is perfect. We are dealing with a freaking deadly pandemic here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame APS's piss poor planning and foresight for this. However the numbers here were high. APS wasn't wrong or the only one to remain virtual. Yes, people in Georgia and Kentucky returned sooner. That doesn't mean they should have when their numbers were higher than ours or that we were in the wrong because we didn't. COVID is a rapidly changing environment because we have been learning as we go. Remember last year when we were wiping down cereal boxes with clorox wipes? Now we know that isn't needed. We have learned and now have a vaccine.

But also all the other districts are pretty much still virtual too. Our cousins who have kids in MCPS (Potomac) upper elementary aren't returning until after spring break. My APS kid is returning next week. Same number of days. FCPS also returning on about the same schedule. APS isn't some sort of outlier in this area.

There are 6 school districts in NOVA. APS, ACPS, FCPS, FCCPS, PW, and LW.
LW has elementary back, and returns middle and high this week.
PW has elementary back and returns middle and high this week.
FCCPS returned all students last week.

FCPS, ACPS, and APS are lagging behind.

OMG - FCCPS RETURNED ONE WEEK EARLIER!!!!!!!!

You people are ridiculous.

Seriously, I can't believe people are still ranting about this- APS has a plan to get all grades back in for a hybrid model in the next 3 weeks- with the first groups starting TOMORROW!!! Chill out!

But is it really opening? My kid is going back hybrid and all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually. It's a joke.

Why are you so surprised by this? There is a teacher shortage. The shortage existed BEFORE the pandemic and it is now acerbated BY the pandemic. There have been multiple posts to the same effect for the past year. It is not the school system's fault if you are not paying attention.

The school systems must honor ADA accommodation requests because it is illegal to force them to RTS if they qualify for an ADA accommodation. Not only is it the right thing to do ethically but also legally since the school system must follow the law.

Teachers who qualify for ADA accommodations are ethically and legally entitled to do so. They are allowed to prioritize their own health and safety over your child's education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame APS's piss poor planning and foresight for this. However the numbers here were high. APS wasn't wrong or the only one to remain virtual. Yes, people in Georgia and Kentucky returned sooner. That doesn't mean they should have when their numbers were higher than ours or that we were in the wrong because we didn't. COVID is a rapidly changing environment because we have been learning as we go. Remember last year when we were wiping down cereal boxes with clorox wipes? Now we know that isn't needed. We have learned and now have a vaccine.

But also all the other districts are pretty much still virtual too. Our cousins who have kids in MCPS (Potomac) upper elementary aren't returning until after spring break. My APS kid is returning next week. Same number of days. FCPS also returning on about the same schedule. APS isn't some sort of outlier in this area.

There are 6 school districts in NOVA. APS, ACPS, FCPS, FCCPS, PW, and LW.
LW has elementary back, and returns middle and high this week.
PW has elementary back and returns middle and high this week.
FCCPS returned all students last week.

FCPS, ACPS, and APS are lagging behind.

OMG - FCCPS RETURNED ONE WEEK EARLIER!!!!!!!!

You people are ridiculous.

Seriously, I can't believe people are still ranting about this- APS has a plan to get all grades back in for a hybrid model in the next 3 weeks- with the first groups starting TOMORROW!!! Chill out!

But is it really opening? My kid is going back hybrid and all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually. It's a joke.

Why are you so surprised by this? There is a teacher shortage. The shortage existed BEFORE the pandemic and it is now acerbated BY the pandemic. There have been multiple posts to the same effect for the past year. It is not the school system's fault if you are not paying attention.

The school systems must honor ADA accommodation requests because it is illegal to force them to RTS if they qualify for an ADA accommodation. Not only is it the right thing to do ethically but also legally since the school system must follow the law.

Teachers who qualify for ADA accommodations are ethically and legally entitled to do so. They are allowed to prioritize their own health and safety over your child's education.

This has nothing to do with an ADA request.

[Anonymous]

Pulling this from another thread....

Burbio “data” is wonky but I haven’t found anything better. The hybrid % was actually a little lower & in-person a little higher. This was recent data. Earlier in the school year the % virtual-only was over 50%.



From:
Burbio data "reflects school mode by district, and weighted by student enrollment.":
https://twitter.com/ifihadastick/status/1362627186595926019

https://about.burbio.com/methodology/
"• Burbio assigns a learning mode to a school district based on the most in-person option available to the general student population. Thus if a district offers both traditional and virtual options, the district is categorized as Traditional. "

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pulling this from another thread....

Burbio “data” is wonky but I haven’t found anything better. The hybrid % was actually a little lower & in-person a little higher. This was recent data. Earlier in the school year the % virtual-only was over 50%.



From:
Burbio data "reflects school mode by district, and weighted by student enrollment.":
https://twitter.com/ifihadastick/status/1362627186595926019

https://about.burbio.com/methodology/
"• Burbio assigns a learning mode to a school district based on the most in-person option available to the general student population. Thus if a district offers both traditional and virtual options, the district is categorized as Traditional. "

^^
Again, to be clear that is:
33% have virtual only
25% have hybrid + virtual
42% have in-person + virtual (and maybe hybrid)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame APS's piss poor planning and foresight for this. However the numbers here were high. APS wasn't wrong or the only one to remain virtual. Yes, people in Georgia and Kentucky returned sooner. That doesn't mean they should have when their numbers were higher than ours or that we were in the wrong because we didn't. COVID is a rapidly changing environment because we have been learning as we go. Remember last year when we were wiping down cereal boxes with clorox wipes? Now we know that isn't needed. We have learned and now have a vaccine.

But also all the other districts are pretty much still virtual too. Our cousins who have kids in MCPS (Potomac) upper elementary aren't returning until after spring break. My APS kid is returning next week. Same number of days. FCPS also returning on about the same schedule. APS isn't some sort of outlier in this area.

There are 6 school districts in NOVA. APS, ACPS, FCPS, FCCPS, PW, and LW.
LW has elementary back, and returns middle and high this week.
PW has elementary back and returns middle and high this week.
FCCPS returned all students last week.

FCPS, ACPS, and APS are lagging behind.

OMG - FCCPS RETURNED ONE WEEK EARLIER!!!!!!!!

You people are ridiculous.

Seriously, I can't believe people are still ranting about this- APS has a plan to get all grades back in for a hybrid model in the next 3 weeks- with the first groups starting TOMORROW!!! Chill out!

But is it really opening? My kid is going back hybrid and all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually. It's a joke.

Why are you so surprised by this? There is a teacher shortage. The shortage existed BEFORE the pandemic and it is now acerbated BY the pandemic. There have been multiple posts to the same effect for the past year. It is not the school system's fault if you are not paying attention.

The school systems must honor ADA accommodation requests because it is illegal to force them to RTS if they qualify for an ADA accommodation. Not only is it the right thing to do ethically but also legally since the school system must follow the law.

Teachers who qualify for ADA accommodations are ethically and legally entitled to do so. They are allowed to prioritize their own health and safety over your child's education.

This has nothing to do with an ADA request.

Sigh. Keep up. It has everything to do with the complaint that "all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually." The virtual teachers are the teachers with ADA accommodations. Do you understand now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame APS's piss poor planning and foresight for this. However the numbers here were high. APS wasn't wrong or the only one to remain virtual. Yes, people in Georgia and Kentucky returned sooner. That doesn't mean they should have when their numbers were higher than ours or that we were in the wrong because we didn't. COVID is a rapidly changing environment because we have been learning as we go. Remember last year when we were wiping down cereal boxes with clorox wipes? Now we know that isn't needed. We have learned and now have a vaccine.

But also all the other districts are pretty much still virtual too. Our cousins who have kids in MCPS (Potomac) upper elementary aren't returning until after spring break. My APS kid is returning next week. Same number of days. FCPS also returning on about the same schedule. APS isn't some sort of outlier in this area.

There are 6 school districts in NOVA. APS, ACPS, FCPS, FCCPS, PW, and LW.
LW has elementary back, and returns middle and high this week.
PW has elementary back and returns middle and high this week.
FCCPS returned all students last week.

FCPS, ACPS, and APS are lagging behind.

OMG - FCCPS RETURNED ONE WEEK EARLIER!!!!!!!!

You people are ridiculous.

Seriously, I can't believe people are still ranting about this- APS has a plan to get all grades back in for a hybrid model in the next 3 weeks- with the first groups starting TOMORROW!!! Chill out!

But is it really opening? My kid is going back hybrid and all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually. It's a joke.

Why are you so surprised by this? There is a teacher shortage. The shortage existed BEFORE the pandemic and it is now acerbated BY the pandemic. There have been multiple posts to the same effect for the past year. It is not the school system's fault if you are not paying attention.

The school systems must honor ADA accommodation requests because it is illegal to force them to RTS if they qualify for an ADA accommodation. Not only is it the right thing to do ethically but also legally since the school system must follow the law.

Teachers who qualify for ADA accommodations are ethically and legally entitled to do so. They are allowed to prioritize their own health and safety over your child's education.

This has nothing to do with an ADA request.

Sigh. Keep up. It has everything to do with the complaint that "all but two subjects will still be delivered virtually." The virtual teachers are the teachers with ADA accommodations. Do you understand now?

No, you're flat out wrong. Every single specials class plus departmentalized classes (outside of the one or two taught by your homeroom teacher) will be virtual. It's not ADA related. The principal is only asking homeroom teachers to return and has departmentalized subjects, so only 1-2 classes per day will be taught live. All others will be virtual.