Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!

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Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.

I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.

Do you hear yourself? A compliant populace? We do not live in a communist state.

We live in a barely functional state with zero concern beyond ourselves. Our country was always going to fare worst with this virus. Even in this thread people think losing 3 million people is no big deal. The craziest part is some people still believe in American exceptionalism. We are a joke.

"A barely functional state" that had up until recently 3% unemployment, one of the highest standard of livings in the world, and the largest economy. I'd like to hear what adjective you use forother countries, if this counts as barely functioning to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.

I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.

People don't want to see society destroyed. That's not being selfish. It's not simply "I want to take my beach vacation," I mean sure you hear that, I say things like that too. But that's not the real reason I want to see things reopen. It is because I truly feel that the damage we are doing to the economy is way worse than the number of lives that would be lost otherwise.

The government is to blame for what happened to the economy. They could have implemented UBI, suspended mortgages and rents, provided free healthcare like the ENTIRE rest of the developed world did. The fact we live in a capitalist society that doesn’t value its workers and have a government that doesn’t care to actually help is why it’s so bad for us and why we have to throw in the towel before getting it under control the way other countries did. It’s nearly eradicated in Singapore and New Zealand. The US is just saying lol oh well

Are you seriously trying to claim that Singapore isn't a capitalist country? And these shutdowns are going to devastate economies around the world, capitalist or not.

I’m claiming Singapore’s response was one of a county in which human life is somewhat valued. Our country’s response revealed we do not value human life. Not one thing was done to try to ease the burden of lockdown so we could actually stay home and halt the virus, there’s still no mass testing that makes opening up safer. We will just accept there’s no testing, no vaccine, no government assistance to people and businesses to allow for a true lockdown, we will go back to regular life because there’s no other options and accept many will die. Other countries didn’t have that same fatalistic attitude. We did.

Hyperbolic much? Large unemployment benefits were passed, small business loans, a straight check to many people, etc. etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.

I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.

People don't want to see society destroyed. That's not being selfish. It's not simply "I want to take my beach vacation," I mean sure you hear that, I say things like that too. But that's not the real reason I want to see things reopen. It is because I truly feel that the damage we are doing to the economy is way worse than the number of lives that would be lost otherwise.

The government is to blame for what happened to the economy. They could have implemented UBI, suspended mortgages and rents, provided free healthcare like the ENTIRE rest of the developed world did. The fact we live in a capitalist society that doesn’t value its workers and have a government that doesn’t care to actually help is why it’s so bad for us and why we have to throw in the towel before getting it under control the way other countries did. It’s nearly eradicated in Singapore and New Zealand. The US is just saying lol oh well

Are you seriously trying to claim that Singapore isn't a capitalist country? And these shutdowns are going to devastate economies around the world, capitalist or not.

I’m claiming Singapore’s response was one of a county in which human life is somewhat valued. Our country’s response revealed we do not value human life. Not one thing was done to try to ease the burden of lockdown so we could actually stay home and halt the virus, there’s still no mass testing that makes opening up safer. We will just accept there’s no testing, no vaccine, no government assistance to people and businesses to allow for a true lockdown, we will go back to regular life because there’s no other options and accept many will die. Other countries didn’t have that same fatalistic attitude. We did.

Hyperbolic much? Large unemployment benefits were passed, small business loans, a straight check to many people, etc. etc.

Yeah Ruth’s Chris got a loan. Harvard did too. Very beneficial.

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Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.

I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.

People don't want to see society destroyed. That's not being selfish. It's not simply "I want to take my beach vacation," I mean sure you hear that, I say things like that too. But that's not the real reason I want to see things reopen. It is because I truly feel that the damage we are doing to the economy is way worse than the number of lives that would be lost otherwise.

The government is to blame for what happened to the economy. They could have implemented UBI, suspended mortgages and rents, provided free healthcare like the ENTIRE rest of the developed world did. The fact we live in a capitalist society that doesn’t value its workers and have a government that doesn’t care to actually help is why it’s so bad for us and why we have to throw in the towel before getting it under control the way other countries did. It’s nearly eradicated in Singapore and New Zealand. The US is just saying lol oh well

Are you seriously trying to claim that Singapore isn't a capitalist country? And these shutdowns are going to devastate economies around the world, capitalist or not.

I’m claiming Singapore’s response was one of a county in which human life is somewhat valued. Our country’s response revealed we do not value human life. Not one thing was done to try to ease the burden of lockdown so we could actually stay home and halt the virus, there’s still no mass testing that makes opening up safer. We will just accept there’s no testing, no vaccine, no government assistance to people and businesses to allow for a true lockdown, we will go back to regular life because there’s no other options and accept many will die. Other countries didn’t have that same fatalistic attitude. We did.

Hyperbolic much? Large unemployment benefits were passed, small business loans, a straight check to many people, etc. etc.

Yeah Ruth’s Chris got a loan. Harvard did too. Very beneficial.

Wow you're snarky and predictable. And so did many many small businesses. Hell Harvard returned its loan and even if it hadn't, you realize these companies/organizations also employ tons of people . You dont want them failing, do you?

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Anonymous wrote:As a nurse with INOVA who had been furloughed, this is true. Not only are hospitals not overwhelmed, they are DEAD. ER is dead, whole units are shut down.

I'm going to return to a DISASTER of people who have been forced to put off important medical care. What is going to be dangerous is the hours everyone is going to have to put in when Northam gets his head out of his ass.

Can you elaborate on what kind of disaster you envision?

I'll give you one. My elderly father's doctor's office told him he was fine not to come in for routine monitoring, to include checking INR levels, so he skipped these for 6 weeks or more. He landed in the hospital the other day with such severe bleeding in his colon that he almost died. Do not discount how dangerous skipping routine care is. It landed my father in the hospital for 3 days and contributed greatly to a hastening of his demise.

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Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.

I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.

People don't want to see society destroyed. That's not being selfish. It's not simply "I want to take my beach vacation," I mean sure you hear that, I say things like that too. But that's not the real reason I want to see things reopen. It is because I truly feel that the damage we are doing to the economy is way worse than the number of lives that would be lost otherwise.

The government is to blame for what happened to the economy. They could have implemented UBI, suspended mortgages and rents, provided free healthcare like the ENTIRE rest of the developed world did. The fact we live in a capitalist society that doesn’t value its workers and have a government that doesn’t care to actually help is why it’s so bad for us and why we have to throw in the towel before getting it under control the way other countries did. It’s nearly eradicated in Singapore and New Zealand. The US is just saying lol oh well

Are you seriously trying to claim that Singapore isn't a capitalist country? And these shutdowns are going to devastate economies around the world, capitalist or not.

I’m claiming Singapore’s response was one of a county in which human life is somewhat valued. Our country’s response revealed we do not value human life. Not one thing was done to try to ease the burden of lockdown so we could actually stay home and halt the virus, there’s still no mass testing that makes opening up safer. We will just accept there’s no testing, no vaccine, no government assistance to people and businesses to allow for a true lockdown, we will go back to regular life because there’s no other options and accept many will die. Other countries didn’t have that same fatalistic attitude. We did.

Hyperbolic much? Large unemployment benefits were passed, small business loans, a straight check to many people, etc. etc.

Yeah Ruth’s Chris got a loan. Harvard did too. Very beneficial.

Wow you're snarky and predictable. And so did many many small businesses. Hell Harvard returned its loan and even if it hadn't, you realize these companies/organizations also employ tons of people . You dont want them failing, do you?

Harvard did not take a small business loan - they were awarded money from a Dept. of Education program intended to help universities. That said, they returned it after Trump claimed they took small business money.

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America used to be a country of hard workers and people who could get through tough times and be better for it. Now people can't handle a few weeks at home because "my eyebrows!", "I'm tired of it!"

God help us if we are ever truly tested in a way that requires real sacrifice. We are a bunch of babies. And an embarrassment.

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Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.

I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.

People don't want to see society destroyed. That's not being selfish. It's not simply "I want to take my beach vacation," I mean sure you hear that, I say things like that too. But that's not the real reason I want to see things reopen. It is because I truly feel that the damage we are doing to the economy is way worse than the number of lives that would be lost otherwise.

Self-serving statement. No more, no less.

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Anonymous wrote:America used to be a country of hard workers and people who could get through tough times and be better for it. Now people can't handle a few weeks at home because "my eyebrows!", "I'm tired of it!"

God help us if we are ever truly tested in a way that requires real sacrifice. We are a bunch of babies. And an embarrassment.

People losing their jobs, homes, no food, can’t afford to feed their kids aren’t “real sacrifices”?

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Anonymous wrote:America used to be a country of hard workers and people who could get through tough times and be better for it. Now people can't handle a few weeks at home because "my eyebrows!", "I'm tired of it!"

God help us if we are ever truly tested in a way that requires real sacrifice. We are a bunch of babies. And an embarrassment.

I am the person who posted about eyebrows. Honestly - what is so wrong about someone looking forward to participating in pleasurable aspects of normal life - whether it’s going to the pool, going out to eat, seeing friends, shopping, or GETTING THEIR EYEBROWS DONE. If you read my post, I never said ‘open up immediately, I need my eyebrows done’. I’m not an idiot. But what’s wrong with enjoying things in life? Sorry PP that you like being miserable. I’m tired of these holier than thou types who are probably whining in their mansions while their perfect husband teleworks.

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Anonymous wrote:This may be a minor question, but why are gyms included in the list of places that are reopening? They seem like hotspots to spread the virus - people touching shared equipment, breathing out heavily. It is nice outdoors and people can just exercise there or in their homes. If people want to work with a personal trainer, they could arrange to do so in a park etc. with their own weights.

Because a big Trump donor owns a chain of gyms, and talked to him right before they released the guidelines. hence gyms included in phase 1.

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Anonymous wrote:America used to be a country of hard workers and people who could get through tough times and be better for it. Now people can't handle a few weeks at home because "my eyebrows!", "I'm tired of it!"

God help us if we are ever truly tested in a way that requires real sacrifice. We are a bunch of babies. And an embarrassment.

What a bunch of BS. This has nothing to do with eyebrows it has to do with the 30 percent unemployment rate. Idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:America used to be a country of hard workers and people who could get through tough times and be better for it. Now people can't handle a few weeks at home because "my eyebrows!", "I'm tired of it!"

God help us if we are ever truly tested in a way that requires real sacrifice. We are a bunch of babies. And an embarrassment.

What a bunch of BS. This has nothing to do with eyebrows it has to do with the 30 percent unemployment rate. Idiot.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:This may be a minor question, but why are gyms included in the list of places that are reopening? They seem like hotspots to spread the virus - people touching shared equipment, breathing out heavily. It is nice outdoors and people can just exercise there or in their homes. If people want to work with a personal trainer, they could arrange to do so in a park etc. with their own weights.

Because a big Trump donor owns a chain of gyms, and talked to him right before they released the guidelines. hence gyms included in phase 1.

Give it a freakin rest. There are tons of independently owned yoga and fitness studios. Your hatred of Trump is slowly killing you.


Mental and physical health are essential.

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Anonymous wrote:This may be a minor question, but why are gyms included in the list of places that are reopening? They seem like hotspots to spread the virus - people touching shared equipment, breathing out heavily. It is nice outdoors and people can just exercise there or in their homes. If people want to work with a personal trainer, they could arrange to do so in a park etc. with their own weights.

Because a big Trump donor owns a chain of gyms, and talked to him right before they released the guidelines. hence gyms included in phase 1.

Wtf?!?

-not a trump supporter