Economy is roaring

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In November - 266,000 jobs added. Expected was 180,000

The unemployment rate remained steady during November, while the labor force participation also stayed even at 63.2 percent.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/473327-november-jobs

What real liberals think

Bill Clinton’s Treasury Secretary, Lawrence Summers, admits that he never visited Rust Belt cities devastated by NAFTA. Displaced White workers “weren’t heavily on our radar screen,” he said, noting that the Democratic Party base is a “coalition of cosmopolitan elite and diversity.”

Summers’ “cosmopolitan elite” are highly educated, affluent people who travel the world, live in ethnically diverse cities, and are in constant global communication. For them, the benefits of globalization are myriad, and the downsides invisible. But for those whose idea of the good life is more slow-paced and parochial, global economic and communication networks are a threat to their livelihoods, their way of life, and their communities, which have been ravaged by foreclosures, offshoring, and automation.

https://www.yesmagazine.org/democracy/2019/12/16/book-politics-divide/

This is absurd. No one would ever be the party of "cosmopolitan elite" and "diversity". Why? Because that isn't enough people to win elections!!!!! "Cosmoplotan elite" = 1-5% of the country. "Diversity" = non-white people = <25% of the U.S.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Golly gee. So democrats aren’t really helping minorities!?!?
Well then I guess they should all go vote for Trump. /s

They are all for helping minorities as long as it does not impact the lifestyle of the elite who are the power base of the Democrats.

Obama ran as a change agent and then essentially co-opted the Goldman Sachs elite to run his economic policy - GWB did not run as a change agent and he also co-opted Goldman Sachs senior management to run his economic policy.

Why do you think that Sanders and Warren are anathema to the Democratic establishment - especially Sanders? They are not beholden to the Wall Street crowd and that upsets the established order.

The base of the Democrats is not the "elite." That isn't possible. 31% of the people in the U.S. identify as Democrat. By definition, 31% of the U.S. can't be elite. Either your definition of "base" is wrong, or your definition of "elite" is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, economy is roaring for minimal wage and people who work live on the streets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHDkALRz5Rk

Stop insisting the government create money out of thin air at a dizzying rate to pay for social programs. The problem is not that things are getting too expensive. The problem is endless socialism is devaluing the US dollar.

Stop the endless tax cuts. The vast majority of voters don't want them and they are bankrupting our nation.

When you tax too much, money moves overseas, especially in a global economy. The problem isn't how much tax, the problem is how much is promised to get votes and that happens on both sides of the aisle.

Don't "both sides" this. Republicans passed the massive tax cut in 2017 without any spending cuts. They are the side making this worse.

Well then, what spending cuts did democrats propose in 2017?

None. But they didn't propose spending *increases* PLUS *tax cuts* as the Republicans did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It costs 12.5 BILLION to run the federal government every day, 365 days a year. That's a sink cost based on past promises. So when someone tells you the wall will cost 5 BILLION, tell them that will run the federal government for ten hours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_wall

If someone tells you the wall will cost 5 billion, then they are lying.

According to experts and analyses, the actual cost to construct a wall along the remaining 1,300 miles (2,100 km) of the border could be as high as $20 million per mile ($12.5 million/km), with a total cost of up to $45 billion, with the cost of private land acquisitions and fence maintenance pushing up the total cost further.[31] Maintenance of the wall could cost up to $750 million a year, and if the Border Patrol agents were to patrol the wall, additional funds would have to be expended.

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Anonymous wrote:In November - 266,000 jobs added. Expected was 180,000

The unemployment rate remained steady during November, while the labor force participation also stayed even at 63.2 percent.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/473327-november-jobs

What real liberals think

Bill Clinton’s Treasury Secretary, Lawrence Summers, admits that he never visited Rust Belt cities devastated by NAFTA. Displaced White workers “weren’t heavily on our radar screen,” he said, noting that the Democratic Party base is a “coalition of cosmopolitan elite and diversity.”

Summers’ “cosmopolitan elite” are highly educated, affluent people who travel the world, live in ethnically diverse cities, and are in constant global communication. For them, the benefits of globalization are myriad, and the downsides invisible. But for those whose idea of the good life is more slow-paced and parochial, global economic and communication networks are a threat to their livelihoods, their way of life, and their communities, which have been ravaged by foreclosures, offshoring, and automation.

https://www.yesmagazine.org/democracy/2019/12/16/book-politics-divide/

This is absurd. No one would ever be the party of "cosmopolitan elite" and "diversity". Why? Because that isn't enough people to win elections!!!!! "Cosmoplotan elite" = 1-5% of the country. "Diversity" = non-white people = <25% of the U.S.

Liberal professionals look upon nationalism with unmitigated horror, because all they see is the racist aspect. What they’re missing is how nationalism is a reaction to the detrimental impacts of globalization. Two-thirds of working-class Whites and three- quarters of Trump primary voters see trade deals as harmful to American workers, and there’s plenty of evidence that they’re right (and that foreign laborers are being exploited in the bargain as well). When Trump tells them he will bring back their jobs by shredding unpopular trade and climate deals, that sounds pretty damn good.

After NAFTA passed, the president of the electrical workers’ union vowed revenge: “Clinton screwed us and we won’t forget it.” Twenty-four years and a few dozen Trump anti-NAFTA jeremiads later, rank-and-file electrical union members welcomed Trump to their Philadelphia job site. Minnesota iron and steel workers, too, say they’ve never forgiven President Clinton for NAFTA and that Trump won them over with his outspoken commitment to killing the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Trade deals, they say, are their No. 1 issue and the reason the once-solidly blue North Star state is turning red.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In November - 266,000 jobs added. Expected was 180,000

The unemployment rate remained steady during November, while the labor force participation also stayed even at 63.2 percent.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/473327-november-jobs

What real liberals think

Bill Clinton’s Treasury Secretary, Lawrence Summers, admits that he never visited Rust Belt cities devastated by NAFTA. Displaced White workers “weren’t heavily on our radar screen,” he said, noting that the Democratic Party base is a “coalition of cosmopolitan elite and diversity.”

Summers’ “cosmopolitan elite” are highly educated, affluent people who travel the world, live in ethnically diverse cities, and are in constant global communication. For them, the benefits of globalization are myriad, and the downsides invisible. But for those whose idea of the good life is more slow-paced and parochial, global economic and communication networks are a threat to their livelihoods, their way of life, and their communities, which have been ravaged by foreclosures, offshoring, and automation.

https://www.yesmagazine.org/democracy/2019/12/16/book-politics-divide/

This is absurd. No one would ever be the party of "cosmopolitan elite" and "diversity". Why? Because that isn't enough people to win elections!!!!! "Cosmoplotan elite" = 1-5% of the country. "Diversity" = non-white people = <25% of the U.S.

Liberal professionals look upon nationalism with unmitigated horror, because all they see is the racist aspect. What they’re missing is how nationalism is a reaction to the detrimental impacts of globalization. Two-thirds of working-class Whites and three- quarters of Trump primary voters see trade deals as harmful to American workers, and there’s plenty of evidence that they’re right (and that foreign laborers are being exploited in the bargain as well). When Trump tells them he will bring back their jobs by shredding unpopular trade and climate deals, that sounds pretty damn good.

After NAFTA passed, the president of the electrical workers’ union vowed revenge: “Clinton screwed us and we won’t forget it.” Twenty-four years and a few dozen Trump anti-NAFTA jeremiads later, rank-and-file electrical union members welcomed Trump to their Philadelphia job site. Minnesota iron and steel workers, too, say they’ve never forgiven President Clinton for NAFTA and that Trump won them over with his outspoken commitment to killing the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Trade deals, they say, are their No. 1 issue and the reason the once-solidly blue North Star state is turning red.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/10/democrats-trumps-trade-deal-080719
How's that working out for them?

[Anonymous]

Patriotism is not the same as nationalism.

For Trump, Nationalism is the same as Hitler's Nationalism.

Neither are "American"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cost-of-tariffs-trade-war-162712258.html

Since the trade war commenced in February 2018, Americans have paid an additional $42 billion, according to a new analysis from Tariffs Hurt the Heartland (THH). And just in October 2019, the trade war cost Americans $7.2 billion through tariffs, which is a $1 billion increase from October 2018.

Maybe true. Would you continue on the path with China we had over the last 25+ years? I wouldn't.

Are you the type of person that believes in smiling while you are getting screwed.

DO YOU SUBSCRIBE TO THE BELIEF IN MANAGED DECLINE?

I don't. Have a modern day democrat in power and we get walked all over.

You bitch about Russia....and yet,whose watch did that occur on? Answer: the guy with the Russian Reset Button who said he would have more flexibility after the election. Explain that one.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, economy is roaring for minimal wage and people who work live on the streets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHDkALRz5Rk

Stop insisting the government create money out of thin air at a dizzying rate to pay for social programs. The problem is not that things are getting too expensive. The problem is endless socialism is devaluing the US dollar.

Stop the endless tax cuts. The vast majority of voters don't want them and they are bankrupting our nation.

When you tax too much, money moves overseas, especially in a global economy. The problem isn't how much tax, the problem is how much is promised to get votes and that happens on both sides of the aisle.

Don't "both sides" this. Republicans passed the massive tax cut in 2017 without any spending cuts. They are the side making this worse.

Well then, what spending cuts did democrats propose in 2017?

None. But they didn't propose spending *increases* PLUS *tax cuts* as the Republicans did.

They certainly did propose spending increases. In fact, they demanded it. Democrats demanded dollar for dollar increases in social spending for every dollar spent on DoD spending, which was increased by Trump to raise military pay. Have you been asleep on policy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cost-of-tariffs-trade-war-162712258.html

Since the trade war commenced in February 2018, Americans have paid an additional $42 billion, according to a new analysis from Tariffs Hurt the Heartland (THH). And just in October 2019, the trade war cost Americans $7.2 billion through tariffs, which is a $1 billion increase from October 2018.

Maybe true. Would you continue on the path with China we had over the last 25+ years? I wouldn't.

Are you the type of person that believes in smiling while you are getting screwed.

DO YOU SUBSCRIBE TO THE BELIEF IN MANAGED DECLINE?

I don't. Have a modern day democrat in power and we get walked all over.

You bitch about Russia....and yet,whose watch did that occur on? Answer: the guy with the Russian Reset Button who said he would have more flexibility after the election. Explain that one.

Obama wasn’t Putin’s b*tch while Trump is. Explain that one.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, economy is roaring for minimal wage and people who work live on the streets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHDkALRz5Rk

Stop insisting the government create money out of thin air at a dizzying rate to pay for social programs. The problem is not that things are getting too expensive. The problem is endless socialism is devaluing the US dollar.

Stop the endless tax cuts. The vast majority of voters don't want them and they are bankrupting our nation.

When you tax too much, money moves overseas, especially in a global economy. The problem isn't how much tax, the problem is how much is promised to get votes and that happens on both sides of the aisle.

Don't "both sides" this. Republicans passed the massive tax cut in 2017 without any spending cuts. They are the side making this worse.

Well then, what spending cuts did democrats propose in 2017?

None. But they didn't propose spending *increases* PLUS *tax cuts* as the Republicans did.

They certainly did propose spending increases. In fact, they demanded it. Democrats demanded dollar for dollar increases in social spending for every dollar spent on DoD spending, which was increased by Trump to raise military pay. Have you been asleep on policy?

Democrats: proposed spending increases.
Republicans: proposed spending increases AND passed huge tax cuts.

[Anonymous]

Democrats pass taxes increases on everyone except themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cost-of-tariffs-trade-war-162712258.html

Since the trade war commenced in February 2018, Americans have paid an additional $42 billion, according to a new analysis from Tariffs Hurt the Heartland (THH). And just in October 2019, the trade war cost Americans $7.2 billion through tariffs, which is a $1 billion increase from October 2018.

Maybe true. Would you continue on the path with China we had over the last 25+ years? I wouldn't.

Are you the type of person that believes in smiling while you are getting screwed.

DO YOU SUBSCRIBE TO THE BELIEF IN MANAGED DECLINE?

I don't. Have a modern day democrat in power and we get walked all over.

You bitch about Russia....and yet,whose watch did that occur on? Answer: the guy with the Russian Reset Button who said he would have more flexibility after the election. Explain that one.

What has Trump done to fix China issue? He started a trade war which has, so far, led to essentially no resolution on trade deficits or IP theft, but has hurt American farmers, which has led to a massive government subsidy, or as Republicans like to call it, socialism. It has also hurt the pocketbooks of the poorest in our countries whose budgets are more sensitive to cost increases.

He has props for *trying* but if he were serious about a deal, why has he alienated all of our allies. Other countries were really our only bargaining chips. The truth is China is holding all the cards now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-12-17/u-s-china-trade-deal-will-be-a-short-truce-not-a-lasting-peace

Trump also did the opposite of exploiting the chance to cement alliances in Asia, not just in canceling the Trans-Pacific Partnership but also in launching the trade war against China, which has wound up hurting American farmers and manufacturers at least as much as it’s hurt China. (A tougher economic policy against China was justified, especially in fighting intellectual property theft, but wholesale tariffs are misguided; Trump seems unaware of the interlaced supply chain, in which many U.S. products contain Chinese parts.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats pass taxes increases on everyone except themselves.

That is an interesting theory. Do you have any data, any data at all, to support it?

[Anonymous]

What would you do about China. I've never seen the democrat party be anything other than very accommodating to China while they steal left and right. Convince me otherwise.